Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

jmayo

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

It was well written for him that's for sure

Well maybe if Trump employed a speech writer now and again rather than spewing shyte and speaking like a kid then he might actually be winning and shoe in for another term.

I fail to understand, actually I despair, how people can support and defend such a muppet.

And the fact we have so many posters, may not actually be that many people, on here defending Trump, lauding him and supporting him shows we have our own gobdaws that will believe any old shyte.

Dear God Trump and his supporters are demanding for counting to stop in one state whilst demanding it continues in another just because they are winning in one and losing in the other.

It is fooking infantile and something you would see from school kids.

FFS is this the best the US has to offer.
No matter who wins the USA is doomed.

MeMen2_MoRi_

froog wrote: »

There are legitimate approved observers from both sides in every single count centre. You can't just rock up in your MAGA hat after slamming 10 bud lights and demand to sit next to a counter with your phone in their face.

It's akin to trying to rock up and vote after the voting process has stopped.

lawred2

namloc1980 wrote: »

Biden is ahead in Arizona also and has cut the gap in Georgia to just 18k. He's also surging in Pennsylvania and possible he'll overtake Trump there.

Think Google has already given Arizona to Biden..

It's just at this point, the six he needs is in Nevada where his lead isn't exactly massive. He's down everywhere else.

lawred2

lawred2 wrote: »

Google says Biden ahead in Nevada by 8k votes and down everywhere else.

It's not exactly impossible that Trump wins all four is it?

There's any air of suredness in here that must mean I'm missing something obvious.

1) Biden is ahead in Nevada, Arizona and Wisconsin

2) The remaining ballots are primarily mail in ballots which are heavily leaning towards Biden and/or for districts that are likely to be democratic

Hurrache

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Sigh! if you can't see how having observers from both parties keeping check on postal votes is a legitimate request then there is no hope for you. Parties in the Irish count centres during the tallies do the same. Covid isn't a legitimate excuse to keep them out, just get them to wear the proper PPE so they can monitor.

Like has been pointed out, there's already observers from both sides, and some places have cameras too.

Just because the Trump side said it's not happening, don't automatically drink their coolaid and poison your mind with their nonsense.

eagle eye

lawred2 wrote:

It's not exactly impossible that Trump wins all four is it?

He's going to lose by a lot in Pennsylvania.
Georgia starting to look.like a Biden win too.
A lot if the votes yet to be counted in Nevada are from historicslly strong Democrats areas.

y0ssar1an22

i can see trump getting to 268.

alaska 3
pennsylvania 20
georgia 16
north carolina 15

arizona to biden

with nevada being the swing state. biden about 8k in front with between 87-99% counted.

as per: https://results.decisiondeskhq.com/

eagle eye

y0ssar1an22 wrote:

i can see trump getting to 268.

You need to go to Specsavers then.

y0ssar1an22

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

i can see trump getting to 268.

alaska 3
pennsylvania 20
georgia 16
north carolina 15

arizona to biden

with nevada being the swing state. biden about 8k in front with between 87-99% counted.

as per: https://results.decisiondeskhq.com/

Trump is not getting Pennsylvania.

Inquitus

Re: Electoral College

If it breaks this way, which is looking less likely now, but still possible we can end up at 269-269

Biden - GA
Trump - AZ, NV, PA

Re: Runoffs

Aye it will be an interesting Dynamic, it actually looks like Trump has really got out his vote well, and dragged up down ticket people with turnout, one would assume in a run off the GOP vote will be a lot softer, hopefully the Dem voters remember how important those reruns are to Biden and his ability to shape the country.

y0ssar1an22

eagle eye wrote: »

You need to go to Specsavers then.

i do wear specs!

y0ssar1an22

Deleted User wrote: »

Trump is not getting Pennsylvania.

it'll be close in fairness.

trump 153k in the lead with about 334k left to count

is_that_so

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

i can see trump getting to 268.

alaska 3
pennsylvania 20
georgia 16
north carolina 15

arizona to biden

with nevada being the swing state. biden about 8k in front with between 87-99% counted.

as per: https://results.decisiondeskhq.com/

NC & AK are the only ones guaranteed. PA may well go Biden, GA will be reporting more numbers in about 3 hours but very very tight.

schmoo2k

Tij da feen wrote: »

Literally every Republican candidate in everyone of these districts would be screaming and shouting if there were no observers present.

They are complaining about a few specific ones.

ThewhiteJesus

jmayo wrote: »

Well maybe if Trump employed a speech writer now and again rather than spewing shyte and speaking like a kid then he might actually be winning and shoe in for another term.

I fail to understand, actually I despair, how people can support and defend such a muppet.

And the fact we have so many posters, may not actually be that many people, on here defending Trump, lauding him and supporting him shows we have our own gobdaws that will believe any old shyte.

Dear God Trump and his supporters are demanding for counting to stop in one state whilst demanding it continues in another just because they are winning in one and losing in the other.

