Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

Donald Trump

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Registered vote doesn't mean everyone will vote. A lot of these estimates look fluid, up one minute down the next. But all he needs is 60k breaking 60-40 and he's fine.

They will know how many votes went through the postal system. They just haven't sorted them yet

DeanAustin

Quin_Dub wrote: »

What the actual F**k??



Hard to even know how to process that information..

It's unreal isn't it? I didn't know whether to laugh or despair. This woman is the spiritual advisor to Trump?

I've always found sections of America quite odd in their unshakable faith which seems to be intertwined with nationalism. In the US, they seem to think God is on the side of the USA and then they take it a bit further thinking God is on the side of Trump (or Biden). And that sort of misguided belief is pretty dangerous.

I know this country has had our issues with religion but I don't think we quite tied it to our pride in being Irish in the same way the US seem to.

ohnonotgmail

Quin_Dub wrote: »

What the actual F**k??



Hard to even know how to process that information..

bloody immigrants interfering in US democracy. Trump won't be happy with that.

namloc1980

Quin_Dub wrote: »

What the actual F**k??



Hard to even know how to process that information..

It'll be amazing once the whole Trump circus leaves town.

ohnonotgmail

DeanAustin wrote: »

It's unreal isn't it? I didn't know whether to laugh or despair. This woman is the spiritual advisor to Trump?

I've always found sections of America quite odd in their unshakable faith which seems to be intertwined with nationalism. In the US, they seem to think God is on the side of the USA and then they take it a bit further thinking God is on the side of Trump (or Biden). And that sort of misguided belief is pretty dangerous.

I know this country has had our issues with religion but I don't think we quite tied it to our pride in being Irish in the same way the US seem to.

the weirdest part is that trump has a spiritual advisor.

briany

Tell me how wrote: »

Biden is running simply because of Trump. I favoured Sanders in January but given everything we have seen, I really believe it would have been just too easy to play the communism/socialism card there and I think that that would indeed have swung it for Trump.

Similarly with Warren I think he would have bullied her relentlessly and again, America isn't ready to see that for what it is.

Biden is not the best candidate the Democrats could have offered, but he is likely the only one who could have won this election.

Yes, Biden's the type of guy who'd win votes from the middle America Democrat base. The ones further left would probably stomach voting for him because at least it would be a way to remove Trump, so he covers all the ground. I liked Bernie Sanders, but I agree, America is not ready for a truly centre-left candidate (not corporate Dem lite), nor will they ever be, probably, unless some major cultural shift takes place. Hard to see in a country of that size.

Tell me how wrote: »

He will never run for office himself again.

I think it is more likely candidates with real aspirations for office of the President will look to distance themselves from him rather than seek his endorsement.

He has a history of endorsing candidates who have been beaten.

I'm not sure how you can say Trump wouldn't run again. I mean, I think we've been surprised at what Trump will do or say, so playing the game of what Trump won't do is a risky one for a person's credibility as a political predictor. I can say with reasonable confidence that Trump probably won't be invited to the Clinton house for Thanksgiving dinner. I'm pretty sure he'll never shave his head. I don't know if he wouldn't run again. He's already floated the idea of a 3rd term in a jokey sort of manner during his campaign for this election just gone, so I don't think the idea of being president from 2024 to 2028 is necessarily unappealing. If the pending legal cases against him go ahead, he may simply not be able to physically run for President what with being in jail, or maybe age will catch up with him. But otherwise? The man is nothing if not incredibly stubborn and absolutely unable to let things go. If he can't claw things back in this election, he'll be looking for revenge of some sort, and running again would be the first possibility he looks, imo.

PalLimerick

Necro wrote: »

And simultaenously the baby man files a lawsuit

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/05/trump-campaign-expected-to-file-nevada-lawsuit-as-biden-gains-ground.html

Out of curiosity I thought there was no name calling such as Sleepy Joe or Orange Man and so on?

nacho libre

eagle eye wrote: »

It's not even close to over, it's looking good though.

It's a good as over Eagle Eye. By the way I see your county voted for Donald.

https://roscommonherald.ie/2020/11/04/roscommon-votes-for-trump/

Penn

Biden's new NV lead reduces to about 11.5k. Probably a lot of different reports from different counties coming in from NV.

jmayo

funnydoggy wrote: »

Trump's lawyers must be wrecked

If as a lawyer you hooked up with him in the 70s and managed to ar**lick him enough, win enough cases you could have put your kids through Harvard and have a home in the Hamptons.
Staying the course would be difficult though as he appears to be bit of a headbanger and it would be like selling your soul to the devil.

super_furry wrote: »

https://twitter.com/OxfordDiplomat/status/1324335412865863682?s=20

What a difference a decade makes.

This morning on RTE radio the US correspondent was on how Trump somehow didn't manage to get his voters out in Arizona.

He completed failed to mention that Arizona has become a lot more urban, a lot more educated people have moved to the state and one Cindy McCain actively campaigned for Joe Biden.

Shows how little RTE staff know about the US.

Also some are seeing it as John McCain screwing Trump from the grave.

There was a reason that Trump and Palin were not invited to his funeral, whereas Obama was asked to speak and Joe Biden was a pallbearer and spoke at service in Phoenix.

Kushner and Ivanka attended funeral and the McCains were not happy.
They would move heaven and earth to get rid of Trump.

