Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

mcmoustache

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

a you a law student?

it is all over when it's over.

Which is, of time of posting, not.

fin12

J2CVC wrote: »

They have nominated onlookers from both parties in the building, keeping an eye on things up close. I'm not sure why they blocked the windows but it was tough enough for the admin staff without an armed mob banging on the windows, so maybe that.

Well I can definitely agree, it is a tough job.

paleoperson

It's not "over" but we're 3-0 down and there's 10 minutes to go.

jammiedodgers

Can a recount be requested in Georgia? I read something earlier about a 1% difference being required, does that apply to all states?

y0ssar1an22

jammiedodgers wrote: »

Can a recount be requested in Georgia? I read something earlier about a 1% difference being required, does that apply to all states?

no, different states have different rules

J2CVC

paleoperson wrote: »

It's not "over" but we're 3-0 down and there's 10 minutes to go.

I think it's only 2-0 down. I'm waiting/hoping for the third goal before going to bed!

namloc1980

Remember all those posters saying that there was no enthusiasm for Biden and no interest in his campaign. When all is said and done and all votes counted he'll have nearly 80m votes! Unreal.

namloc1980

jammiedodgers wrote: »

Can a recount be requested in Georgia? I read something earlier about a 1% difference being required, does that apply to all states?

Automatic recount in Georgia if its less than 0.5% I believe, which it will be.

Tippex

jammiedodgers wrote: »

Can a recount be requested in Georgia? I read something earlier about a 1% difference being required, does that apply to all states?

No doesn’t apply to all states. There is no consistency to the rules in each state

~Rebel~

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

biden won?

Nah, that's the difference between them now - 1902.

Biden will pass to take the lead over the next few hours. It can't really be called as a state though since it's so close, with provisional votes and military votes to come (no idea which way they will break).

And will almost certainly be recounted regardless who wins since the gap is so tiny.

Likely, by the time there is clarity on Georgia it'll be irrelevant, with Biden having taken PA by then.

jill_valentine

jammiedodgers wrote: »

Can a recount be requested in Georgia? I read something earlier about a 1% difference being required, does that apply to all states?

Not in every state, but in Georgia the point is 0.5 of a difference when you can request one, and everyone does.

Historically though, recounts very, very rarely change outcomes unless you're talking about literally 100 votes or less or if there has been extreme shenanigans (eg Florida once upon a time)

What tends to happen is the bockity votes are equal on both sides and cancel each other out. Recount requests are sort of a token face saving gesture. I expect one in Georgia, but I don't expect it to change anything.

sondagefaux

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

biden won?

That's Trump's lead now. It was about 300,000 yesterday.

Still votes to be counted, most from areas that will favour Biden.

y0ssar1an22

jammiedodgers wrote: »

Can a recount be requested in Georgia? I read something earlier about a 1% difference being required, does that apply to all states?

but yes, georgia have no laws. so of the electors give their vote to trump, that's their vote.

wont happen though

bb12

jammiedodgers wrote: »

Can a recount be requested in Georgia? I read something earlier about a 1% difference being required, does that apply to all states?

the rule is that a candidate must reach 50% of the vote + 1 or else a runoff election needs to be held

paleoperson

bb12 wrote: »

the rule is that a candidate must reach 50% of the vote + 1 or else a runoff election needs to be held

No way...? Why wouldn't they have said this on CNN?

That's only for the senate.

Tippex

bb12 wrote: »

the rule is that a candidate must reach 50% of the vote + 1 or else a runoff election needs to be held

I believe that is only for the senate and the house not in the presidential elections

jill_valentine

Sandor Clegane wrote: »

Where are people getting their confidence from regarding it being a Biden victory already?

He has an insurmountable advantage in the remaining tranche of votes in PA, which hands him the EC votes he needs. He has a decent chance at additional states as a bonus.

Trumps cabinet seem to have started resigning and Don Jr is talking about 2024. Even the Rs know it's over.

mcmoustache

namloc1980 wrote: »

Reminder all those posters saying that there was no enthusiasm for Biden and no interest in his campaign. When all is said and done and all votes counted he'll have nearly 80m votes! Unreal.

