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Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

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    #6032
    CruelSummer
    Registered Users Posts: 2,277 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Deleted User wrote: »
    This election is some contrast to Obama's first term. Then the primary theme and motivation for Democratic votes was hope, and change.

    Now the primary motivation for both sides is fear and hatred. Fuelled mainly by Trumps' rhetoric. The damage that has been done to the American psyche might never be unravelled.

    True, and also social media's role in this. It's been a slow descent into the gutter. I fear Ireland will follow in the not too distant future..as will all of Europe. Kier Starmer in the U.K. gives me some hope, a more moderate left candidate to pull sides together.
    Biden was seen as a good centre candidate, and has quite a bit in common with the likes of John McCain, and previous moderate Republican candidates. If only he was a bit younger, perhaps he should have ran in 2016 instead of Hillary...


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    #6033
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,574 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »
    Isnt Biden winning more or less nailed?

    Its only how and by how much

    Recounts, conspiracies, lawsuits, it could be argued over for weeks, but yes for most people it will be a sign Trump's 18 year presidency is finally over.

    tenor.gif


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    #6034
    francois
    Registered Users Posts: 3,480 ✭✭✭francois


    froog wrote: »
    in a way i'm glad trump is in denial and not taking this well. makes it all the sweeter.

    All his life, getting his own way, surrounded by sycophantic yes-people, this is going to really hurt.


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    #6035
    Boggles
    Registered Users Posts: 40,236 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Trump going Full Trump on twitter!!!

    :pac:


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    #6036
    Enquiring
    Registered Users Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭Enquiring


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Trump dropped more bombs than Obama, he's just supressed reporting of it.

    Obama-bombs.jpg

    But Obama held the record up to then? More than Bush before him?


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    #6037
    Sierra Oscar
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,503 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    Deleted User wrote: »
    This election is some contrast to Obama's first term. Then the primary theme and motivation for Democratic votes was hope, and change.

    Now the primary motivation for both sides is fear and hatred. Fuelled mainly by Trumps' rhetoric. The damage that has been done to the American psyche might never be unravelled.

    The astonishing thing is that Trump is likely to exceed Obama's popular vote of 2008. He will never shut up about that.


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    #6038
    dark crystal
    Registered Users Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Boggles wrote: »
    Trump going Full Trump on twitter!!!

    :pac:

    Hopefully, he'll go quiet again soon once the Adderall wears off.


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    #6039
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Boggles wrote: »
    Trump going Full Trump on twitter!!!

    :pac:

    "Plenty of proof - just check out the Media" sums up his way of thinking pretty well.


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    #6040
    Penn
    Registered Users Posts: 33,887 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Boggles wrote: »
    Trump going Full Trump on twitter!!!

    :pac:

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1324386685858287616?s=20

    The fact he's specifically noting he's only challenging states that Biden recently won shows it's not about proof, it's just challenging the results because he doesn't like the results.


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    #6041
    VinLieger
    Registered Users Posts: 18,174 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    dark crystal wrote: »
    Hopefully, he'll go quiet again soon once the Adderall wears off.


    Nah that simply then Benzo o clock


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    #6042
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users Posts: 19,198 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Sierra Oscar wrote: »
    The astonishing thing is that Trump is likely to exceed Obama's popular vote of 2008. He will never shut up about that.

    Yeah, but he's gonna be kicked to the kerb by the Republicans and Biden will be President.

    He can say all he wants, but if a Trump talks sh*te in the forest and nobody is listening, does it make a sound?


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    #6043
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    CruelSummer wrote: »
    True, and also social media's role in this. It's been a slow descent into the gutter. I fear Ireland will follow in the not too distant future..as will all of Europe. Kier Starmer in the U.K. gives me some hope, a more moderate left candidate to pull sides together.
    Biden was seen as a good centre candidate, and has quite a bit in common with the likes of John McCain, and previous moderate Republican candidates. If only he was a bit younger, perhaps he should have ran in 2016 instead of Hillary...

    Biden in times gone by could easily have been a Republican politician, let's not forget part of Obama's motivation for having him as VP was to appeal to conservative minded Democrats and centrist Republicans. Bipartisan appointments at cabinet level used to be the norm. Trump has destroyed that.


