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archery bow for hunting?.

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  • 03-11-2020 11:27pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭


    hey all anyone ever try a archery bow for hunting small game,also would a 30lb or 40lb bow be good enough.

    also how accurate is a bow from 50 or 60 feet?.
    was told you need special tips on the arrows,cause if you use a sharp tip it will only go straight true the small game and he will run away some where to die.
    you need a tip that will kinda knock him for 6.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,672 ✭✭✭Feisar


    Bow hunting is illegal here.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭bassy


    Feisar wrote: »
    Bow hunting is illegal here.

    oh sorry i never knew that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,672 ✭✭✭Feisar


    bassy wrote: »
    oh sorry i never knew that.

    No need to apologise!

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭Zxthinger


    Unfortunately its illegal here. However, in other countries it is still a very effective method of game harvesting.
    People need to be proficient and that takes training. You also find that most US states specifically quote 45lbs as the min for deer hunting.
    Some states also dictate the types of broadheads that a hunter must use.

    It's a billion dollar industry in US. Ireland and the UK are the only two English speaking countries that prohibit it.

    The ways things are going I'm just be happy to have a gun that launches projectiles. Lol


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 RaySla


    If you want to get into archery I recommend that you join an archery club so you can learn the basics and choose what avenue you want to go down wether it be compound or recurve bow. there are a good few archery clubs around. Where are you living I might be able to put you in the right direction.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭bassy


    RaySla wrote: »
    If you want to get into archery I recommend that you join an archery club so you can learn the basics and choose what avenue you want to go down wether it be compound or recurve bow. there are a good few archery clubs around. Where are you living I might be able to put you in the right direction.

    whats the difference between recurve and compund bow,the compound bow has more power ye and is for a experienced archer?.no?.

    im on the kilkenny laois bordei was looking at man kung compund bows.
    i prefer the robin hood type bow,them ones with the wheels look odd looking to me lol.


  • Registered Users Posts: 510 ✭✭✭feelpablo


    bassy wrote: »
    whats the difference between recurve and compund bow,the compound bow has more power ye and is for a experienced archer?.no?.

    im on the kilkenny laois bordei was looking at man kung compund bows.
    i prefer the robin hood type bow,them ones with the wheels look odd looking to me lol.


    I never shot a bow before and purchased a second hand compound in febuary.


    i have fallen in love with archery since, you have to put in a lot of work and its all about repetiton and doing the exact same thing the exact same way every time.


    compound bows are basically just higher powered robin hood type bows.


    they can extract more poundage due to the use of cams (wheels).


    i have no clubs or no one around me to teach me but done a lot of research and followed john dudleys youtube classes called "school of nock"


    best of luck with it all


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭bassy


    compund bows in now way resemble a robin hood bow.

    whats your accuracy from 50 meters ?.


  • Registered Users Posts: 510 ✭✭✭feelpablo


    bassy wrote: »
    compund bows in now way resemble a robin hood bow.

    whats your accuracy from 50 meters ?.




    well as you call it " Robin Hood" is actually called a longbow and used in traditonal archery.


    Id also beg to differ that they dont resemble each other! They both have a string, they both have risers, they both have limbs. the only difference is the cams which aids the higher poundage which in turn lets you shoot longer distances at a higher accuracy.



    There are two main types of modern bow compounds and recurve.


    recurves dont have the cams but have longer limbs which can generate speed and power.


    30 to 90 meters is the standard distance for outdoor targets
    indoor is usually 18 or 25 i think


    im fairly ok at fifty


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭cookimonster


    I picked up cheap garden recurve bows from Decathlon in France many years back. I usually break them out in the summer and while away a few afternoons with them, mostly just at 20 yards. I made a few thumpers out of fibre glass target arrows with 308 cases epoxied to the tips for shooting tin cans and blocks of wood.

    I find anything like catapults, archery and knife throwing very relaxing but at the same time stimulating, .... with out actually editing this, I rephrase it- 'de-stressing' is a better description


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  • Registered Users Posts: 510 ✭✭✭feelpablo


    I find it a huge stress reducer.!! I spend easily an hour each day at the weekend letting off arrows and it has reignited my love of all things shooting.