It is fooking infantile and something you would see from school kids.

FFS is this the best the US has to offer.
No matter who wins the USA is doomed.

listen people are free to support whoever they like, just like here.
Whilst i wouldn't go as far as to say America is doomed, i do agree they could have done alot better than these two nominees.

MeMen2_MoRi_

Tij da feen wrote: »

Literally every Republican candidate in everyone of these districts would be screaming and shouting if there were no observers present.

If there was proof, we've heard the POTUS say that he has lawyers ready to go.. well show the proof, get lawyers on the news channels and state their case for the rule breaking/rigging that's supposedly going on.

All fluff and no spark.

All that is being argued in courts is that there is an assumption that votes cast after the third will be counted in the days ahead.

namloc1980

lawred2 wrote: »

Think Google has already given Arizona to Biden..

It's just at this point, the six he needs is in Nevada where his head isn't exactly massive. He's down everywhere else.

He'll win Nevada as the remaining votes to be counted are mail in ballots which at worst will be 50:50 but likely more in favour of Biden.

Biden will also likely take Pennsylvania - as almost all the remaining votes to be counted are in Philadelphia where Biden will get 75% of the vote at least.

Graham

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

i can see trump getting to 268.

alaska 3
pennsylvania 20
georgia 16
north carolina 15

arizona to biden

I expect Georgia and Pennsylvaina to swing democrat at some point today as the remaining votes are counted.

y0ssar1an22

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

it'll be close in fairness.

trump 153k in the lead with about 334k left to count

There is more than twice that left to count. It will not be close.

Doctors room ghost

Graham wrote: »

I expect Georgia and Pennsylvaina to swing democrat at some point today as the remaining votes are counted.

What time Irish time can we expect to see votes finish counting

Banana Republic 1

lawred2 wrote: »

Google says Biden ahead in Nevada by 8k votes and down everywhere else.

It's not exactly impossible that Trump wins all four is it?

There's any air of suredness in here that must mean I'm missing something obvious.

If you watch the opinion pieces on Fox News there looking back at 2016 and looking forward to 2024.They clearly think the game is up
What there also doing is saying whatever Trump did or was trying to do in the last four years is what Biden wants to do but now because Trump stopped Biden winning a landslide he has prevented the Demos plot to destroy America. Fox are giving Biden 264 vs trumps 214 now.

y0ssar1an22

is_that_so wrote: »

NC & AK are the only ones guaranteed. PA may well go Biden, GA will be reporting more numbers in about 3 hours but very very tight.

re georgia. trump 18k in front with approx. 24k left to count

Graham

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

What time Irish time can we expect to see votes finish counting

Next predicted updates

Georgia 10:30am ET
Nevada 12pm ET
Arizona 9pm ET

SoapMcTavish

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

i can see trump getting to 268.

alaska 3
pennsylvania 20
georgia 16
north carolina 15

arizona to biden

with nevada being the swing state. biden about 8k in front with between 87-99% counted.

as per: https://results.decisiondeskhq.com/

Pennsylvania ?

Injuryprone

jmayo wrote: »

I fail to understand, actually I despair, how people can support and defend such a muppet.

Basically, I think it comes down to:
1. He cut taxes which put a bit more money in people's pockets, to the detriment of the balance sheet of the government, I suppose.
2. He cut regulations on corporations, mainly environmental, which resulted in their stock prices to go up. Which resulted in people's pension plans looking rosier. But overall, not necessarily in the best interest of the country as a whole.
3. Florida was mainly won I think because he told the Hispanics that Biden would be bringing in socialism, which is just what many of them have fleed from

is_that_so

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

What time Irish time can we expect to see votes finish counting

All day, middle of the night for some and could be Friday for others. It's like a long count here!

Inquitus

Graham wrote: »

Next predicted updates

Georgia 10:30am ET
Nevada 12pm ET
Arizona 9pm ET

GA and NV will probably tell us the most late afternoon / early evening.

y0ssar1an22

Deleted User wrote: »

There is more than twice that left to count. It will not be close.

that website i referenced has the count at 91-98.6% in. i got the 334k left by using 95% being counted already

ETA: if its 91% biden should win. if 98.6% trump should win. somewhere in between (the 95% i used), i dunno.

OscarMIlde

sheeplover55 wrote: »

pee'd on some hookers in Russia apparently.

if there was actual dirt on trump they would have found it 3 years ago, it's all baloney

It's regarding the payments to Stormy Daniels, which has already resulted in Cohen being jailed. It was marked down as 'legal expenses', which is a falsification of business records. It was also argued that since she was paid off to help his election chances it was a campaign contribution and illegally exceeded the donation limit. There is an argument that Trump can avoid Federal charges if he pardons himself, but any state charges are unaffected by such a pardon.

Quin_Dub

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

re georgia. trump 18k in front with approx. 24k left to count

Closer to 100k left to count..

96% complete , roughly 4.6M votes counted so far so 4% would be somewhere north of 95k on that basis.