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    #6044
    Enquiring
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    dark crystal wrote: »
    No, Trump has even more bigly numbers:

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2019/5/8/18619206/under-donald-trump-drone-strikes-far-exceed-obama-s-numbers

    That really is disgusting stuff. Just goes to show that it doesn't matter who gets elected. Obama, Trump, Biden, whoever, it will still result in other countries getting flattened and thousands dying.


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    #6045
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users Posts: 19,198 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Deleted User wrote: »
    "Plenty of proof - just check out the Media" sums up his way of thinking pretty well.

    Pretty ironic he's now desperately depending on Fake News !


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    #6046
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,313 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Pennsylvania Attorney General on CNN is having none of Trump's nonsense.


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    #6047
    gmisk
    Registered Users Posts: 33,175 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Penn wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1324386685858287616?s=20

    The fact he's specifically noting he's only challenging states that Biden recently won shows it's not about proof, it's just challenging the results because he doesn't like the results.
    Some high quality memes below that one!
    Love the pointing spiderman one ha


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    #6048
    francois
    Registered Users Posts: 3,480 ✭✭✭francois


    Boggles wrote: »
    Trump going Full Trump on twitter!!!

    :pac:

    He sounds like a prisoner of death row, waiting for the state governor to put a stay on execution, a stay which is never coming


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    #6049
    Penn
    Registered Users Posts: 33,887 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Trump's lead in Georgia now down to under 15k, based on new reporting of about 6k votes


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    #6050
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,313 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    John King back on the big board...awesome!


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    #6051
    y0ssar1an22
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    Penn wrote: »
    Trump's lead in Georgia now down to under 15k, based on new reporting of about 6k votes

    how many left do you know?


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    #6052
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Pennsylvania Attorney General on CNN is having none of Trump's nonsense.
    Josh Shapiro of the Democratic Party?


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    #6053
    irishfeen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    Biden might be just out of luck in Georgia... it’s going to be ridiculously close though.


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    #6054
    [Deleted User]
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    Sierra Oscar wrote: »
    The astonishing thing is that Trump is likely to exceed Obama's popular vote of 2008. He will never shut up about that.

    His voters are motivated, maybe even more than Obama's supporters ever were. He tapped into a very dark side of the populace, and that won't just disappear.


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    #6055
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Lol Trump spokeman to the press "Listen you're here to take in information" when questioned by the media the conference.


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    #6056
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,574 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    "Pennsylvania election officials plan to hold a news conference this afternoon. Democrats here are increasingly confident that Biden will have a big lead when all votes are counted." - NYT

    Sounds like there won't be an announcement at noon :(


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    #6057
    Sierra Oscar
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    irishfeen wrote: »
    Biden might be just out of luck in Georgia... it’s going to be ridiculously close though.

    Trump needs Georgia to keep his frustration and obstruction efforts on the road. They'll quickly run out of steam without a win there.


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    #6058
    7aubzxk43m2sni
    Closed Accounts Posts: 636 ✭✭✭7aubzxk43m2sni


    A pause on 35,000 votes to be counted in Philadelphia due to a legal challenge - they wont be counted until tomorrow


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    #6059
    briany
    Registered Users Posts: 14,044 ✭✭✭✭briany


    If Biden wins, and that's looking like a near certainty unless Trump can pull a huge political stroke, then it's not really an endorsement of him as much as it's an indictment of Trump. Biden would, in any normal election, be a massively whitebread uninspiring candidate. Just a basic old white guy who you figure will side with the big guy in the end. It's been enormously helpful for Biden that he's been running against a lot of people who are profoundly disturbed by Trump. Trump is as much of a conman as those he accused of being conmen in Washington and has no scruples about playing off fears to gain power. In terms of basic human decency, every American president I've seen looks to chart very high compared to Trump, no matter what their policies were. Trump just does not care.

    I think Trump will be back, though, one way or the other, either himself or someone he's endorsed.


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    #6060
    Overheal
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    Pittsburg won't process the rest of it's ballots until after 5PM on Friday due to a legal challenge.


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    #6061
    Penn
    Registered Users Posts: 33,887 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    y0ssar1an22 wrote: »
    how many left do you know?

    Could be approx 55k in Georgia altogether.

    Legal challenge in PA now according to CNN which is stopping counting in PA in one county of approx 30k ballots. Will resume counting tomorrow.


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