    I nearly sold my guns a couple of years ago as I wasn’t using them, a double barrel trap gun and an air rifle but in the last month I’ve been shooting too.

    Not only that but as a long time lurker on this hunting forum it’s made me take the jump into hunting and I have just bought my first .308

    As a tool for a bit of sport and target shooting it’s fantastic value


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭cookimonster


    feelpablo wrote: »
    As a tool for a bit of sport and target shooting it’s fantastic value

    My Father introduced me to archery when I was younger, although it wasn't a regular thing.
    His childhood was of different times and perspectives, buying antique muzzle loaders in junk shops and using shotgun shells to load them, school boys making home made explosives (chemical experiments), hand made bows, freely bought air rifles, etc, etc all stuff frowned upon now.
    As a youngster I got to enjoy some of the same pleasures altough the science projects and horse pistols were consigned to history and secrecy.
    I learned some of the rudimentaries of archery with a fibre glass recurve bow and a few half decent home made bows that were well capable of skewering your neighbour and on several occasions a crossbow would turn up. At one stage I remember a cousin bringing around a Barrnet Commando, all I remember was that it was heavy, too heavy.
    I might take the plunge and invest some Covid savings into a compound bow for the coming year.

    To the OP, when the craziness is behind us look into 3D archery, there is or was a few locations around.

    Have a look at this site - Shooting Style, looks like a one stop shop.

    https://www.shootingstyle.ie/view_product.php?cat_id=123


  • Registered Users Posts: 510 ✭✭✭feelpablo


    Some fantastic memories there by the sounds of things.

    To the op another option for your archery needs and it’s where I do 90% of my archery shopping from is www.merlinarchery.com

    It’s a great site and always great customer service


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭bassy


    whats a very good compound bow to buy under 200 euros


  • Registered Users Posts: 510 ✭✭✭feelpablo


    bassy wrote: »
    whats a very good compound bow to buy under 200 euros

    Now I’ll be honest I’m no expert, but I done a huge amount of reading before I bought and all the knowledge out there will tell you there is no such thing at that price point.

    The brands to stick to are pse, Hoyt, and matthews.

    I’ll see if I can figure out what the starter bows come in at


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭cookimonster


    feelpablo wrote: »
    .

    To the op another option for your archery needs and it’s where I do 90% of my archery shopping from is www.merlinarchery.com

    It’s a great site and always great customer service

    Snap.... just found it. All ready eyeing up some of the 10-60 lbs adjustable bows.


  • Registered Users Posts: 510 ✭✭✭feelpablo


    https://www.merlinarchery.co.uk/pse-uprising-compound-package.html

    Pse Full kit including scope and stabiliser so all you need is arrows


  • Registered Users Posts: 510 ✭✭✭feelpablo


    https://www.merlinarchery.co.uk/hoyt-fireshot-compound-bow.html

    Hoyt entry level no scope or stabiliser inc


  • Registered Users Posts: 510 ✭✭✭feelpablo


    https://www.merlinarchery.co.uk/mission-radik-compound-bow.html

    Matthews entry level bow... no scope or stabiliser


  • Registered Users Posts: 510 ✭✭✭feelpablo


    Now I have no idea how those bows shoot!

    I bought a thirty year old compound in February and got the bug but it was such a hunk of junk I bought a pse centrix from the states in March.

    This was the best decision I made as I’ll always spend time at archery now thanks to having a better bow and an understanding of it.

    A couple of things you need to look for in buying a bow

    1. Adjustable draw length ie: the distance you personally have to pull the bow string back. It needs to be adjustable and your length needs to be in that distance.

    2. Pull weight or poundage. A 60lb bow may sound great and all but you may not be able to pull the thing back! All modern bows have a let off value in percent. This is how much weight comes off when you are at full draw( all the way back).
    You need a bow that you can adjust .. as a beginner something in 30 - 50/60 lb.


    Last but not least if you can’t get to a club start reading and watching every video you ca
    Enjoy


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭bassy


    can you get 1000FPS?


