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Penn

CNN saying 50k votes left to count in Georgia

DrPhilG

Ignoring the debate of who is winning what, how the hell can the almighty US of A not get their **** together on a vote.

Vote is on Tuesday, fine. Mail in votes have to be in by Tuesday at the latest. Get all mail in votes and in person votes together in a few different locations per state and count them on Tuesday and Wednesday. Result announced Wednesday night for each state one after the other and the winner is clear at the end.

Wouldn't change the endless legal challenges that Donald is going to engage in but for an election with normal candidates it would be a lot cleaner.

All this bollocks going on with ballots coming in a few days after the election, some counties being a day late, hundreds of thousands of votes rolling in at 4am, Florida practically done and dusted on Tuesday night yet Pennsylvania won't be done til Thursday.

I'll admit as a viewer it makes for an entertaining rollercoaster, but as an administrator the feckless inefficiency of it all is appalling.

is_that_so

is_that_so wrote: »

Per Bob Casey a PA senator an hour ago, it's 400K.

400K left to count, not left to play (i.e. not declared).

Asylum15

Lollipop95 wrote: »

Can confirm. My American friends voted not because they like Biden (they think he’s extremely corrupt), but because he’s the lesser of two evils and they’re desperate to get rid of Trump

This.

Dozens of American mates of mine the same in Georgia/Arizona.

They hate Biden (refer to him as Joe Blow) but he's the lesser evil in their eyes.

is_that_so

Larbre34 wrote: »

784,000.

Trumps lead is down from 600,000 to 164,500.

That's about the full total but PA site has not been updated recently.

y0ssar1an22

is_that_so wrote: »

Per Bob Casey a PA senator an hour ago, it's 400K.

if 400k:


split current total
400,000.00 0.75 300,000.00 3,051,555.00 3,351,555.00 biden wins
0.25 100,000.00 3,215,969.00 3,315,969.00
- -
0.7 280,000.00 3,051,555.00 3,331,555.00
0.3 120,000.00 3,215,969.00 3,335,969.00 trump wins

0.65 260,000.00 3,051,555.00 3,311,555.00
0.35 140,000.00 3,215,969.00 3,355,969.00 trump wins
-
0.625 250,000.00 3,051,555.00 3,301,555.00
0.375 150,000.00 3,215,969.00 3,365,969.00 trump wins
-
0.615 246,000.00 3,051,555.00 3,297,555.00
0.385 154,000.00 3,215,969.00 3,369,969.00 trump wins
-
0.61 244,000.00 3,051,555.00 3,295,555.00
0.39 156,000.00 3,215,969.00 3,371,969.00 trump wins

0.60 240,000.00 3,051,555.00 3,291,555.00
0.40 160,000.00 3,215,969.00 3,375,969.00 trump wins

0.55 220,000.00 3,051,555.00 3,271,555.00
0.45 180,000.00 3,215,969.00 3,395,969.00 trump wins

irishfeen

Penn wrote: »

CNN saying 50k votes left to count in Georgia

It’s going to be ridiculously close .. Biden needs approx 63% of them

wes

BobbyMalone wrote: »

Things hotting up in Las Vegas:


https://twitter.com/AndrewFeinberg/status/1324344957109415936


And according to the Guardian:


The tweet mentions Matt Schlapp as a Brooks Brothers Riot participant. For those of us without total recall of US elections from twenty years ago, my colleague Adam Gabbatt reminded us what the Brooks Brothers Riot was recently:


In late November 2000, hundreds of mostly middle-aged male protesters, dressed in off-the-peg suits and cautious ties, descended on the Miami-Dade polling headquarters in Florida. Shouting, jostling, and punching, they demanded that a recount of ballots for the presidential election be stopped.
The protesters, many of whom were paid Republican operatives, succeeded. A recount of ballots in Florida was abandoned. What became known as the Brooks Brothers riot went down in infamy, and George W Bush became president after a supreme court decision.

So Republicans trying to steal another election like they did in 2000.

Classy anti-Trump protestor spitting in the face of a policeman.

