Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

FionnK86

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Lol Trump spokeman to the press "Listen you're here to take in information" when questioned by the media the conference.

Saw that, reporters laughing and they wouldn’t give their name.

tobefrank321

Watching CNN earlier, they're might have been a mix up with mail in votes in PA - a couple thousand were sent out twice to voters, potentially leading to problems. Unsurprising the Republicans would challenge that. Everyone wants to see a fair count.

namloc1980

Kolton Salty Streamer wrote: »

A pause on 35,000 votes to be counted in Philadelphia due to a legal challenge - they wont be counted until tomorrow

They are actually in Pittsburgh which is Biden's currently 60%-40%.

Doctor Jimbob

Penn wrote: »

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1324386685858287616?s=20

The fact he's specifically noting he's only challenging states that Biden recently won shows it's not about proof, it's just challenging the results because he doesn't like the results.

"America First"

Would that be the same America that has you about 3 million votes behind and counting in the popular and losing the electoral college as well, Donald?

Overheal

GA lead for Trump down to 14,765 now with 98% reporting.

y0ssar1an22

Deleted User wrote: »

His voters are motivated, maybe even more than Obama's supporters ever were. He tapped into a very dark side of the populace, and that won't just disappear.

cant speak for anyone else, but my reason for supporting him is that i fundamentally disagree with political correctness, cancel culture, all that sort of stuff that seems to be mainly the purview of the left. and he was willing to take that on. in a lot of ways i realise what a gob****e he is, but those above mentioned things are way beyond trumps bad points (IMO) and politics for that matter.

Doctor Jimbob

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Watching CNN earlier, they're might have been a mix up with mail in votes in PA - a couple thousand were sent out twice to voters, potentially leading to problems. Unsurprising the Republicans would challenge that. Everyone wants to see a fair count.

Everyone except Trump and his supporters, who are actively calling for counts to be stopped or continued depending on whether or not it benefits them.

tobefrank321

briany wrote: »

If Biden wins, and that's looking like a near certainty unless Trump can pull a huge political stroke, then it's not really an endorsement of him as much as it's an indictment of Trump. Biden would, in any normal election, be a massively whitebread uninspiring candidate. Just a basic old white guy who you figure will side with the big guy in the end. It's been enormously helpful for Biden that he's been running against a lot of people who are profoundly disturbed by Trump. Trump is as much of a conman as those he accused of being conmen in Washington and has no scruples about playing off fears to gain power. In terms of basic human decency, every American president I've seen looks to chart very high compared to Trump, no matter what their policies were. Trump just does not care.

I think Trump will be back, though, one way or the other, either himself or someone he's endorsed.

He's done him or the Republicans no favour long term by his efforts to stop the count or disenfranchise voters. That will be used against them in future elections.

The best way to win future elections is be gracious in defeat.

Phoebas

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Everyone wants to see a fair count.

If only one thing has been established in the last 36 hours by Trump, it is that that statement is untrue.

Penn

Just under 122k gap in PA now. Biden shrinking the gap again.

accensi0n

CNN still saying 60k remaining in GA. So was the 200k bogus?

is_that_so

Trump down to 121K lead in PA.

paleoperson

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Watching CNN earlier, they're might have been a mix up with mail in votes in PA - a couple thousand were sent out twice to voters, potentially leading to problems. Unsurprising the Republicans would challenge that. Everyone wants to see a fair count.

Sounds so dodgy. Wouldn't be surprised if some dems were desperate enough to try shenanigans, then pointing to Trump's personality and "the alt right" to try and dismiss calls of foul play.

ThunbergsAreGo

Overheal wrote: »

Recounts, conspiracies, lawsuits, it could be argued over for weeks, but yes for most people it will be a sign Trump's 18 year presidency is finally over.

Then relax and enjoy it

Each twist will only add it it

tobefrank321

Overheal wrote: »

GA lead for Trump down to 14,765 now with 98% reporting.

98% reported? He might just hold on. If there's 50k votes to count, and Biden wins them 75-25, that's about 37 to 12 or a gap of 25k. In that scenario Biden wins.

Tell me how

briany wrote: »

If Biden wins, and that's looking like a near certainty unless Trump can pull a huge political stroke, then it's not really an endorsement of him as much as it's an indictment of Trump. Biden would, in any normal election, be a massively whitebread uninspiring candidate. Just a basic old white guy who you figure will side with the big guy in the end. It's been enormously helpful for Biden that he's been running against a lot of people who are profoundly disturbed by Trump. Trump is as much of a conman as those he accused of being conmen in Washington and has no scruples about playing off fears to gain power. In terms of basic human decency, every American president I've seen looks to chart very high compared to Trump, no matter what their policies were. Trump just does not care.

