Nations cup November 2020 GENERAL THREAD

Paul Weller

Surely Farrell was taken out of it as Stuart broke through?

clsmooth

Ireland’s Call is usually terrible at World Cups but usually good at home. Not sure what happened today mind you. Too many weird poppy versions. Just keep it basic and folky. Christy Moore on an acoustic would do it.

Kraftwerk

Interesting that we're seeing the same forced kicking game as we seen at the start of the England game.

Kraftwerk

Nicely taken try by Burns

theVersatile

Beirne with a couple lovely dummy lines there - lovely from Farrell as well. McCloskey making good headway

Paul Weller

Chris "Sexy Hands" Farrell

clsmooth

Whose the Irish bloke commentating on CH4? Eoin Reddan?

mfceiling

clsmooth wrote: »

Whose the Irish bloke commentating on CH4? Eoin Reddan?

Jerry Flannery

DJIMI TRARORE

Super individual try

ScrubsfanChris

Stockdale done again. He's hopeless back there.

eigrod

Great try

theVersatile

ScrubsfanChris wrote: »

Stockdale done again. He's hopeless back there.

2 v 1 with Burns hunting on the inside, Stockdale made the right call.

swiwi_

That is a nice try

Digifriendly

Good score by Georgians.

bennyl10

Stockdale is so far from a test level 15

Hopeless Is being polite

Pudsy33

theVersatile wrote: »

2 v 1 with Burns hunting on the inside, Stockdale made the right call.

No way, you make the hit and force that pass.

swiwi_

Stocktake is a liability at 15 I must say. All at sea in defence. Take your man and rely on your teammates.

Ectoplasm

So not a fan of Stockdale in defense. Not his fault per se but if there is a decision to be made he seems to consistently make the wrong one. Maybe recency bias tbf.

ScrubsfanChris

theVersatile wrote: »

2 v 1 with Burns hunting on the inside, Stockdale made the right call.

Maybe...
Seeing it again, poor tackle attempt from Burns

Wouldnt blame Stockdale there, Burns missed the tackle and Stockdale covered the support.

Clegg

Beirne and Stander don't come out of that looking good. We're sold the dummy and let the Georgian through.

touts

Stockdale should have taken the man. He is simply not up to the required level at Full Back.

awec

gilberto_eire wrote: »

Wouldnt blame Stockdale there, Burns missed the tackle and Stockdale covered the support.

Burns?

Beirne you mean

clsmooth

ScrubsfanChris wrote: »

Stockdale done again. He's hopeless back there.

bennyl10 wrote: »

Stockdale is so far from a test level 15

Hopeless Is being polite

He’s made plenty of defensive mistakes in the past but that wasn’t one of them. Great try.

razorblunt

Stockdale really had to take the man.

Brilliant try none the less.

awec

Stockdale was pure crap, but problem started cause Beirne doesn’t have the mobility to play flanker.

ScrubsfanChris

Simple pass to Earls but kicks instead.....

He shouldn't have kicked that, 2v1 on there, only kick if it's a 1v1.

theVersatile

awec wrote: »

Burns?

Beirne you mean

Both. Beirne missed the inside ball, Burns got stepped when Stockdale drifted to take the outside man.

touts

There we go. 5 minutes that perfectly show why Stockdale is a wing and NOT a full back.

theVersatile

Clegg wrote: »

Beirne and Stander don't come out of that looking good. We're sold the dummy and let the Georgian through.

Beirne more than CJ I'd say. CJs read was fine, Beirne was shallow on the hunt on the inside.

Interesting move there switching to Beirne on the wing just there.

Niallof9

Awful

Kraftwerk

touts wrote: »

There we go. 5 minutes that perfectly show why Stockdale is a wing and NOT a full back.

Wasn't particularly good for a winger either. Stander blocked the cover tackle then Stockdale needlessly boots away possession.

