Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

Penn

Trump loses Michigan case looking for counting of ballots to be stopped.

namloc1980

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Does anyone know the ins and outs of this?

It's odd that the Democrats are fighting against observers being present. Has it something to do with observers having to be bipartisan, or what? Strange one. It's feeding the Trump fanatics and I can see why.

Because among the observers the Trump campaign have sent are Eric Trump, Lara Trump and Pam Bondi. This is done purely as an intimidation tactic of the count staff by the Trump campaign by sending those as "observers".

Quin_Dub

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Does anyone know the ins and outs of this?

It's odd that the Democrats are fighting against observers being present. Has it something to do with observers having to be bipartisan, or what? Strange one. It's feeding the Trump fanatics and I can see why.

They aren't, they are fighting against the GOP having literally hundreds of "observers" who were shouting and disrupting things left and right.

From what I understand between all candidates they were allowed 131 observers (no idea why such an odd number) but literally hundreds of people on the GOP side turned up demanding entrance.

They were all refused and then they all starting trying to video in the windows etc. - Which is an offence , only the official people are allowed be there and see stuff.

So the election staff blocked the windows.

The GOP are now saying that they are "hiding" stuff.. even though they have dozens of staff inside already.

It's flinging turds in all directions to stir things up and cause trouble so that some Judge will eventually just go "ah lads , this is getting silly , let's just go with the result we have"

Think Brooks Brother riot on Social Media.

Phoebas

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Does anyone know the ins and outs of this?

It's odd that the Democrats are fighting against observers being present. Has it something to do with observers having to be bipartisan, or what? Strange one. It's feeding the Trump fanatics and I can see why.

I don't know, but there were a number of observers ejected from the/a count centre in PA yesterday because they were getting in faces of the counters who were feeling intimidated.
If its the view of the Democrats that the goal of these observers is not simply to observe, but to intimidate, then I can see why they might object. There is also a process to follow to become an observer - you can't just turn up en masse and expect to get in.

Kermit.de.frog

Zero ****s given by Twitter anymore with Trump. Censoring everything.

is_that_so

Penn wrote: »

Trump loses Michigan case looking for counting of ballots to be stopped.

That's 3 losses to 1 "massive" win so far!

Call Me Jimmy

wes wrote: »

Also, there is a pandemic, too many people who are too close could endanger people health. We already seen Trump rallies become super spreader events.

The order says to follow covid guidelines.

jjmcclure

namloc1980 wrote: »

Because among the observers the Trump campaign have sent are Eric Trump, Lara Trump and Pam Bondi. This is done purely as an intimidation tactic of the count staff by the Trump campaign by sending those as "observers".

This.


A number of Trump observers were removed from count centers due to them intimidating the staff.

BobbyMalone

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Think Brooks Brother riot on Social Media.

I think that's the key point with all that - they don't want a repeat of what happened with Bush.

Kermit.de.frog

jjmcclure wrote: »

This.


A number of Trump observers were removed from count centers due to them intimidating the staff.

It's like a mob boss sending out his goons.

road_high

Laois_Man wrote: »

I'd say yer man heading up the count in Clark County is an absolute bastard to work for!

Ridiculously Rude and surly- if you can’t answer a few simple questions then piss off and let someone else do the job.
Following this the big difference I can see is the humour removal most Americans seem to have. Bad enough as our media might be they’d at least draw some honour from it and lighter moments with a bit of deprecation

PopePalpatine

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Looks like Democrats are trying to hide something they should be delighted in having observers if they are confident Biden has the votes! Believe Biden is so popular dead people are voting from the grave for him!

The last sting of 234,000+ dying wasps (and counting).

drogon.

Looks like a lot of accusation without any proof.

https://twitter.com/elistokols/status/1324397101216862209?s=21

hatrickpatrick

Good NYT article on what's happening in Arizona:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/05/upshot/arizona-election-call.html

y0ssar1an22

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Zero ****s given by Twitter anymore with Trump. Censoring everything.

that aint on really. censoring! are we in 1984?

what did he say?

Doctors room ghost

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Looks like Democrats are trying to hide something they should be delighted in having observers if they are confident Biden has the votes! Believe Biden is so popular dead people are voting from the grave for him!

John McCain is anyway

drunkmonkey

Graham wrote: »

50401 votes, assuming they all go to Biden/Trump

2436015 +36% 18144 2454159
2422467 +64% 32257 2454724 +565

There another one on Donnies Nuke list if that happens....

y0ssar1an22

is_that_so wrote: »

That's 3 losses to 1 "massive" win so far!

what was the win?

ChikiChiki

drogon. wrote: »

Looks like a lot of accusation without any proof.

https://twitter.com/elistokols/status/1324397101216862209?s=21

They have no evidence. The goal is clearly to stoke tensions. This is turning closer towards a really dangerous scenario.

kilns

ChikiChiki wrote: »

They have no evidence. The goal is clearly to stoke tensions. This is turning closer towards a really dangerous scenario.

Yes this is total House of Cards stuff

Penn

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

that aint on really. censoring! are we in 1984?

what did he say?

It's not censoring. It's adding a warning to his tweets which contain false information about the election where you have to click View to read the tweet.

robinph

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

that aint on really. censoring! are we in 1984?

what did he say?

Lies basically.

Call Me Jimmy

Quin_Dub wrote: »

They aren't, they are fighting against the GOP having literally hundreds of "observers" who were shouting and disrupting things left and right.

From what I understand between all candidates they were allowed 131 observers (no idea why such an odd number) but literally hundreds of people on the GOP side turned up demanding entrance.

They were all refused and then they all starting trying to video in the windows etc. - Which is an offence , only the official people are allowed be there and see stuff.

So the election staff blocked the windows.

The GOP are now saying that they are "hiding" stuff.. even though they have dozens of staff inside already.

It's flinging turds in all directions to stir things up and cause trouble so that some Judge will eventually just go "ah lads , this is getting silly , let's just go with the result we have"

Think Brooks Brother riot on Social Media.

The order has nothing to do with who is an observer or allowed to observe, it is simply about how close observers can get.

Kermit.de.frog

https://twitter.com/abbydphillip/status/1324420177983873027

y0ssar1an22

ChikiChiki wrote: »

They have no evidence. The goal is clearly to stoke tensions. This is turning closer towards a really dangerous scenario.

i will preface this by saying i dont know.

but if the republicans haven't been allowed to observe the votes, its near impossible to prove anything.

so the question is really, have all voting processes been followed correctly?

if yes, no problem.
if no, a problem.

is_that_so

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

what was the win?

That nonsense about the observers in PA, being appealed according to a poster upthread.

Padre_Pio

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

that aint on really. censoring! are we in 1984?

what did he say?

I don't think 1984 had factcheck warnings like Twitter.

It had doublespeak, like Donny and the Reps are masters of though.

y0ssar1an22

robinph wrote: »

Lies basically.

do twitter censor lies?

Kermit.de.frog

Call Me Jimmy

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

do twitter censor lies?

Apparently they censor things that are disputed