Nations cup November 2020 GENERAL THREAD

thebaz

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

You just keep repeating the word flair?
What do you mean by flair?
Repeating the word over and over means nothing. What way do you want the team to play and how would you select a team to play in the manner you want.

Ive already explained what flair is - watch Fiji play - found the rugby played this autumn unenjoyable , not the game I grew up loving - if you enjoyed - good for you.

Bridge93

Italy giving Wales a real go here. 18-17 up after 50 mins

The Lost Sheep

thebaz wrote: »

Ive already explained what flair is - watch Fiji play - found the rugby played this autumn unenjoyable , not the game I grew up loving - if you enjoyed - good for you.

Their culture is completely different. They also havent won much. The sport is completely different to the past because its a professional sport now. Of course its not going to be as free. You still have not showed how you want the team to play. Just saying watch fiji play isnt that.

The Lost Sheep

thebaz wrote: »

Ive already explained what flair is - watch Fiji play - found the rugby played this autumn unenjoyable , not the game I grew up loving - if you enjoyed - good for you.

Their culture is completely different. They also havent won much. The sport is completely different to the past because its a professional sport now. Of course its not going to be as free. You still have not showed how you want the team to play. Just saying watch fiji play isnt that.

thebaz

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Their culture is completely different. They also havent won much.

an Olympic gold medal is pretty good - admittly 7s -

hahashake

I don't think the opinion that some of the rugby recently has been turgid is unpopular, plenty of journalists and former players have been writing about it. The lack of spectators and less meaningful competitions doesn't help. That being said, there have still been moments of brilliance.

sydthebeat

hahashake wrote: »

I don't think the opinion that some of the rugby recently has been turgid is unpopular, plenty of journalists and former players have been writing about it. The lack of spectators and less meaningful competitions doesn't help. That being said, there have still been moments of brilliance.

Comparing Ireland v Georgia to the Maori v moana pasifika game and you think it was two completely different sports they were playing.

A lot of it is basic skillset and risk rewarding mindset versus poor basics and risk averse mindset.

PCros

I have Prime but was wondering is there a way to view the UK site so I can watch the England/France game?

Alternatively are there any stream sites?

Akrasia

Is there actually any legal way to watch this game from Ireland?

Will Prime make it available for Irish viewers given that they're not stepping on any Irish broadcaster's rights?

It's pretty effin ridiculous that the final of an international rugby competition is so difficult to watch from one of the participating countries

Jump_In_Jack

PCros wrote: »

I have Prime but was wondering is there a way to view the UK site so I can watch the England/France game?

Alternatively are there any stream sites?

It’ll be on premier sports 1 now in ROI, if you weren’t aware.

PCros

Jump_In_Jack wrote: »

It’ll be on premier sports 1 now in ROI, if you weren’t aware.

Thats a full subscription though?

I could have sworn someone on here managed to view Prime via UK setup.

Jump_In_Jack

PCros wrote: »

Thats a full subscription though?

I could have sworn someone on here managed to view via UK setup.

I think you could get a one month subscription to NowTV, but it wouldn’t be worth it now for 1 game, wasn’t too bad if you got the whole AN matches.

There’ll probably be a free stream on some dodgy websites as usual.

Edit: you can get a €10 day pass on NowTV for Premier Sports
https://www.nowtv.com/ie/sports-overview#ib-section-section-6

Utah_Saint

I barely recognise any of that France team. Fair play for giving lesser capped players a go in a "final"

adam240610

These commentators are annoying as hell talking utter crap

Utah_Saint

This french team look good (whoever they are)

pickarooney

Utah_Saint wrote: »

I barely recognise any of that France team. Fair play for giving lesser capped players a go in a "final"

No choice, they agreed with the league to only play any player a max of 3 games.

Lots of u20 world champs in there

swiwi_

France must be a good bet for RWC 2023. Home soil plus a lot of good young players.

swiwi_

pickarooney wrote: »

No choice, they agreed with the league to only play any player a max of 3 games.

Lots of u20 world champs in there

Is that number 8 who was awesome at U20 level making any progress??

razorblunt

swiwi_ wrote: »

France must be a good bet for RWC 2023. Home soil plus a lot of good young players.