Biden is running simply because of Trump. I favoured Sanders in January but given everything we have seen, I really believe it would have been just too easy to play the communism/socialism card there and I think that that would indeed have swung it for Trump.

Similarly with Warren I think he would have bullied her relentlessly and again, America isn't ready to see that for what it is.

Biden is not the best candidate the Democrats could have offered, but he is likely the only one who could have won this election.

briany wrote: »

I think Trump will be back, though, one way or the other, either himself or someone he's endorsed.

He will never run for office himself again.

I think it is more likely candidates with real aspirations for office of the President will look to distance themselves from him rather than seek his endorsement.

He has a history of endorsing candidates who have been beaten.

Penn

accensi0n wrote: »

CNN still saying 60k remaining in GA. So was the 200k bogus?

I think there's an issue with confusion between votes reported and votes counted. So I don't think we're entirely sure. I'd lean towards the lower figure though, as if it was 200k and votes kept going towards Biden at the rate they were, Biden would win fairly comfortably. I don't think anyone's expecting the GA result to be comfortable for anyone.

tobefrank321

paleoperson wrote: »

Sounds so dodgy. Wouldn't be surprised if some dems were desperate enough to try shenanigans, then pointing to Trump's personality and "the alt right" to try and dismiss calls of foul play.

I don't think it was deliberate irregularities, but its important that the losers don't have an unfounded gripe, otherwise you could see protests or worse.

Overheal

tobefrank321 wrote: »

98% reported? He might just hold on. If there's 50k votes to count, and Biden wins them 75-25, that's about 37 to 12 or a gap of 25k. In that scenario Biden wins.

Georgia is going to be squeaky.

cnocbui

Enquiring wrote: »

But Obama held the record up to then? More than Bush before him?

DYOR.

Sierra Oscar

Looking at the figures, I think Biden could be just shy of what he needs to overtake Trump.

In Georgia! Lol would help of me to say where.

tobefrank321

Phoebas wrote: »

If only one thing has been established in the last 36 hours by Trump, it is that that statement is untrue.

Well by everyone I mean the electorate. Don't care personally what Trump thinks.

But yes sinking to Trump's level in terms of vote rigging is not the answer.

Point I am making is vote counting authorities need to get it right and be above reproach, from either side. So far they are doing a great job.

y0ssar1an22

Overheal wrote: »

GA lead for Trump down to 14,765 now with 98% reporting.

assuming 98,903 left (based on 4,945,165 total):

remaining current lead
98,903.00 14,765.00
biden 0.575 56,869.23
trump 0.425 42,033.78


14,835.45


biden needs 57.5% of remaining to win

irishfeen

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Looking at the figures, I think Biden could be just shy of what he needs to overtake Trump.

IN Georgia! Lol would help of me to say where.

I tend to agree but I really hope he does take it to help the Republican Party turn their backs on Trump..

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

tobefrank321 wrote: »

98% reported? He might just hold on. If there's 50k votes to count, and Biden wins them 75-25, that's about 37 to 12 or a gap of 25k. In that scenario Biden wins.

I think 2% is around ~100k votes.

tobefrank321

accensi0n wrote: »

CNN still saying 60k remaining in GA. So was the 200k bogus?

If 60k left, and most would be mail in votes, Biden needs only a 60-40 break, which he should get.

Overheal

Georgia Court has no fcuks to spare for Trump's lawsuit alleging voter fraud which provides zero evidence of voter fraud

https://lawandcrime.com/awkward/georgia-judge-throws-out-trump-campaign-lawsuit-that-produced-exactly-zero-evidence-of-fraud/?fbclid=IwAR2IvUasj7bMf7KgHBTLfft8P0pQP2ZwyuK6_ZDWQ1i9Gq3CUh9sw1b-iRc

DeanAustin

Phoebas wrote: »

If only one thing has been established in the last 36 hours by Trump, it is that that statement is untrue.

It's bizarre stuff. His son has posted a video of election papers being burned. Gets 100,000 people liking it. Turns out that they were just sample papers. They are using anything they can to just sow a seed in the minds of people who want to believe this ****.

We have the President of the United States trying to stop votes being counted. That's something I thought I'd never see. It's beyond surreal.

We're now at the stage where the world is looking towards the White House with bated breath to see how the big child who occupies it reacts to an election. It's bonkers.

eagle eye

Overheal wrote:

You shut your mouth

The senate seats in Georgia.

vojiwox

https://twitter.com/NewsHour/status/1324389692037582850