  • Registered Users Posts: 510 ✭✭✭feelpablo


    bassy wrote: »
    can you get 1000FPS?

    😂😂 I would doubt it!!

    My bow is about 280/290 .. the highest number I’ve heard is maybe 380


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭bassy


    feelpablo wrote: »
    ���� I would doubt it!!

    My bow is about 280/290 .. the highest number I’ve heard is maybe 380

    just thats like a bb gun there about 320 FPS and a bb gun is crap.
    i like something thats gonna penetrate from a 100 yrds lol


  • Registered Users Posts: 510 ✭✭✭feelpablo


    bassy wrote: »
    just thats like a bb gun there about 320 FPS and a bb gun is crap.
    i like something thats gonna penetrate from a 100 yrds lol

    I’m not being funny here or smart man but you need to do a bit of research on all this.

    Comparing a .22 air rifle pellet to a 28 inch arrow that ways 500 grains with a broad head attached is a world of difference!!!!!!

    As already stated it’s illegal to hunt here with a bow but in other country’s elk and big red deer are hunted with compound bows... usually the closer the better the same as with a rifle but I have watched videos of real good archers taking a buck at 100yards.

    Comparable fps maybe but transferable energy at entry point and weight of projectile are not.

    I will gladly point you in the way of some reading on it all


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,088 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    I put a very good quality recurve bow set with everything you need to get started up for sale in the archery forum fairly recently, Winstar riser and Kap Challenger limbs.

    It's 68" inches and 36lbs, once you're strong enough to hold it steady and aim at full draw it's very, very accurate and powerful.

    Proper Robin Hood stuff, very little use, 200 euro and away you go.

    It's for target archery and the same set up would be used by a lot of competitors.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭bassy


    I put a very good quality recurve bow set with everything you need to get started up for sale in the archery forum fairly recently, Winstar riser and Kap Challenger limbs.

    It's 68" inches and 36lbs, once you're strong enough to hold it steady and aim at full draw it's very, very accurate and powerful.

    Proper Robin Hood stuff, very little use, 200 euro and away you go.

    after a 50lbs plus


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,311 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    bassy wrote: »
    after a 50lbs plus

    I’ve never driven before. Gimme the keys to a F1 car please. Why? Because I don’t want to get able. I just want to be able.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭bassy


    endacl wrote: »
    I’ve never driven before. Gimme the keys to a F1 car please. Why? Because I don’t want to get able. I just want to be able.

    not starting off with a starter kit and put more exspense in to it later on,i will start with whats best and not have to upgrade simple as.

    by the way im right handed but use my left eye to aim will a right handed bow suit ?.
    i feel comfortable with the bow in left or right hand,but as i say i use my left eye for aiming.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,088 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    bassy wrote: »
    not starting off with a starter kit and put more exspense in to it later on,i will start with whats best and not have to upgrade simple as.

    by the way im right handed but use my left eye to aim will a right handed bow suit ?.
    i feel comfortable with the bow in left or right hand,but as i say i use my left eye for aiming.

    Yeah a right handed bow will suit.

    A 36lb bow is not a starter kit, you'd want to be stronger than average to draw back the bow string. To hold it steady enough to aim at and hit any target consistently at a reasonable range takes a lot of practice and strength.

    If you've never fired an arrow before there's a better chance that you will win the lotto than hit a barn door from 100 yards with a 50lb recurve bow.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭bassy


    Yeah a right handed bow will suit.

    A 36lb bow is not a starter kit, you'd want to be stronger than average to draw back the bow string. To hold it steady enough to aim at and hit any target consistently at a reasonable range takes a lot of practice and strength.

    If you've never fired an arrow before there's a better chance that you will win the lotto than hit a barn door from 100 yards with a 50lb recurve bow.

    boy god i would surprise you so,never used a bow before.

    did a paint ball target years ago and never done it before i hit 95 percent of the targets the fella said unusual,i said what is he said your right handed and left eye dominant thats unusual enough he said.also he asked had i shot before i said never my first time at this crack i don,t think he believed me.


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