US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

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Zak Flaps

shocksy wrote: »

No not my typo, the other posters typo. You move on man child. Get a grip of yourself. You're obviously greeting over the results PAL.

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If you need anyone to talk to.

vafankillar

vafankillar wrote: »

because I dislike politicians who draft laws putting hundreds of thousands of people in prison for low level crime and bomb countries in the middle east, along with people who support and enable them.

I thought the narrative was that Biden had done nothing in all his years in politics.

dinorebel

shocksy wrote: »

They're a bit late to the party. He lost that ages ago by about 20k.

Exclamation Marc wrote: »

Dude relax. You quoted a post that named only one candidate and then referred to "he".

Think everyone made the same jump that you were referencing Biden. Just crossed wires, no need to be so aggro.

As you say both quotes below



"CNN projects Wisconsin for Biden."




"They're a bit late to the party. He lost that ages ago by about 20k"

StringerBell

embraer170 wrote: »

We will be waiting for Arizona until tomorrow morning Irish time.


https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/2020-election-results-coverage/

Grim reading for the trump campaign there.

TomOnBoard

JazzyJ wrote: »

So why not have the presidential election as popular vote? States still get an equal voice in congress. Each person gets an equal vote in the presidential election.

Coz that would leave small States with little/no voice in deciding who should be POTUS. Again, that's how it was set up when the US was created. By all means, get it changed, by a Constitutional Amendment, but I'd see that as a no-hoper under the rules of the Constitution.

briany

correct horse battery staple wrote: »

America is meant to be #1 in everything according to trumpists, why are comparing the US to what Trump would probably refer to as "****hole l" counties?

Why also then are you not comparing to South Korea or Germany or hell even Ireland?

The kind of thing that Trump has been coming out with re:Covid wouldn't be stood for if it came out of Micheal Martin or Boris Johnson. If Michael Martin got up and said we'd had so many deaths per million from Covid, but hey at least we're not France, he'd be lambasted. Constant equivocation from a leader essentially means they can at least attempt to sidestep all culpability for their own situation.

Timberrrrrrrr

Sky calling wisconsin for Biden


Although that's gonna be contested by Trump.

Podge_irl

Akabusi wrote: »

Is there anything to stop Trump running again in 2024 provided he does not win this?
He would still have his base and provided he isn't in jail would have 4 years to shout from the sidelines.

Nothing legally to stop him no.

Quin_Dub

Zak Flaps wrote: »

Here you go.

shocksy wrote: »

Yes Trump. Ffs if you cant keep up leave the thread. It was clear who I was on about as another poster quoted me saying that's true. Just cause you cant keep up that's not my problem PAL.

dinorebel wrote: »

Wasn't calling you a liar it read as Trump had won.

##Mod Note##

Wind the necks in lads.

You are both agreeing with each other.

Park and move on.

Thanks

Kur4mA

https://twitter.com/AP_Politics/status/1324068335177388039?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

FatherTed

Some more election gems....
ND elects a Republican who died from Covid a month ago...

https://twitter.com/politico/status/1323905706521710592

A Nebraska Constitution Amendment to remove Slavery as a punishment for Crime won by 68.16% to 31.84%. Who are these 31% who think this is still ok????

https://ballotpedia.org/Nebraska_Amendment_1,_Remove_Slavery_as_Punishment_for_Crime_from_Constitution_Amendment_(2020)

briany

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Sky calling wisconsin for Biden


Although that's gonna be contested by Trump.

Perfectly normal to demand electoral scrutiny in a close race.

paul71

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Moved on a little further

Trump 2,388,026 (+355)
Biden 2,306,532 (+6469)

Huge ratio there toward Biden.

95% complete , so about 250k left to count if I'm working this out right.

A roughly 2/3rds Ratio for Biden would win it and he's been doing better than that in the last few updates.

I just had a look at that, to my surprise 6 rural counties changed from red to blue in the last hour, I did not build that into my tracker I was assuming the rural counties mail in would fall the same way as the in person, they are not the are coming in 10 to 1 in favour of Biden. Biden now looking like 30k win in Georgia if the mail in breaks down the same way in other rural areas.

FatherTed

Some more election gems....
ND elects a Republican who died from Covid a month ago...

https://twitter.com/politico/status/1323905706521710592

A Nebraska Constitution Amendment to remove Slavery as a punishment for Crime won by 68.16% to 31.84%. Who are these 31% who think this is still ok????

https://ballotpedia.org/Nebraska_Amendment_1,_Remove_Slavery_as_Punishment_for_Crime_from_Constitution_Amendment_(2020)

Headshot

FatherTed wrote: »

Some more election gems....
ND elects a Republican who died from Covid a month ago...

https://twitter.com/politico/status/1323905706521710592

A Nebraska Constitution Amendment to remove Slavery as a punishment for Crime won by 68.16% to 31.84%. Who are these 31% who think this is still ok????

https://ballotpedia.org/Nebraska_Amendment_1,_Remove_Slavery_as_Punishment_for_Crime_from_Constitution_Amendment_(2020)

Trump voters

Brussels Sprout

Akabusi wrote: »

Is there anything to stop Trump running again in 2024 provided he does not win this?

