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US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,051 ✭✭✭✭josip


    The NYT is predicting Ossoff quite strongly and have been all night.

    "We think about 93,000 votes remain. If that's right, Ossoff would need to win about 51 percent of those votes. We think he's on track to win between 57 and >95 percent. (Our best guess is 77 right now)"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    Tonight's 'result' and the GOP performance is going to be an exploding hand grenade in the Senate tomorrow. There's nooo way the seditionists should be allowed to continue with their farce electoral college shenannigans. What would they be doing it for? Fighting against the Constitution to support a failed moron who has basically cost them the Senate??? This is the end of Trump!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,801 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Time to turn on Fox News! :D

    Extraordinary by any standard. And all down to Trump at the end of the day basically telling his OWN republican supporters it's all rigged - well, why vote then?, i'm sure they thought


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,813 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Conservatives on Twitter are incredible. Talking about how they're too tired so going to bed but looking forward to waking up to Conservative victories unless, something illegal happens during the night.........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,339 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    The Republicans have only themselves to blame for this one. Party unity, normally a strong point for them, has utterly failed, with the various personages looking after their own interests in the post Presidential season in their own districts instead of stopping to think how it would reflect upon the known soon-to-be election in Georgia, and the party's control as a whole.

    It's simply astonishing how they picked Trump in the first place.
    It's like how we picked Dustin the turkey or those red-head twins to represent us in the Eurovision.

    Voting for any other reason than what you should be.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    Loeffler about to speak now.

    EDIT: So, she's not conceding.... she's going to win this election!!!

    LMAO!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,801 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog




  • Registered Users Posts: 23,801 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    TomOnBoard wrote: »
    Loeffler about to speak now.

    EDIT: So, she's not conceding.... she's going to win this election!!!

    LMAO!!!

    I'm watching CNN, didn't see anything? Where was that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,813 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how



    He started those 5 years ago.

    I'm glad he's watching it. Must be killing him.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,433 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    It's simply astonishing how they picked Trump in the first place.
    It's like how we picked Dustin the turkey or those red-head twins to represent us in the Eurovision.

    Voting for any other reason than what you should be.

    In fairness, I’d have voted for Dustin, as a good poke in the eye of folks who take Eurovision too seriously.

    Jedward, however, was a shooting offense.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,051 ✭✭✭✭josip


    I will enjoy seeing Mitch McConnell sidelined.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,199 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Was not expecting a double win for the Dems. Still not done, but looking quite good at the moment.

    Trump will go mental tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,634 ✭✭✭✭Bobeagleburger


    Trumps finale. The dems to have both houses. You couldn't make it up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,217 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Well this is a surprise to wake up to. The two GOP candidates have only themselves to blame and then the trump factor was the final nail in the coffin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭dogbert27


    Ossoff-Perdue isn't officially called yet though is it?

    And Loeffler is refusing to concede so will there be further court cases coming from her to claim election fraud too?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,199 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Will be interesting to see if this impacts Pence today at the senate. Trump and Mitch will be piling even more pressure on him to challenge the results.

    Still won't be easy to pass some of the changes they want to, given how center some of the sitting Dems are.
    dogbert27 wrote: »
    Ossoff-Perdue isn't officially called yet though is it?

    And Loeffler is refusing to concede so will there be further court cases coming from her to claim election fraud too?

    Still not called, and Loeffler won't concede. She'll hang on and call foul for as long as possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Fell asleep a couple of hours ago when Ossoff took the lead.

    The whole night was a microcosm of November's madness.

    Hopefully the rest of the ballots to be counted keep breaking for the Dems so that they get over the 0.5% threshold.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    This is almost sweeter than the biden win. Trump hands dems the senate. Glorious.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,199 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Joe Manchin will become very important to both parties now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,754 ✭✭✭Dillonb3


    froog wrote: »
    This is almost sweeter than the biden win. Trump hands dems the senate. Glorious.

    4 years of Trump presidency has seen Arizona and Georgia changing their presidential votes from republican to Democrat and 4 senate seats from Republican to Democrat


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,707 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Per fivethirtyeight.com re: Georgia runoff:

    "...the more heavily a county backed Trump in the November general election, the more its runoff turnout tended to drop relative the general"


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    The senate race could have a bigger impact on US politics than the presidential race, if Dems win control of the senate, it will vindicate the likes of Romney even more and could be a real opportunity for real geniune conservative Republicans to assess their party and start to steer it in another direction before its too late.

    No doubt the Trump base will stay there but they need to cut them loose and those charlatan politcians who play to them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Leaving aside anything Republican vs Democrat, waking up and seeing Loeffler defeated is a good start to the day. Didn't know who she was before the election and the insider trading but have discovered what a piece of work she is since then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,817 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    froog wrote: »
    This is almost sweeter than the biden win. Trump hands dems the senate. Glorious.

    Still commiserating that, if they had won the Senate properly without the runoff, they could have been legislating since Monday. Now the have to wait for the recounts/disputes etc. to seat these 2, and you can bet the Senate could see some obstruction on confirming Biden’s cabinet.


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Kiith wrote: »
    Joe Manchin will become very important to both parties now.

    Yep. Probably the most powerful Senator in there now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,511 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    It's over. Republicans win both senate seats.

    Well that's aged well


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Kiith wrote: »
    Will be interesting to see if this impacts Pence today at the senate. Trump and Mitch will be piling even more pressure on him to challenge the results.

    Still won't be easy to pass some of the changes they want to, given how center some of the sitting Dems are.


    Still not called, and Loeffler won't concede. She'll hang on and call foul for as long as possible.

    Warnocks lead is way outside any margin for a recount , so Loeffler can whinge all she likes.

    They'll probably go back to court to try and overturn the decision by Stacey Abrams sister , but that only involved about 4k votes , so not enough to matter.

    If Ossoffs wins as projected , then Perdue might make the recount threshold , but again it won't change the result.

    You have to wonder looking at the different results in the two races - Who in hell voted for Warnock AND Perdue?

    Utterly bizarre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,315 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Kiith wrote: »
    Will be interesting to see if this impacts Pence today at the senate. Trump and Mitch will be piling even more pressure on him to challenge the results.

    He can't challenge the results.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,663 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Warnocks lead is way outside any margin for a recount , so Loeffler can whinge all she likes.

    They'll probably go back to court to try and overturn the decision by Stacey Abrams sister , but that only involved about 4k votes , so not enough to matter.

    If Ossoffs wins as projected , then Perdue might make the recount threshold , but again it won't change the result.

    You have to wonder looking at the different results in the two races - Who in hell voted for Warnock AND Perdue?

    Utterly bizarre.

    Well see Perdue is a real incumbent, unlike Loeffler, so he was always going to have a slight edge over Ossoff because of that. Likely there were some swing voter shifts who split the ticket.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,345 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    If the Democrats hold on for the 50-50 then as well as having legislative implications it will also allow them to confirm federal judges without needing to rely on the largesse of Mitch McConnell. That also, of course, includes the Supreme Court and I would think that there is a good chance that 82 year old liberal justice Stephen Bryer might step down if he knows that Biden can replace him with a like-minded judge.


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