US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

Carfacemandog

10000maniacs wrote: »

Did a Democrat ever win Virginia?

Hillary Clinton, and Obama twice.

Before then, the last Democrat winner in VA was Lyndon Johnson.

marno21

Posters drawing conclusions based on the data to date is nuts. It is impossible to draw any conclusions based on what we've seen. Miami-Dade trend is unique and won't be seen elsewhere. Suburban pro-Biden trend is important.

Biden can lose Florida and still realistically achieve wins in 330-380 electoral votes. Especially if his vote in Ohio holds.

StringerBell

10000maniacs wrote: »

Did a Democrat ever win Virginia?

Barrack Hussein Obama along with Hilary and I'd expect Biden to win there too.

themink

Biden's odds have improved a lot on Betfair... still in with a good chance it seems

Larbre34

1% in it in Florida. Yikes.

Virginia is now blue.

BonnieSituation

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

isn't it who wins Ohio.. always wins the election ?

Usually yeah.

BlitzKrieg wrote: »

Am I crazy or is Biden leading in Texas?

He seems to be on CNN.
I haven't checked anywhere.

10000maniacs wrote: »

Did a Democrat ever win Virginia?

Yeah, HC in 2016 and Obama in 2008 and 2012.

Exclamation Marc

CNN fella at the computer needs to stop for breath

breezy1985

Mayor of Miami just tried to claim that Venezuela was the 2nd richest country in the world before Chavez. Utter clown

Blanco100

last president to be elected whilst losing Florida?

Itssoeasy

marno21 wrote: »

Posters drawing conclusions based on the data to date is nuts. It is impossible to draw any conclusions based on what we've seen. Miami-Dade trend is unique and won't be seen elsewhere. Suburban pro-Biden trend is important.

Biden can lose Florida and still realistically achieve wins in 330-380 electoral votes. Especially if his vote in Ohio holds.

Yeah msnbc are saying that Florida is more important to trump than Biden.

Biden is polling well in Texas urban areas.

marno21

marno21 wrote: »

Posters drawing conclusions based on the data to date is nuts. It is impossible to draw any conclusions based on what we've seen. Miami-Dade trend is unique and won't be seen elsewhere. Suburban pro-Biden trend is important.

Biden can lose Florida and still realistically achieve wins in 330-380 electoral votes. Especially if his vote in Ohio holds.

I don't think anyone who wants Biden to win but sees that he's going to lose Florida is writing him off for the Electoral College. Biden needed to be ahead before the panhandle votes started to come in.

Brian?

Florida is done. Move on.

namloc1980

Larbre34 wrote: »

1% in it in Florida. Yikes.

If Biden had matched Hillary in Miami Dade he would've won Florida.

Itssoeasy

marno21 wrote: »

Posters drawing conclusions based on the data to date is nuts. It is impossible to draw any conclusions based on what we've seen. Miami-Dade trend is unique and won't be seen elsewhere. Suburban pro-Biden trend is important.

Biden can lose Florida and still realistically achieve wins in 330-380 electoral votes. Especially if his vote in Ohio holds.

Yeah msnbc are saying that Florida is more important to trump than Biden.

Biden is polling well in Texas urban areas.

listermint

[Deleted User] wrote: »

CNN call states as the polls close when it's obvious how it's going to go. It's obvious that Trump has Florida won but they're afraid to say it.

No they're reporting the figures as they come in.

Just because you don't like that doesn't make it less factual.

In fact I would say youd give out about it if CNN were making up stuff..

Francie Barrett

StringerBell wrote: »

Crushed is a tad hysterical. He didn't run up the score in Miami Dade

I am sorry, but crushed is the correct term. The US is having to deal with an economy that is in a mess with covid wreaking havoc. For Biden to actually lose Florida by more votes than a deeply unpopular candidate like Hillary is disastrous.

Mr.Nice Guy

Early days and all but Biden's Ohio numbers are encouraging.

Carfacemandog

87% in, 10mn votes, and Trump with a 130k/3% lead - Florida looks like it is more or less decided as most of the remainder are panhandle (deep red) counties who are 1hr later from the rest of the state.

Florida was a nice-to-win for Biden, but was absolutely crucial for Trump. That is a lifeline he absolutely needs.

10000maniacs

Trump 163,000 ahead in Florida.

Anyone got good sites for live results. As in just the data. CNN are doing my head in focussing on Florida.

BonnieSituation

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Yeah msnbc are saying that Florida is more important to trump than Biden.

Biden is polling well in Texas urban areas.

That's been the case since this campaign began.

Reading that all night on here has been quite annoying.

Kiith

Deleted User wrote: »

Anyone got good sites for live results. As in just the data. CNN are doing my head in focussing on Florida.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2020/nov/03/us-election-2020-live-results-donald-trump-joe-biden-who-won-presidential-republican-democrat

Larbre34

namloc1980 wrote: »

If Biden had matched Hillary in Miami Dade he would've won Florida.

Los cubanos don't trust a socialist.

briany

Is that 90 percent of the entire vote that Florida has counted so far, because if it is, that's impressive. Wish every state did it Florida's way if so, or that they could do. Would be shorter and more decisive.

StringerBell

Francie Barrett wrote: »

I am sorry, but crushed is the correct term. The US is having to deal with an economy that is in a mess with covid wreaking havoc. For Biden to actually lose Florida by more votes than a deeply unpopular candidate like Hillary is disastrous.

It's factually incorrect, but sure look.

Widdensushi

Deleted User wrote: »

Anyone got good sites for live results. As in just the data. CNN are doing my head in focussing on Florida.

If it was the other way would you watch it?

Itssoeasy

BonnieSituation wrote: »

That's been the case since this campaign began.

Reading that all night on here has been quite annoying.

I was just posting what msnbc are saying. Ohio and Texas early are positive but early days. Biden is polling ahead of Clinton and Obama in major urban areas.

Carfacemandog

Exclamation Marc wrote: »

CNN fella at the computer needs to stop for breath

Machines don't need to breath!

Really liking this guy, and I'm very surprised to see this coverage on CNN who usually love to turn politics into a reality TV event more than most.

This is a great accompaniment/offset to Wolf "Florida!Florida!Florida!Florida!Florida!Florida!Florida!Florida!" Blitzer - https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/results-president.html

breezy1985

Francie Barrett wrote: »

I am sorry, but crushed is the correct term. The US is having to deal with an economy that is in a mess with covid wreaking havoc. For Biden to actually lose Florida by more votes than a deeply unpopular candidate like Hillary is disastrous.

Deeply unpopular but won the popular vote