Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

funnydoggy

donfers wrote: »

Hopefully a new American will be born from the endless rancour

The U-NOT-ed States of America

Boggles

Cody montana wrote: »

102 thousand difference in PA.

142?

Enquiring

Is there any chance that neither Trump nor Biden will win and they have to have a re-election with decent candidates?

donfers

Cody montana wrote: »

102 thousand difference in PA.

namloc1980

Enquiring wrote: »

Is there any chance that neither Trump nor Biden will win and they have to have a re-election with decent candidates?

Yes in 2024

funnydoggy

Enquiring wrote: »

Is there any chance that neither Trump nor Biden will win and they have to have a re-election with decent candidates?

Kanye 2020

donfers

Doing the math this is a lot closer than the bookmakers and media are making out

Enquiring

namloc1980 wrote: »

Yes in 2024

What happens for the next 4 years?

cnocbui

donfers wrote: »

Hopefully a new American will be born from the endless rancour

That is likely impossible without making some much needed changes to the constitution and electoral process, but they set the barrier for altering the constitution too high.

wes

wes wrote: »

Trying to make out Biden as being anti-police is hilarious .

I think all the people trying to make out Joe Biden as some kind of radical socialist is laughable. He is a center right democrat. Trump is just so far to the right, that some people actually fooled themselves into thinking Joe Biden is left wing.

How the Democratic establishment have managed to get one of their guys in power is pretty impressive in fairness. I thought when they screwed over Bernie in 2016 that their grip on power was over. However they've managed to straddle the middle ground between the loony identitarian lefties, and the more right wing Trump, and persuade people that they were neither of those things.

namloc1980

Enquiring wrote: »

What happens for the next 4 years?

either Biden or Trump will be president.

ExMachina1000

funnydoggy wrote: »

Kanye 2020

A Yeezy Presidency

is_that_so

The potential of two special Senate elections in GA is intriguing. There will be one in January anyway, but David Perdue not home and hosed. It raises the possibility of a VP casting vote.

donfers

Sadly it will require a high bar for Trump to concede, he is not the type to go down without a fight especially with so many razor-thin margins in pivotal states, I don't blame him - a huge number of people voted for him, he must fight hard for them

robinph

donfers wrote: »

Doing the math this is a lot closer than the bookmakers and media are making out

It's close at the moment in the counting of votes in a couple of places. Perfectly possible yet for the EC votes to be 306 to Biden and 5+ million difference in the popular vote though when it's all over with.

Despite the goings on today with it not being clear yet, it might be a very clear victory for Biden, or very close EC vote for Trump and a loss on the popular vote.

BringBackMick

Nevada and Arizona = Biden President?

ChikiChiki

Stop the count is a call to his yahoo's to mobilise. I expect tensions will significantly ramp up today.

donfers

cnocbui wrote: »

That is likely impossible without making some much needed changes to the constitution and electoral process, but they set the barrier for altering the constitution too high.

Yes the language around that is needlessly pious, "founding fathers" and all that palaver rendering what is essentially a legal document written a few hundred years ago in vastly different times as sacred as the ten commandments are to christians, a tough sell but someone has to have the bravery to set that debate in motion

Loafing Oaf

BringBackMick wrote: »

Nevada and Arizona = Biden President?

Yep

Enquiring

namloc1980 wrote: »

either Biden or Trump will be president.

You didn't read my original question did you?

is_that_so

BringBackMick wrote: »

Nevada and Arizona = Biden President?

Yes or just PA!

Chardee MacDennis

McCain was a good man. He could have been a good president to try and bridge the divide of the country.

Penn

BringBackMick wrote: »

Nevada and Arizona = Biden President?

Yes. If Biden takes both of those states, he hits 270 and wins.

Smee_Again

donfers wrote: »

Sadly it will require a high bar for Trump to concede, he is not the type to go down without a fight especially with so many razor-thin margins in pivotal states, I don't blame him - a huge number of people voted for him, he must fight hard for them

He won't concede, he'll fight it in court or wherever he can and then he'll claim to the day he dies that he was unfairly beaten.

wes

The main reason I think Biden might win is that Trump is so desperate to stop all votes from being counted.

Trump should keep his mouth shut, as he could still win this legit, even if its looking unlikely. Even if he does win, he taints his victory, due to all the attempts to tamper with the results.

Doctor Jimbob

Overheal wrote: »

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1324353932022480896?s=20

What a fascist crybaby

Take out the "o" in count and you'd have a great response to send back to him.

ExMachina1000

Overheal wrote: »

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1324353932022480896?s=20

What a fascist crybaby

Fascist? No

Sore loser? Most definitely

Save the word fascist for real fascists please

Overheal

BringBackMick wrote: »

Nevada and Arizona = Biden President?

Yes thats one way.

Chardee MacDennis

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Fascist? No

Sore loser? Most definitely

Save the word fascist for real fascists please

Wannabe facist

drunkmonkey

BringBackMick wrote: »

Nevada and Arizona = Biden President?

Yup but I don't believe Biden will win Nevada. I think Trump will win Georgia, bookies are wrong on that one.