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US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

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  • #4472
    Akabusi
    Registered Users Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    VinLieger wrote: »
    He does to block the SC challenge on mail in votes

    But that is what they are counting in AZ as well.


  • #4473
    EltonJohn69
    Registered Users Posts: 4,465 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    If trump is watching Fox News he won’t like what they are seeing... they know it’s over


  • #4474
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,831 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    VinLieger wrote: »
    He does to block the SC challenge on mail in votes

    But Biden is already winning without those.

    Even if they toss the "late arrivals" Biden still leads.

    Those late ones will be the very last block to be counted.


  • #4475
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,216 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    But Biden is already winning without those.

    Even if they toss the "late arrivals" Biden still leads.

    Those late ones will be the very last block to be counted.


    Ohh really? I thought we were in that block now, that puts some fears to rest then


  • #4476
    letowski
    Registered Users Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭letowski


    I think we are getting another Maricopa vote dump at 5pm today (10am MST)


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  • #4477
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,831 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    EltonJohn69 wrote: »
    If trump is watching Fox News he won’t like what they are seeing... they know it’s over

    This article from Jonathan Swann is instructive and explains why Trump et al are so pissed off with Fox.

    If they call PA , it's likely game over for Trump in terms of support.
    A Trump campaign official said the internal view was that it's essential to keep the race "optically" alive, and that if Fox were to call it, it would severely harm their efforts to support President Trump's (false) claims that he'd already won.

    There's also this quote which sums up the "Best People" angle
    A senior administration official said: "When Bush had this issue they tapped arguably the pre-eminent statesman of his generation, James Baker, to spearhead their legal and PR efforts, to great effect.... We rolled out Rudy Giuliani, Corey Lewandowski and Pam Bondi. You can draw your own conclusions."


  • #4478
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,216 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Is there anything left to come in from Georgia? the maps are all saying 99%


  • #4479
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,931 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1324690495457517570?s=20

    What an interesting but welcome development!!!

    I look forward to it!


  • #4480
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,955 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    I'm just waiting for him to shill VPNs for circumventing IP blocking.


  • #4481
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,831 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Ohh really? I thought we were in that block now, that puts some fears to rest then

    Yes - They are being kept separate.

    I think they may not even start to count them until the deadline is up - 5pm this evening local time I think it was?


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  • #4482
    Akabusi
    Registered Users Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    Just looking at John King's map, what's that grey Island of the coast of California? Is it Cuba?


  • #4483
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,931 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    One more, maybe last, contender for "there's always a tweet"?

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/266031768728109056?s=20


  • #4484
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Akabusi wrote: »
    Just looking at John King's map, what's that grey Island of the coast of California? Is it Cuba?

    Alaska.
    Bloody global warming. :mad:


  • #4485
    MikeCork2009
    Registered Users Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭MikeCork2009


    Akabusi wrote: »
    Just looking at John King's map, what's that grey Island of the coast of California? Is it Cuba?

    That's Alaska.


  • #4486
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,202 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Statement from the Trump camp claiming more made up bull****.


  • #4487
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    I trust this is more than a news dump link ;)

    EmJavU_WMAETye_?format=png&name=small


  • #4488
    Big Pussy Bonpensiero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,778 ✭✭✭Big Pussy Bonpensiero


    everlast75 wrote: »
    One more, maybe last, contender for "there's always a tweet"?

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/266031768728109056?s=20

    Keep them coming.


  • #4489
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,482 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Akabusi wrote: »
    Just looking at John King's map, what's that grey Island of the coast of California? Is it Cuba?

    Alaska. Out of position obviously. Grey because not yet called.


  • #4490
    Christy42
    Registered Users Posts: 8,045 ✭✭✭Christy42


    ArmaniJeanss wrote: »
    Alaska. Out of position obviously. Grey because not yet called.

    You would have thought that one could have been called immediately. I don't see much chance of Biden taking Alaska.


  • #4491
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,931 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    I trust this is more than a news dump link ;)

    EmJavU_WMAETye_?format=png&name=small

    Certainly looks like a "dump"....


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  • #4492
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,202 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    The Conservative sub-reddit now saying Fox News is in Biden's pocket. ****ing laughable stuff out there :D


  • #4493
    UpBack1234
    Registered Users Posts: 107 ✭✭UpBack1234


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    I trust this is more than a news dump link ;)

    EmJavU_WMAETye_?format=png&name=small

    *Narrators Voice* 'But it was over.'