It's a reflection of how shíte Trump was.


But, oddly enough, Biden comes with actual policies on a website. There was some guy repetitively posting "What are Biden's policies" earlier but he never thought to turn his question into a google search. It's a shame really. If he had figured out that he could google such things, he might have been less confused.

J2CVC

namloc1980 wrote: »

Reminder all those posters saying that there was no enthusiasm for Biden and no interest in his campaign. When all is said and done and all votes counted he'll have nearly 80m votes! Unreal.

I think everyone thought Biden just had to keep quiet and Trump would lose it himself. I don't think anybody expected Trump to get so many votes this time.

But a lot of Trump's voters are racist or less educated, and a lot of that demographic won't change.

HDMI

J2CVC wrote: »

But a lot of Trump's voters are racist or less educated, and a lot of that demographic won't change.

Extremely ignorant comment

y0ssar1an22

J2CVC wrote: »

I think everyone thought Biden just had to keep quiet and Trump would lose it himself. I don't think anybody expected Trump to get so many votes this time.

But a lot of Trump's voters are racist or less educated, and a lot of that demographic won't change.

thats pretty much what happened, if trump wasn't so belligerent in the 1st debate he would have won.

fin12

HDMI wrote: »

Extremely ignorant comment

Exactly.

J2CVC

HDMI wrote: »

Extremely ignorant comment

You mightn't like it but studies have shown that and we might as well talk facts. Trump really doesn't do well with those with higher education.

Tippex

mcmoustache wrote: »

It's a reflection of how shíte Trump was.


But, oddly enough, Biden comes with actual policies on a website. There was some guy repetitively posting "What are Biden's policies" earlier but he never thought to turn his question into a google search. It's a shame really. If he had figured out that he could google such things, he might have been less confused.

I think that poster was on the windup just to see if other posters could rattle them off but nobody engaged. They were well aware that he has them on his site.

HDMI

J2CVC wrote: »

Sorry but studies have shown that.

Your kidding right? Can't even get a poll right to decide how conservatives votes will vote but you have a study showing they are ignorant uneducated racist.... Like I said ignorant comment.

y0ssar1an22

HDMI wrote: »

Extremely ignorant comment

engage in the comment surely?

what was ignorant?




ETA: cancel the above

jill_valentine

A point to make -

A Biden Administration will get to appoint the next Postmaster General, the Florida re-enfranchisement measures will have bedded in, postal voting is now in place for a lot of people who hadn't done it before, and there’s still a decent possibility of snagging the senate and re establishing some kind of Voting Rights Act replacement in time for 2024.

Additionally, a LOT of the groundgame established this election will be there to use - the Georgia gains this time are almost entirely credited to Stacy Abrams, for example, and I think we'll see lots more like her.

I worry the GOP will find a less unhinged figurehead than Trump to get their weird agendas in next time, but there's reason to believe too that the Dems have some useful stuff to take forward from this in preparation.

Strumms

HDMI wrote: »

Extremely ignorant comment

It wasn’t ignorant, rather then tackle issues head on with honesty, intelligence and intellect, he whips up fear and mistrust. The better educated can see through that.

J2CVC

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

thats pretty much what happened, if trump wasn't so belligerent in the 1st debate he would have won.

He was certainly a lot better in the second. Biden isn't a great debater and I think Trump messed up a bit that first time. I think the voters who that act would attract were voting for him already.

y0ssar1an22

jill_valentine wrote: »

A point to make -

A Biden Administration will get to appoint the next Postmaster General, the Florida re-enfranchisement measures will have bedded in, postal voting is now in place for a lot of people who hadn't done it before, and there’s still a decent possibility of snagging the senate and re establishing some kind of Voting Rights Act replacement in time for 2024.

Additionally, a LOT of the groundgame established this election will be there to use - the Georgia gains this time are almost entirely credited to Stacy Abrams, for example, and I think we'll see lots more like her.

I worry the GOP will find a less unhinged figurehead than Trump to get their weird agendas in next time, but there's reason to believe too that the Dems have some useful stuff to take forward from this in preparation.

what policies do you expect from joe?