Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

HDMI

Strumms wrote: »

It wasn’t ignorant, rather then tackle issues head on with honesty, intelligence and intellect, he whips up fear and mistrust.

Oddly the vote he would want for Biden is coming from the poorest parts of Atlanta where education is a real problem. So I guess each side will take their share of the "less educated voters"

y0ssar1an22

J2CVC wrote: »

He was certainly a lot better in the second. Biden isn't a great debater and I think Trump messed up a bit that first time. I think the voters who that act would attract were voting for him already.

for what reason? i've asked this maybe 5 times about why people voted for biden...what are his policies that you support?

J2CVC

HDMI wrote: »

Your kidding right? Can't even get a poll right to decide how conservatives votes will vote but you have a study showing they are ignorant uneducated racist.... Like I said ignorant comment.

It can't be ignorant if there are studies showing it, no matter how much you don't like it.

Morathi

I do love that despite the title, this thread may reach 10,000 before a winner is announced. :pac:

Strumms

HDMI wrote: »

Oddly the vote he would want for Biden is coming from the poorest parts of Atlanta where education is a real problem. So I guess each side will take their share of the "less educated voters"

You can receive and have access to education but that doesn’t mean you are an educated person.

~Rebel~

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

thats pretty much what happened, if trump wasn't so belligerent in the 1st debate he would have won.

I really don't think that's true. The debates tend to not actually make any real difference, with both sets of followers claiming victory for their candidate regardless of performance. Trump showed nothing in that debate he hasn't shown a million times before - and as belligerent as he was, I doubt he actually lost anyone as a result of it. The biggest relevance of those debates really were to see if Biden would collapse - once he was grand, the status quo was maintained.

I believe the actual viewing figures for people watching more than a few minutes of that first debate were particularly low too.

J2CVC

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

for what reason? i've asked this maybe 5 times about why people voted for biden...what are his policies that you support?

If there were no Trump fans on tonight I'd be disappointed. Most have gone quiet but thanks for still flying that flag, for my entertainment if nothing else.

Chris_Heilong

HDMI

J2CVC wrote: »

It can't be ignorant if there are studies showing it, no matter how much you don't like it.

So if someone puts out a study you automatically take it as fact?

Sorry it's only a study and not much different than a poll and probably depending on who done the study will have very little fact.

J2CVC

~Rebel~ wrote: »

I really don't think that's true. The debates tend to not actually make any real difference, with both sets of followers claiming victory for their candidate regardless of performance. Trump showed nothing in that debate he hasn't shown a million times before - and as belligerent as he was, I doubt he actually lost anyone as a result of it. The biggest relevance of those debates really were to see if Biden would collapse - once he was grand, the status quo was maintained.

I believe the actual viewing figures for people watching more than a few minutes of that first debate were particularly low too.

I think the thinking is that yes he's not going to lose anyone, but by acting less belligerent than usual he may have won a few voters.

namloc1980

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

what policies do you expect from joe?

What were the policies and plans that Trump had for a possible 2nd term?

Tell me how

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

for what reason? i've asked this maybe 5 times about why people voted for biden...what are his policies that you support?

Which of Biden's policies do you disagree with, and why?

US2

J2CVC wrote: »

If there were no Trump fans on tonight I'd be disappointed. Most have gone quiet but thanks for still flying that flag, for my entertainment if nothing else.

Can you answer his question or what ?

J2CVC

HDMI wrote: »

So if someone puts out a study you automatically take it as fact?

Sorry it's only a study and not much different than a poll and probably depending on who done the study will have very little fact.

I follow the science. And this is where I suspect we will differ.

~Rebel~

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

for what reason? i've asked this maybe 5 times about why people voted for biden...what are his policies that you support?

Considering he's running as the de-facto "not trump", as someone who won't be so divisive and destructive to american communities, for a lot of people that is enough.

Personally, his movement on climate alone is enough for me, and probably a lot of others I'd imagine. Everything else is short term annoyance, stuff that gets rolled back and reenacted term after term, but climate is the one thing we're running out of time on - it's my number 1 issue anyway. I'd rather Biden even be pushing much more on it, but of the two he's still the more active, and the one who's party actually recognises the scale of the issue.

US2

Tell me how wrote: »

Which of Biden's policies do you disagree with, and why?

You don't answer a question with a question.

J2CVC

US2 wrote: »

Can you answer his question or what ?

Oh I definitely could yeah.

US2

J2CVC wrote: »

Oh I definitely could yeah.

You just have to Google his policies first yeah, otherwise you'd have answered.

y0ssar1an22

J2CVC wrote: »

If there were no Trump fans on tonight I'd be disappointed. Most have gone quiet but thanks for still flying that flag, for my entertainment if nothing else.

lets wish those a merry sleep.

what flag is still flying? and why are you entertained it?

Tell me how

US2 wrote: »

You don't answer a question with a question.

Read the thread. This poster has been answered, he just doesn't like it.

He's like a Japanese guy fighting on an island in the pacific years after WWII finished.

HDMI

J2CVC wrote: »

I follow the science. And this is where I suspect we will differ.

You should have said it's science in the first place because that makes it more believable... What tripe

J2CVC

US2 wrote: »

You just have to Google his policies first yeah, otherwise you'd have answered.

You're as sharp as a tack US2.

~Rebel~

J2CVC wrote: »

I think the thinking is that yes he's not going to lose anyone, but by acting less belligerent than usual he may have won a few voters.

Really? I doubt that... I really don't think him being a little less rude in a debate was going to draw in anyone that is still somehow ok with such classics as; "grab 'em by the pussy".

We've had four years of belligerence, along with a lifetime before that. An alright debate is not changing anything there.

y0ssar1an22

Tell me how wrote: »

Which of Biden's policies do you disagree with, and why?

his idea to raise corporation tax to pay for people who dont work.

please tell me thats no true?

Tippex

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

what policies do you expect from joe?

Will you quit it with this question this is about the 15th time you have asked it tonight

paleoperson

There is zero reason why not to call Georgia and Pennsylvania at this point. The writing is on the wall. It's like they're almost playing with Trump and his supporters at this point - put them out of their misery.

jill_valentine

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Considering he's running as the de-facto "not trump", as someone who won't be so divisive and destructive to american communities, for a lot of people that is enough.

Personally, his movement on climate alone is enough for me, and probably a lot of others I'd imagine. Everything else is short term annoyance, stuff that gets rolled back and reenacted term after term, but climate is the one thing we're running out of time on - it's my number 1 issue anyway. I'd rather Biden even be pushing much more on it, but of the two he's still the more active, and the one who's party actually recognises the scale of the issue.

Climate's a big one. His Covid measures and CDC engagement is really major for me also. His tax propositions are pretty solid.

The fact he isn't going to install SC judges who consider people like me fundamentally distorted human beings, that's pretty great. The fact his VC isn't a Dominionist crank who hates women, also significant. The fact he won't stack his foreign affairs mechanisms with Evangelical Endtimers who believe war in the Middle East is a religious aspiration, also good.

And just for fun, his pledge to form a task force to reunite the ICE orphans is a significant sentimental one.

nolivesmatter

Tell me how wrote: »

Read the thread. This poster has been answered, he just doesn't like it.

He's like a Japanese guy fighting on an island in the pacific years after WWII finished.

lol wouldn't have expected that from you. Funny though.

Tell me how

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

his idea to raise corporation tax to pay for people who dont work.

please tell me thats no true?

It's not true.

y0ssar1an22

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

what policies do you expect from joe?

Precisely the same ones that led to Trump.