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US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,617 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Whatever happens its yet again a crazy night, US elections v irish/uk elections are like watching WWE and remembering wrestling years ago when Big daddy faced giant haystacks every weekend on ITV (you youngsters won't have a clue what I'm on about) :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,612 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    Blanco100 wrote: »
    Postal votes and early voters though.

    Ohio isn't actually that heavily skewed by postal and early. They seem to be coming through at about the same rate as today's votes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Arkansas goes to trump.

    I always have a mild heart attack when they call the likes AR and WV for Republicans and then I realise the State they actually say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,528 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Akabusi wrote: »
    Biden will not get Ohio or NC.

    NC often votes Democrat and he's leading there.

    Ohoi looks really good too for him. 55% votes in and he's 54% to 44% ahead.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭All_in_Flynn


    Hmmm, not sure those early leads in NC and Ohio are large enough to withstand the in person voting which will heavily favour Trump.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,450 ✭✭✭RedXIV


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Most of the early votes counted in NC were mail in and early which would be heavily Democratic. It'll tighten up as today's votes get counted which would be mostly Republicans.

    even still, going off the numbers, Trump would need to basically get EVERY vote remaining to prevent Biden from taking the state. I can see Biden taking this


  • Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭Widye


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    Even most of the Americans demanding socialism are right by European standards. Jesus the US thinks the Irish healthcare system is socialist ffs

    Some elements of socialism make sense and- IMO- should be considered in a social model esp free health care but full blown socialism is not the answer. A fairer form of capitalism benefits far more of the population than socialism.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,224 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Biden massively overperforming in Ohio. If he gets that over the lines it's a big step.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    I'm guessing there's a misconception about how votes are being counted (e.g. missing that rural, deeper red counties tend to come in a little later). It's why the NYT and CNN coverage (and any others doing similar) are so much more useful than the jibber jabbering nonsense on many other broadcasts. Just letting you know the numbers, where they are from, and where the ones remaining are likely to break... plus the guy on CNN is just great.


    Everyone is having a love in for John King and CNN tonight.

    Never knew he was married to Dana Bash.

    ---

    I have watched a lot of US elections over the years and CNN coverage this year is by far and away the best I've ever seen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,528 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Widye wrote: »
    Because they know what socialism brings perhaps

    Cubans know what real communism is.

    They should also know what Republicans are calling Socialism is nothing near it.


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  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    kowloon wrote: »
    It seems really early to call it at 8%, I hadn't realised they jumped to declare so quickly.
    Because it was always going to go red. Unless in the first 8% of the votes counted there's a swing of 30% compared to what was expected then it's fine and makes sense to call it.

    Brian? wrote: »
    Where are you getting this nonsense from? Biden is way ahead in Ohio. 10 point lead with 50% of the count done.

    Ohio will tighten up massively. It is looking good but I still wouldn't be counting on it. AZ/Wisconsin/NC does it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,587 ✭✭✭This is it


    Gap in NC closing


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    murpho999 wrote: »
    NC often votes Democrat and he's leading there.

    Ohoi looks really good too for him. 55% votes in and he's 54% to 44% ahead.

    Think its the early votes that have him ahead, just watch it tighten.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Akabusi wrote: »
    Biden will not get Ohio or NC.

    What are you basing that on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,612 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    King is very good on CNN.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,528 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Akabusi wrote: »
    Think its the early votes that have him ahead, just watch it tighten.

    You don't know really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,226 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Everyone is having a love in for John King and CNN tonight.

    Never knew he was married to Dana Bash.

    ---

    I have watched a lot of US elections over the years and CNN coverage this year is by far and away the best I've ever seen.

    He’s married to Dana bash ? I’m listening to msnbc so not hearing him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,617 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Everyone is having a love in for John King and CNN tonight.

    Never knew he was married to Dana Bash.

    ---

    I have watched a lot of US elections over the years and CNN coverage this year is by far and away the best I've ever seen.

    The man is a machine! Thank feck Blitzer is in the background.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Widye wrote: »
    We aren't but we're on the path unfortunately

    Path to what unfortunately?


  • Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭Widye


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Cubans know what real communism is.

    They should also know what Republicans are calling Socialism is nothing near it.

    But its creeping in and perhaps they are skeptical of those who say it isn't.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,193 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    RedXIV wrote: »
    even still, going off the numbers, Trump would need to basically get EVERY vote remaining to prevent Biden from taking the state. I can see Biden taking this

    Think he needs to take about 3/4 of the remaining vote?

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,226 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Water John wrote: »
    King is very good on CNN.

    Steve kornacki on msnbc is no slouch either.


  • Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭Widye


    Path to what unfortunately?

    To Socialism


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,594 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    https://twitter.com/FiveThirtyEight/status/1323806449777168384

    There was a lot of talk about a 'red mirage' but I'm worried we might be witnessing a blue one as it stands.

    I keep remembering what year we're in. I have a bad feeling about this.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Biden handily ahead in NH. Good sign for the rest of the north.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,450 ✭✭✭RedXIV


    Think he needs to take about 3/4 of the remaining vote?

    yeah that looks about right, it's doable but I still think Biden will steal it at the end


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,193 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    murpho999 wrote: »
    You don't know really.

    They said on CNN a little while ago the NC vote had been made up of 97% early vote and it's been tightening since.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,274 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Biden handily ahead in NH. Good sign for the rest of the north.

    Never in doubt


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,092 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    Can someone explain how some states with only some votes noted as counted are declaring one way or the other?

    Is it essentially precedent based?

    For example, Arkansas has declared for Trump with only 14% of votes counted. Massachusetts declaring for Biden with 3% counted.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,193 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    What time do we get excited about Ohio?

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



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