8-10

eagle eye wrote: »

Biden lead in Nevada increased to 12k.
Up to a 1% lead now.

Gone down twice in subsequent counts to just under 11.5k

DrumSteve

briany wrote: »

Yes, Biden's the type of guy who'd win votes from the middle America Democrat base. The ones further left would probably stomach voting for him because at least it would be a way to remove Trump, so he covers all the ground. I liked Bernie Sanders, but I agree, America is not ready for a truly centre-left candidate (not corporate Dem lite), nor will they ever be, probably, unless some major cultural shift takes place. Hard to see in a country of that size.





I'm not sure how you can say Trump wouldn't run again. I mean, I think we've been surprised at what Trump will do or say, so playing the game of what Trump won't do is a risky one for a person's credibility as a political predictor. I can say with reasonable confidence that Trump probably won't be invited to the Clinton house for Thanksgiving dinner. I'm pretty sure he'll never shave his head. I don't know if he wouldn't run again. He's already floated the idea of a 3rd term in a jokey sort of manner during his campaign for this election just gone, so I don't think the idea of being president from 2024 to 2028 is necessarily unappealing. If the pending legal cases against him go ahead, he may simply not be able to physically run for President what with being in jail, or maybe age will catch up with him. But otherwise? The man is nothing if not incredibly stubborn and absolutely unable to let things go. If he can't claw things back in this election, he'll be looking for revenge of some sort, and running again would be the first possibility he looks, imo.

Don't be surprised to see those rallies keep going; albeit with a "modest" entrance fee.

Enquiring

Hopefully, there are enough Republicans able to move Trump on once the result is announced. He's embarrassing himself big time with his carry on but I'm sure he doesn't care.

screamer

Poor ould Trump, watched a documentary about him recently and basically it said he was brought up to take over his father’s empire and that meant he learned to win at any cost. Losing is not something he’s used to, so people strap yourselves in, cause the a Trump **** show is far from over, he’ll do everything and anything he can to delay, undermine and frustrate the very system that 4 years ago, declared him POTUS.

CharlesMartel

namloc1980 wrote: »

It'll be amazing once the whole Trump circus leaves town.

It will be very boring when the trump circus leaves down. back to under the radar lobbying and bland middle of the road stances while screwing your electorate. Trump is consistently entertaining if nothing else and has really shaken up the whole complacent system(good or bad it remains to be seen). Also hasn't use the American Army as a foreign negotiation tool like his predecessors and is prepared to try do a deal with anybody(korea for example) rather than the same old sanctions, bombing and occupations for "FREEDOM"

Graham

8-10 wrote: »

Gone down twice in subsequent counts to just under 11.5k

12,000 steps forward, 500 back.

I can live with that

Doctor Jimbob

Enquiring wrote: »

Hopefully, there are enough Republicans able to move Trump on once the result is announced. He's embarrassing himself big time with his carry on but I'm sure he doesn't care.

Embarrassing himself bigly, surely?

gmisk

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

the weirdest part is that trump has a spiritual advisor.

Not really it probably plays well to the devout christian vote

y0ssar1an22

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

biden trump

253 214

alaska 3 3
nevada 6 6
arizona 11 11
PA 20 20
georgia 16 16
NC 15 15

270 268

trump will need to win 4, and flip nevada. the chances are extremely remote for trump

this is the current state of affairs. if biden's lead in nevada has increased thats everything done and dusted. unless spiritual advisor pulls a rabbit out of a hat.

namloc1980

8-10 wrote: »

Gone down twice in subsequent counts to just under 11.5k

2 small rural counties updated their totals. The relatively tiny populations, outside Las Vegas and Reno, in Nevada are a problem for Trump.

Laois_Man

Kicking myself for having CNN playing in the background all day

Fox News is way more entertaining!!

https://video.foxnews.com/v/5614615980001#sp=watch-live

(May need a US IP Address)

screamer

That spiritual adviser seems to be as “special”
as trump is. I’m sure he listens to, and takes on board every word she says. Not

eagle eye

nacho libre wrote:

It's a good as over Eagle Eye. By the way I see your county voted for Donald.

I'm confident Biden will win it as he's winning big in Reno and Vegas but there's still 13% to be counted.

Btw, I'm not from there. Funny how Roscommon, Michigan voted Trump and Roscommon, Ireland voted against gay marriage though. They may have a lot in common.

Eduard Khil

Vote early vote often always was the corner stone of rural American politics.

namloc1980

Laois_Man wrote: »

Kicking myself for having CNN playing in the background all day

Fox News is way more entertaining!!

https://video.foxnews.com/v/5614615980001#sp=watch-live

(May need a US IP Address)

Too many talking heads on Fox with their whacky opinions. John King at the big board is much better.

Necro

PalLimerick wrote: »

Out of curiosity I thought there was no name calling such as Sleepy Joe or Orange Man and so on?

How else would you describe the actions of someone who is actively trying to stop counting in states he is losing?

AVFC.Stephen

Why is it only fox news that have biden on 264

is_that_so

For NV updates.

https://twitter.com/RalstonReports/status/1324400878770507776

Overheal

AVFC.Stephen wrote: »

Why is it only fox news that have biden on 264

They want Trump out :pac:

They called Arizona the other day for Biden. Could flip though.

namloc1980

AVFC.Stephen wrote: »

Why is it only fox news that have biden on 264

They declared Arizona for Biden very early.