Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

ArthurDayne

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Well even Anders Tegnell seems to have 'evolved' his thinking and his keep the schools open to increase infections notion.



It's a great pity the right wing supporters of 'herd immunity by infection' brigade are not able to have the same 'road to Damascus' conversion as Dr Tegnell !

Perhaps his change of mind is due to the shocking increase in daily cases in Sweden recently, caused by his peculiar ideas.

Or maybe the media you were reading has simply been misrepresenting the Swedish strategy all along as herd immunity. The term may have been used in shorthand in various communications, but it is clear that Sweden never actually pursued herd immunity because their strategy never gave the message “ok let everyone get it” — it gave the message that the old and vulnerable should be shielded. That is not a herd immunity strategy. The Swedes instead banked on a lite version of herd immunity, whereby the less-at-risk population would be exposed to the virus thus minimising their likelihood of spreading the virus to vulnerable people over a long period of time.

And the fact that you mention “right wing” is indicative of another huge problem which, to me, is contaminating the argument — the desire to transpose everything into Left vs Right. I’m a left leaning guy myself, and I largely think the Swedish is one we should look to emulate. Just because a lot of right leaning people also think that doesn’t necessarily mean that left leaning people are compelled to believe the opposite.

BringBackMick

322

Eod100

Relatively good figures here:

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1323683947612721155

CalamariFritti

Open the pubs :eek:

vienne86

96 in Dublin.

Jim_Hodge

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1323684420126154753

Louth slowly and steady creeping up the table.

landofthetree

Level 3 worked

Psychiatric Patrick

How long does it usually take to get a call back about a COVID test appointment?

Siblings thought the rules didn’t apply to them and now they are paying the price. Very little chance my mother was exposed but GP wants her to get tested anyway.

manofwisdom

BringBackMick wrote: »

322

more like the swab count for a change.

Icyseanfitz

These daily numbers are all over the shop at this stage, what's going on

niallo27

Eod100 wrote: »

Relatively good figures here:

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1323683947612721155

Relatively good figures, they are ****ing brilliant. We had over a 1000 last week, if someone said we would be down to 300 two weeks ago you would have said you were bonkers.

manofwisdom

296 in hospital as of 2pm today.

is_that_so

296 in hospital & 42 in ICU is also good news

bazermc

Christmas is back on baby!!!!

Ficheall

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Scientists are leaning towards long term immunity.
No antibodies means literally nothing.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/10/studies-show-long-term-covid-19-immune-response

Many months = Long term?

Eod100

niallo27 wrote: »

Relatively good figures, they are ****ing brilliant. We had over a 1000 last week, if someone said we would be down to 300 two weeks ago you would have said you were bonkers.

It's very good in fairness. Great to see it go down even further over next 3 weeks or so.

branie2

322 cases - definitely going in the right direction

Widdensushi

Ficheall wrote: »

Many months = Long term?

Without a time machine it's not possible to prove it longer yet.

blowitupref

The lowest daily reported case number since September 26th

thebaz

Eod100 wrote: »

It's very good in fairness. Great to see it go down even further over next 3 weeks or so.

Isn't Tuesday the day figures are usually very high , 2 days figures due to weekend ??

Great to see figures come down so rapidly.

Spanish Eyes

I don't know what to think now. Dublin at 96? I know there can be a lag over a weekend but it was looking very grim yesterday. I am sure those of you who know much more than I do can assure me that this is not an outlier?

What a flipping roller coaster.

As for Christmas being back on, well yes for family visits perhaps. I doubt socialising in pubs/restaurants will be in the mix much especially indoors, but sure what do I know.

redunited

Eod100 wrote: »

Relatively good figures here:

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1323683947612721155

KrustyUCC

322 fantastic to see

Does prob mean a backlog to be added over the next few days

Pete_Cavan

With 24 denotifications today, that makes 49 for November so far. By my calculations we have now passed 500 denotifications in total, there were 175 denotifications in October so rate of denotifications is increasing. These are nearly more interesting than the case numbers at this stage.

Seamai

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

These daily numbers are all over the shop at this stage, what's going on

Well yesterday was a blip due to a backlog, had they not been included the figure would have been about 400 so there's quite a definite downward pattern over the last 10 days or so.

KrustyUCC

Pete_Cavan wrote: »

With 24 denotifications today, that makes 49 for November so far. By my calculations we have now passed 500 denotifications in total, there were 175 denotifications in October so rate of denotifications is increasing.

Hmmm interesting thanks

KrustyUCC

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

As for Christmas being back on, well yes for family visits perhaps. I doubt socialising in pubs/restaurants will be in the mix much especially indoors, but sure what do I know.

I think you'll be right there

Ficheall

Widdensushi wrote: »

Without a time machine it's not possible to prove it longer yet.

In the same vein, it's also a bit early to be early to be predicting long-term immunity.

thebaz

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

As for Christmas being back on, well yes for family visits perhaps. I doubt socialising in pubs/restaurants will be in the mix much especially indoors, but sure what do I know.

I am very mush a lockdown sceptic, only for real emergencys , but as figures seam to be going in right direction , think it would be best to have a really controlled Christmas, hate to see all the sacrifises by so many people , given up for a massive jolly - think the right thing to do would be to have a very quiet Spiritual Chistmas, rather than a big celtic Tiger drunken party.

is_that_so

Ficheall wrote: »

In the same vein, it's also a bit early to be early to be predicting long-term immunity.

I don't think it's posters specifically doing that, they are taking their cues from studies, some of which refer to "long term" effects.