Imagine if he'd won.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8916565/Foul-mouthed-anti-Trump-protester-spits-police-officers-face.html#comments

funnydoggy

Mother (who is into the whole QAnon bullsh*t) is now thinking that there's fraud because on facebook and twitter people are saying that their vote didn't show

Lord help me:rolleyes:

jimmycrackcorm

Lollipop95 wrote: »

Can confirm. My American friends voted not because they like Biden (they think he’s extremely corrupt), but because he’s the lesser of two evils and they’re desperate to get rid of Trump

Americans are amusing how they'll believe anything without fact-checking.

Boggles

50K left to be counted in Georgia.

Biden needs 70% of them.

nullzero

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Classy anti-Trump protestor spitting in the face of a policeman.

Imagine if he'd won.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8916565/Foul-mouthed-anti-Trump-protester-spits-police-officers-face.html#comments

The same police that Biden is happy to have people throwing missiles at?

Nobody has the moral high ground on either side of that divide. They're all rolling in the filth.

irishfeen

Boggles wrote: »

50K left to be counted in Georgia.

Biden needs 70% of them.

63% I think after a quick count in my head

Smee_Again

DrPhilG wrote: »

Ignoring the debate of who is winning what, how the hell can the almighty US of A not get their **** together on a vote.

Vote is on Tuesday, fine. Mail in votes have to be in by Tuesday at the latest. Get all mail in votes and in person votes together in a few different locations per state and count them on Tuesday and Wednesday. Result announced Wednesday night for each state one after the other and the winner is clear at the end.

Wouldn't change the endless legal challenges that Donald is going to engage in but for an election with normal candidates it would be a lot cleaner.

All this bollocks going on with ballots coming in a few days after the election, some counties being a day late, hundreds of thousands of votes rolling in at 4am, Florida practically done and dusted on Tuesday night yet Pennsylvania won't be done til Thursday.

I'll admit as a viewer it makes for an entertaining rollercoaster, but as an administrator the feckless inefficiency of it all is appalling.

Agreed, but a lot of the inefficiencies are by design to obfuscate things.

DrumSteve

nullzero wrote: »

The same police that Biden is happy to have people throwing missiles at?

Nobody has the moral high ground on either side of that divide. They're all rolling in the filth.

*frantically googles for confirmation this is true*

namloc1980

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

Americans are amusing how they'll believe anything without fact-checking.

Plenty of them on here too. We've had more than one poster throwing around the lie that there were more votes cast in Wisconsin than registered voters.

wes

nullzero wrote: »

The same police that Biden is happy to have people throwing missiles at?

Trying to make out Biden as being anti-police is hilarious .

I think all the people trying to make out Joe Biden as some kind of radical socialist is laughable. He is a center right democrat. Trump is just so far to the right, that some people actually fooled themselves into thinking Joe Biden is left wing.

is_that_so

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

if 400k:


split current total
400,000.00 0.75 300,000.00 3,051,555.00 3,351,555.00 biden wins
0.25 100,000.00 3,215,969.00 3,315,969.00
- -
0.7 280,000.00 3,051,555.00 3,331,555.00
0.3 120,000.00 3,215,969.00 3,335,969.00 trump wins

0.65 260,000.00 3,051,555.00 3,311,555.00
0.35 140,000.00 3,215,969.00 3,355,969.00 trump wins
-
0.625 250,000.00 3,051,555.00 3,301,555.00
0.375 150,000.00 3,215,969.00 3,365,969.00 trump wins
-
0.615 246,000.00 3,051,555.00 3,297,555.00
0.385 154,000.00 3,215,969.00 3,369,969.00 trump wins
-
0.61 244,000.00 3,051,555.00 3,295,555.00
0.39 156,000.00 3,215,969.00 3,371,969.00 trump wins

0.60 240,000.00 3,051,555.00 3,291,555.00
0.40 160,000.00 3,215,969.00 3,375,969.00 trump wins

0.55 220,000.00 3,051,555.00 3,271,555.00
0.45 180,000.00 3,215,969.00 3,395,969.00 trump wins

It's the top one it's based on and with Philly at about 140K that's a gap down to about 60K. Most of what's left is strong Dem leaning. This is why they want to stop the count!

namloc1980

DrumSteve wrote: »

*frantically googles for confirmation this is true*

Narrator: "It wasn't".

Bigboldworld

Have checked out since yesterday, what’s the current state of play, is Biden still on track?

robinph

DrPhilG wrote: »

Ignoring the debate of who is winning what, how the hell can the almighty US of A not get their **** together on a vote.