Kraftwerk

Brutal from Stander. Too busy offside arguing with the ref to defend.

theVersatile

Brilliant from McCloskey - Murray playing quickly there too

fitz

Laws experts: how is that not penalty after the Georgian picks the ball back up and rejoins the maul?

theVersatile

Kraftwerk wrote: »

Brutal from Stander. Too busy offside arguing with the ref to defend.

1. CJ was right - the ball was dropped so the maul was over - open play (see Murray v Toulon)

2. CJ didn't leave that gap

fitz wrote: »

Laws experts: how is that not penalty after the Georgian picks the ball back up and rejoins the maul?

Be interesting to see how other refs would've given it. Maybe a scrum for accidental offside?

Paul Weller

Stockdale seems intent on trying to run Earls' lines for him

irishbucsfan

fitz wrote: »

Laws experts: how is that not penalty after the Georgian picks the ball back up and rejoins the maul?

Can only assume the referee didn't see the ball go to the deck

clsmooth

Niallof9 wrote: »

Awful

Niallof9 wrote: »

nobody can defend this selection. nobody. Doris needed another run at 8. Porter is being flogged. Healy on the bench. Murray at 9. lack of new caps. Keenan over Daly. I'd go as far to suggest this is the worst its ever been. It's a nadir for Irish rugby and i probably won't watch this. This team will beat Georgia by about 50 points and come the 6 nations we will be no better for it.France have eleven debutants in their squad to play Italy. A wasted opportunity and i have no idea what Farrell is doing. Should have been shown the door after Japan or kept on as defensive coach, cause he isn't the answer. **** me i'm raging. i was hoping i'd be wrong.

Kraftwerk

theVersatile wrote: »

1. CJ was right - the ball was dropped so the maul was over - open play (see Murray v Toulon)

2. CJ didn't leave that gap

He was right to stand offside arguing with the ref instead of getting back into the defensive line? No he wasn't. Amateur stuff.

theVersatile

Kraftwerk wrote: »

He was right to stand offside arguing with the ref instead of getting back into the defensive line? No he wasn't. Amateur stuff.

If he didn't go offside, he'd have either been still in the maul or rejoined the maul from the back. Either way he didn't leave the gap.

Also we've already established he wasn't offside

UAEguy2020

All the space in the back line with a pen advantage and Murray takes it directly into contact. Maybe instead of bigger players we really need players with a brain.

irishbucsfan

Kraftwerk wrote: »

He was right to stand offside arguing with the ref instead of getting back into the defensive line? No he wasn't. Amateur stuff.

Stander can't read the referee's mind and know that he would make that mistake

This is totally irrelevant. If there had been a try there it would have been called back anyway.

theVersatile

UAEguy2020 wrote: »

All the space in the back line with a pen advantage and Murray takes it directly into contact. Maybe instead of bigger players we really need players with a brain.

"Murray doesn't snipe enough anymore"

*Murray snipes*

"WHY IS MURRAY SNIPING?!?!"

FWIW: I agree it was the wrong decision from Murray, but still. He tried something. Didn't work - back for the pen - no harm.

Kraftwerk

theVersatile wrote: »

If he didn't go offside, he'd have either been still in the maul or rejoined the maul from the back. Either way he didn't leave the gap.

Also we've already established he wasn't offside

Ref told him to get out and play on so he was offside and decided to argue with with the ref while play continued behind him.

Doesn't matter how right anyone think he was about the maul being over you don't turn your back on play to argue with the ref in your own 22.

fitz

theVersatile wrote: »

Maybe a scrum for accidental offside?

Accidental offside is exactly what I was thinking, forgot that wasn't a full penalty any more.

Kraftwerk

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Stander can't read the referee's mind and know that he would make that mistake

This is totally irrelevant. If there had been a try there it would have been called back anyway.

Read the refs mind? The ref told him to get out. So stander stopped to argue with him instead of getting back into the defensive line.

clsmooth

That’s a beautiful pass from Stockdale

Pudsy33

Might be forward