Nope and it's even been done successfully once before: Grover Cleveland in 1884 & 1892 (having lost in 1888)

Quin_Dub

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Sky calling wisconsin for Biden


Although that's gonna be contested by Trump.

So , just checking.

The threshold for being able to call for a recount in Wisconsin is 1%.

Biden currently leads by 0.6% with votes still to come. If he breaks the 1% threshold not sure there's a lot Trump can do.


Michigan is a bit more complex - According to Ballotpedia


The Rules are

A candidate can request a recount if all of the following conditions are met:

1. The candidate ran for one of the following offices: president and vice president, state executive (e.g., governor), U.S. Senate, U.S. House, circuit judges, or state senators and state representatives elected from districts that span more than one county
2. The request "alleges that the candidate is aggrieved on account of fraud or mistake in the canvass of the votes"
3. The request "shall contain specific allegations of wrongdoing only if evidence of that wrongdoing is available to the petitioner. If evidence of wrongdoing is not available, the petitioner is only required to allege fraud or a mistake in the petition without further specification."
4. The request "sets forth as nearly as possible the nature and character of the fraud or mistakes alleged and the counties, cities, or townships and the precincts in which they exist."
5. The request "specifies the counties, cities, townships, and precincts in which the recount is requested."

So , not very easy to get a recount and would look to be almost impossible to get a Statewide recount as you have to specify issues at each county level at a minimum.

Biden currently leads in Michigan by 0.7%

briany

What's going on with Pennsylvania? It's been stuck on 80 percent counted for the last few hours it seems.

Timberrrrrrrr

Quin_Dub wrote: »

So , just checking.

The threshold for being able to call for a recount in Wisconsin is 1%.

Biden currently leads by 0.6% with votes still to come. If he breaks the 1% threshold not sure there's a lot Trump can do.


Michigan is a bit more complex - According to Ballotpedia


The Rules are



So , not very easy to get a recount and would look to be almost impossible to get a Statewide recount as you have to specify issues at each county level at a minimum.

Biden currently leads in Michigan by 0.7%

I think if he doesn't get 1% he can use the "voter fraud" claim/ clause to get a recount

Mr.Nice Guy

Arizona is still a concern despite Fox and AP calling it. That could blow this thing wide open yet.

https://twitter.com/ryanmatsumoto1/status/1324071654352322560

https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1324071703400665088

If Pennsylvania and Michigan go Biden's way then Arizona won't matter...

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1324069252555485189

Jimbob1977

Headshot wrote: »

Trump voters

Ironically the Democrats were the "party of slavery".

When the Civil War was lost, Southern Democrats founded the Ku Klux Klan to lynch Republicans and freed black people.

Infini

Michican is pretry certain at this point for Biden but Pennsylvania is the key, if Biden can manage to flip it in his favour this contest is done without a doubt as thats one of the big catches.

FatherTed

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

Ironically the Democrats were the "party of slavery".

When the Civil War was lost, Southern Democrats founded the Ku Klux Klan to lynch Republicans and freed black people.

Ironic indeed that the repubs are now the party of slavery.... Lincoln must be rolling in his grave.

vafankillar

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

Ironically the Democrats were the "party of slavery".

When the Civil War was lost, Southern Democrats founded the Ku Klux Klan to lynch Republicans and freed black people.

ffs not this again, the party switched political spheres/base in the 1960s, that democrat party is basically became todays republican party

Quin_Dub

Looking very much like a Net Zero gain in the Senate for the Democrats or at best a +1

Up two - Kelly and Hickenlooper , but lost Doug Jones in Alabama and Peters in Michigan is currently 23k behind - He might catch up though , but cutting it fine.

vafankillar

Trump went from 48.9 up to 49.1 for me and then back on two different sites for michigan, anyone else notice that?

paul71

Pennslyania most recent batch of votes (103,366) fell 78% Biden 22% Trump, About 900k to 1 million left and if they fall in same proportion Biden wins by 130,000. If Georgia goes the way I urban and the last update of rural votes has gone that is 320k-35k win for Biden too, Trump is getting North Carolina.

Mr.Nice Guy

More positive signs for Biden in PA:

https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1324075266981978125

https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1324075955917361155

Quin_Dub

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Moved on a little further

Trump 2,388,026 (+355)
Biden 2,306,532 (+6469)

Huge ratio there toward Biden.

95% complete , so about 250k left to count if I'm working this out right.

A roughly 2/3rds Ratio for Biden would win it and he's been doing better than that in the last few updates.

Another update

Trump - 2,390,030 (+2004)
Biden - 2,312,014 (+5482)

Biden maintaining that required 2/3rds take rate , still technically showing 95% complete.