Vote is on Tuesday, fine. Mail in votes have to be in by Tuesday at the latest. Get all mail in votes and in person votes together in a few different locations per state and count them on Tuesday and Wednesday. Result announced Wednesday night for each state one after the other and the winner is clear at the end.

Wouldn't change the endless legal challenges that Donald is going to engage in but for an election with normal candidates it would be a lot cleaner.

All this bollocks going on with ballots coming in a few days after the election, some counties being a day late, hundreds of thousands of votes rolling in at 4am, Florida practically done and dusted on Tuesday night yet Pennsylvania won't be done til Thursday.

I'll admit as a viewer it makes for an entertaining rollercoaster, but as an administrator the feckless inefficiency of it all is appalling.

Just down to some states getting ahead of the game and verifying the postal votes in advance, but not actually counting them, and others not allowed to even open the bag of votes that they received from USPS until after the votes have closed. There is the same number of days work involved in counting the postal votes from Florida, but they did it spread out over the last week or so and all they then had to do was fill the machine to count them on Tuesday night.

funnydoggy

Bigboldworld wrote: »

Have checked out since yesterday, what’s the current state of play, is Biden still on track?

253 to 213

Dohnjoe

nullzero wrote: »

Surely if the roles were reversed the Dems would be demanding re counts as well.

The roles are both ways. Trump is leading in some states, Biden is leading in others.

Trump has already falsely claimed he's the victor, he is attempting to dispute the vote without basis, he has called the election rigged before it started, he has suggested mail in votes are rigged, he is trying to stop counting in states where Biden is catching, he is not trying to stop counting in states where he might catch up, he told voters to vote twice before the election, he called the last election rigged (until he won it), it never ends. It's very much one-sided.

ExMachina1000

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Classy anti-Trump protestor spitting in the face of a policeman.

Imagine if he'd won.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8916565/Foul-mouthed-anti-Trump-protester-spits-police-officers-face.html#comments

Nasty.

Better than rioting and burning down buildings all the same.

What a year

Asylum15

Deleted User wrote: »

Classy anti-Trump protestor spitting in the face of a policeman.

Imagine if he'd won.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8916565/Foul-mouthed-anti-Trump-protester-spits-police-officers-face.html#comments

That officers patience....

I'd have smacked the SOUL out of her.

Quin_Dub

Larbre34 wrote: »

784,000.

Trumps lead is down from 600,000 to 164,500.

is_that_so wrote: »

Per Bob Casey a PA senator an hour ago, it's 400K.

Think there's definitely a gap in the communications about "Counted" and "Reported".

So there might be 400k left to "count" but 700k+ not yet added to the published tallies as we wait for actual announcements..

But it's hard to know , but either way there's still enough left to change the result.

gmisk

nullzero wrote: »

Surely if the roles were reversed the Dems would be demanding re counts as well.

Trump is a buffoon and makes his every action seem OTT and childish but with the way things have been in America of late we'd be seeing the same actions taken by the Dems if the roles were reversed albeit without quite as much of the magical moron dust Trump manages to sprinkle over everything.

I don't have any issue with the recounts.
If it's close enough within the margin the state sets fine makes sense.

It's more the constant barrage of false claims from Trump about the election being stolen, votes being dumped, telling them to stop counting votes which is pretty much deplorable imo. I honestly don't think Biden would behave in a similar manner.

nullzero

wes wrote: »

Trying to make out Biden as being anti-police is hilarious .

I think all the people trying to make out Joe Biden as some kind of radical socialist is laughable. He is a center right democrat. Trump is just so far to the right, that some people actually fooled themselves into thinking Joe Biden is left wing.

Did I say that?

Biden has been happy to endorse the BLM protest violence because the people involved in it were vehemently anti Trump and anything he opposes Biden would endorse to ensure votes.
I'm sure he's appalled by the violence, but publicly stating that those involved are in the wrong would be akin to shooting himself in the foot.

Penn

Bigboldworld wrote: »

Have checked out since yesterday, what’s the current state of play, is Biden still on track?

He's closer than Trump, but it's insanely close. Biden needs either Pennsylvania, or any two of Arizona/Nevada/Georgia. Trump needs for Biden to only win any one state other than PA, and for Trump to win everything else.