US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

Larbre34

josip wrote: »

Are you saying that the Democratic Party are responsible for the lack of educated people in the US?

You know what, they are.

Everyone who has sat on their fat ass in Washington DC the past 70 years is responsible for it.

MJohnston

snailsong wrote: »

So Biden need 2/3 of the votes or close to in these. Is that likely?

He needs about 60% of the remaining PA ballots, and those are nearly all early votes. They’ve broken for Biden at around 80% in WI but PA is a very different state (even within itself).

TheCitizen

murpho999 wrote: »

So what?
Paddy Power have no information on the election.

They're moving a market that's dictated by people reacting to what's happeningon TV.

There's no insight or experts there.

They're reacting to Biden now looking like he may win those two key marginals in Wisconsin and Michigan. Thanks (if it happens) to those postal votes that Trump doesn't want counted :rolleyes:. It's an absolute disgrace that he's so close to winning again.

kilns

josip wrote: »

Are you saying that the Democratic Party are responsible for the lack of educated people in the US?

No but its their fault for not engaging with those uneducated whom Trump has seduced

Quin_Dub

Quin_Dub wrote: »

And endless Senate investigations into Hunter and Ukraine.

Although some might say turnabout is fair game on that front...

And the Democrat AG sending all his Federal prosecutors after Trump family interests and their links to Republican bigwigs

AlphaDelta1

Quin_Dub wrote: »

And endless Senate investigations into Hunter and Ukraine.

Although some might say turnabout is fair game on that front...

It won't happen. Joe will retire after this humiliation and be forgotten about by next year.

MJohnston

I was wrong on Nevada - it tightened a bit more, but Clark County (ie. Vegas) didn’t report its mail totals yet. And probably won’t today.

seamus

Biden surging ahead in the popular vote according to the tracker on RTE. He was about 1m votes ahead when I got up this morning, now 2.3m votes ahead.

I know the popular vote basically means nothing, but it does tell us where the last few counts are going.

This whole process is so bizarre; every media outlet has declared a different # of electoral votes for Biden.

Brian?

MJohnston wrote: »

He needs about 60% of the remaining PA ballots, and those are nearly all early votes. They’ve broken for Biden at around 80% in WI but PA is a very different state (even within itself).

Pa is like 3 different states. Philly, Pittsburgh and the rural districts.

Nerdlingr

Detroit gonna swing it for Biden in Michigan

Eduard Khil

Fox are saying as many as 6 states could be disputed and challenged in the supreme court given that every state uses different counting rules this could be way worse than the Florida debacle in 2000

martingriff

The Raging Bile Duct wrote: »

He's saying that it's Democratic Party's fault for picking Biden. Let's be fair, he's probably a safe pair of hands but he's not a very inspiring candidate.

I think that's why he may have been picked. Let's have a quiet 4 years (you may see Republicans in cabinet) and try to move away from where we are as the Democrats can not win if if stays as it is or moves even more

jasonb

seamus wrote: »

Biden surging ahead in the popular vote according to the tracker on RTE. He was about 1m votes ahead when I got up this morning, now 2.3m votes ahead.

I know the popular vote basically means nothing, but it does tell us where the last few counts are going.

This whole process is so bizarre; every media outlet has declared a different # of electoral votes for Biden.

Not necessarily, they're still counting in lots of 'called' states, so he could be getting more votes in the states he's already won. I think?

For a bit of contect Biden is now 2.2million ahead on the popular vote, and states like Califonia and New York are only reporting about 66%. If Trump wins on a narrow margin, Biden will likely end up with over 50% of the popular vote at at least a 4 million advantage. Mental system.

seamus

jasonb wrote: »

Not necessarily, they're still counting in lots of 'called' states, so he could be getting more votes in the states he's already won. I think?

That's a fair point.

gmisk

AlphaDelta1 wrote: »

It won't happen. Joe will retire after this humiliation and be forgotten about by next year.

What humiliation?
He hasn't even lost yet

Quin_Dub

Eduard Khil wrote: »

Fox are saying as many as 6 states could be disputed and challenged in the supreme court given that every state uses different counting rules this could be way worse than the Florida debacle in 2000

It just seems that the run to the courts for everything in the US.

It's bizarre.

I mean we've had various challenges and endless recounts over the years , but I cannot remember a single election needing to call on the courts for resolution in Ireland (or the UK for that matter) in the 30+ years I've been voting.

MJohnston

The state of the state of Nevada:

https://twitter.com/ralstonreports/status/1323938308183916545?s=21

If Biden is ahead before the provisional votes then he's in the clear even if it goes to court. The provisionals will skew very heavily Democrat, hopefully they won't be needed.

Standard Toaster

Can't let one bad night ruin what's been an amazing year.

Dillonb3

MJohnston wrote: »

The state of the state of Nevada:

https://twitter.com/ralstonreports/status/1323938308183916545?s=21

Last time clark county voted republican.was for George Bush snr in 88

Carfacemandog

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Vote counting won't be stopped because Trump said so.

Winner will be fair and square. Let's hope the other side accepts it for the sake of democracy in the USA like mentioned

That didn't age too well, Trump is now trying to claim victory and calling the election a fraud all at the one time, while also trying to demand votes stop being counted.

Which if we're all honest, we knew would be the case if he didn't have it won by this morning.

~Rebel~

Standard Toaster wrote: »

Can't let one bad night ruin what's been an amazing year.

Well this is something I never thought I’d hear someone say in 2020.

ExMachina1000

Carfacemandog wrote: »

That didn't age too well, Trump is now trying to claim victory and calling the election a fraud all at the one time, while also trying to demand votes stop being counted.

Which if we're all honest, we knew would be the case if he didn't have it won by this morning.

I posted that after Trumps comments

ThewhiteJesus

gmisk wrote: »

What humiliation?
He hasn't even lost yet

only a matter of time

josip

kilns wrote: »

No but its their fault for not engaging with those uneducated whom Trump has seduced

It's not possible to compete with a populist who will say whatever appeals to the less educated in order to secure their votes.

shrewd

Brian? wrote: »

20pt delta? What are you talking about?

I still think Trump is looking likely, but it’s matter of one or 2 states.

what two states?

circadian

Deleted User wrote: »

For a bit of contect Biden is now 2.2million ahead on the popular vote, and states like Califonia and New York are only reporting about 66%. If Trump wins on a narrow margin, Biden will likely end up with over 50% of the popular vote at at least a 4 million advantage. Mental system.

I think if Trump wins but Biden has a massive majority of popular vote then there'll be people on the streets, everyone is already so wound up. Not to mention Trump is not a gracious winner by any means so he'll happily stoke that fire.

Carfacemandog

Deleted User wrote: »

If Biden is ahead before the provisional votes then he's in the clear even if it goes to court. The provisionals will skew very heavily Democrat, hopefully they won't be needed.

Am I right that provisional votes are ones where the illigibility of the voter is contested that take a few days to confirm and count?

gmisk

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

only a matter of time

I don't think it is....
Things are all over the shop.
People who are very pro trump seem to think Biden now has the better chance...he is now slight favourite in betting as well