  • #4494
    Exclamation Marc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,158 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    Christy42 wrote: »
    You would have thought that one could have been called immediately. I don't see much chance of Biden taking Alaska.

    Very small chance but not impossible.


  • #4495
    Exclamation Marc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,158 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    CNN Panel are going to be exhausted after this. They've been on at both ends of the day since Tuesday

    They've been great though, I have to say.


  • #4496
    Exclamation Marc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,158 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    Fox News have mandated staff to not call Biden the "president elect" due to legal challenges if he passes 270.

    Madness.


  • #4497
    firemansam4
    Registered Users Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭firemansam4


    Matt Morgan from Trumps campaign team confident that when the election is final Trump will remain President....

    Taken from sky news site:

    "The president's team has issued a defiant statement after Joe Biden overtook him in Pennsylvania - which would hand him victory - and Georgia.

    Here's what Matt Morgan, Trump 2020 campaign general counsel, said: "This election is not over. The false projection of Joe Biden as the winner is based on results in four states that are far from final. 

    "Georgia is headed for a recount, where we are confident we will find ballots improperly harvested, and where President Trump will ultimately prevail. 

    "There were many irregularities in Pennsylvania, including having election officials prevent our volunteer legal observers from having meaningful access to vote counting locations. 

    "We prevailed in court on our challenge, but were deprived of valuable time and denied the transparency we are entitled to under state law. 

    "In Nevada, there appear to be thousands of individuals who improperly cast mail ballots. 

    "Finally, the President is on course to win Arizona outright, despite the irresponsible and erroneous 'calling' of the state for Biden by Fox News and the Associated Press. 

    "Biden is relying on these states for his phony claim on the White House, but once the election is final, President Trump will be re-elected."



    Comical Ali comes to mind so much reading that....


  • #4498
    Exclamation Marc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,158 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    Biden picked up another net 1200 votes in PA in the last few minutes. Gap now 6737.

    Edit. Came from Bucks County which was previously 51.4/46.6 split to Biden, this vote was 68% of the mail ins.


  • #4499
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,831 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    firemansam4 wrote: »
    Matt Morgan from Trumps campaign team confident that when the election is final Trump will remain President....

    Taken from sky news site:

    "The president's team has issued a defiant statement after Joe Biden overtook him in Pennsylvania - which would hand him victory - and Georgia.

    Here's what Matt Morgan, Trump 2020 campaign general counsel, said: "This election is not over. The false projection of Joe Biden as the winner is based on results in four states that are far from final. 

    "Georgia is headed for a recount, where we are confident we will find ballots improperly harvested, and where President Trump will ultimately prevail. 

    "There were many irregularities in Pennsylvania, including having election officials prevent our volunteer legal observers from having meaningful access to vote counting locations. 

    "We prevailed in court on our challenge, but were deprived of valuable time and denied the transparency we are entitled to under state law. 

    "In Nevada, there appear to be thousands of individuals who improperly cast mail ballots. 

    "Finally, the President is on course to win Arizona outright, despite the irresponsible and erroneous 'calling' of the state for Biden by Fox News and the Associated Press. 

    "Biden is relying on these states for his phony claim on the White House, but once the election is final, President Trump will be re-elected."



    Comical Ali comes to mind so much reading that....

    Only one side has said "I have won" though and it isn't Biden.

    He has said "I'm confident when the votes are counted I'll be the winner" which is a perfectly acceptable position to hold.


  • #4500
    paul71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,272 ✭✭✭paul71


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Only one side has said "I have won" though and it isn't Biden.

    He has said "I'm confident when the votes are counted I'll be the winner" which is a perfectly acceptable position to hold.

    Not only is it reasonable it is now increasingly apparent that it is based on fact.


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  • #4501
    paul71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,272 ✭✭✭paul71


    Exclamation Marc wrote: »
    Biden picked up another net 1200 votes in PA in the last few minutes. Gap now 6737.

    Edit. Came from Bucks County which was previously 51.4/46.6 split to Biden, this vote was 68% of the mail ins.

    I also noticed on the AP website that a lot of counties in PN which were showing figures of 92% voted moved to 99% without any extra votes. I think that part had been estimated all along. I am used to seeing Irish 1st counts where the total number of votes is known on the first round.


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