That’s what they want us to think...

conor678

France are playing very well. England don't look to have a plan b. As Kearney said the other week this English team aren't to be feared, st and up to the physically and a bit of smarts then they're beatable.

Jailibert looks a very good player

pickarooney

swiwi_ wrote: »

Is that number 8 who was awesome at U20 level making any progress??

Jordan Joseph? In a battle for first choice at Racing. Claassen will surely retire soon and JJ just signed a new contract.

conor678

Joespeh, not making big progress as far as I am aware. Not sure if still playing for racing but not made much progress. Think he was just an animal from underage and might struggle with the bigger men in the professional game

pickarooney

I'd take any of the four French hookers.

awec

That’s some of the best defence I’ve ever seen. Amazing.

Bridge93

That was extraordinary

Utah_Saint

awec wrote: »

That’s some of the best defence I’ve ever seen. Amazing.

Unbelievable. Making England look very one dimensional

swiwi_

Very impressive from the baby French side so far.

Clegg

That was some of the best goalline defending I've seen in years. Doubly so because it was against a mammoth English pack.

UAEguy2020

England are suffering the same problem they had face prior to 2019, their game plan totally backfired when they are outmuscled. The difference between 2018 and 2019 is they got a back row in that can match back rows which I think helped as it stopped less physical teams getting an advantage at the breakdown and finding away around the physicallity, but you’ve seen against France and SA that when they are matched physically the outcomes the same.

razorblunt

Excellent stand by France.
Bad 2 mins for Genge and his shîte head.

UAEguy2020

Utah_Saint wrote: »

Unbelievable. Making England look very one dimensional

Because they are one dimensional, they are have no answer when you physically stand up to them.

Dog Botherer

i hope this clarifies why France can blood so many new players while we capped comparatively few. their young talent is insane. if Ireland sent out a comparative team in Twickenham they’d put 50 on us.

awec

Dog Botherer wrote: »

i hope this clarifies why France can blood so many new players while we capped comparatively few. their young talent is insane. if Ireland sent out a comparative team in Twickenham they’d put 50 on us.

This France team would likely beat us.

Dog Botherer

awec wrote: »

This France team would likely beat us.

don’t disagree. we’re going to have to get used to losing to france by 15-20 points.

conor678

Hoping France keep the pressure on for the second half. Unfortunately I think they'll get beat in the end

conor678

conor678 wrote: »

France are playing very well. England don't look to have a plan b. As Kearney said the other week this English team aren't to be feared, st and up to the physically and a bit of smarts then they're beatable.

Jailibert looks a very good player

not a bad backup for N'tamack

Carbonel is handy too

3 really good young 10's (22 or younger) all at international standard.

Clegg

Farrell is having a meltdown off the tee

MaddChris

Thought the days of infinite kick tennis were behind us

Bridge93

England are toxic to watch. Such a brilliant side playing such turgid crap. Press really not impressed with it

UAEguy2020

England look totally rattled, the Farrell miss kick is telling. England need a big break here.

Utah_Saint

Watching this game and seeing french players stopping English pack dead. It can't be size/weight of French players. Don't look bigger than Irish equivalents (except for the French tighthead)

griffinlee

It's great to see England not knowing what to do.

I really hope France can hold on.

UAEguy2020

Utah_Saint wrote: »

Watching this game and seeing french players stopping English pack dead. It can't be size/weight of French players. Don't look bigger than Irish equivalents (except for the French tighthead)

Because we are really soft when we play England


It also has to be said that the English players are like men possessed when they play Ireland but today they look like what Ireland look like when they play England.

UAEguy2020

It goes to show that when England cant dominate you physically they really run out of idea's this like a repeat of the RWC final.

That pen could be it, I cant see them winning without scoring a try.

RugbyLover123

That’s a joke of an advantage

swiwi_

Allons les enfants de la garderie.

Utah_Saint

England knocked that on

fitz

Utah_Saint wrote: »

England knocked that on

Blatantly.

UAEguy2020

You would think France were the experienced team that had played a RWC final last year the way this game has gone, no composure whatsoever and when composure was needed there is only one team that has shown it and it aint England!

Bridge93

How was that knock on not given