Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

Mantis Toboggan

Overheal wrote: »

Definitely. Too early too call yet. This is the state of things based on races called/toss-ups according to associated press.

Better than expected then, I thought this would be fairly one way listening to the news last night.

ExMachina1000

Dressoutlet wrote: »

Can someone explain, in layman terms for the dumb blonde posting (me, I'm not dumb, just using a stereotype) why the election is not won by votes.
Theres 5 million votes. One person gets 251 million votes, the other gets 249 million votes, then whoever has the most votes win.
Why do they do it different states? And not the whole Country

Because heavily populated areas like Texas and new york would decide every election. People living in rural states wouldn't get a say.

Overheal

Dressoutlet wrote: »

Can someone explain, in layman terms for the dumb blonde posting (me, I'm not dumb, just using a stereotype) why the election is not won by votes.
Theres 5 million votes. One person gets 251 million votes, the other gets 249 million votes, then whoever has the most votes win.
Why do they do it different states? And not the whole Country

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajavsMbCapY

Baggly

Sweet.Science wrote: »

The fact you guys still are convincing yourselves sleepy Joe will win

Bless

I can show you my research and analysis . It's over

Mod

Dont post in this thread again.

Danno

readyletsgo wrote: »

Maybe I'm (most likely) stupid, but why do reporters say that in some areas they have 'shut down counting now because its clear Trump has won'?

If Trump is ahead by 6,000 votes and there are only 5,000 left to count. Why bother?

ArmaniJeanss

Dressoutlet wrote: »

Can someone explain, in layman terms for the dumb blonde posting (me, I'm not dumb, just using a stereotype) why the election is not won by votes.
Theres 5 million votes. One person gets 251 million votes, the other gets 249 million votes, then whoever has the most votes win.
Why do they do it different states? And not the whole Country

Its effectively to stop bullying by larger population centres/states. It forces the candidates to fight for votes in the smaller states, as those states have slightly more electoral college votes proportionally to population than the bigger states.
It keeps the concept that this is a country of united states rather than just one block of people.

That's the reasoning, I'm not defending it or supporting it.

lawrencesummers

Dressoutlet wrote: »

Can someone explain, in layman terms for the dumb blonde posting (me, I'm not dumb, just using a stereotype) why the election is not won by votes.
Theres 5 million votes. One person gets 251 million votes, the other gets 249 million votes, then whoever has the most votes win.
Why do they do it different states? And not the whole Country

Different states have more votes that go towards the 270 electoral college votes that are needed to be elected.
CA has 55
NC has 15

It doesn’t get divided on population.

DrPhilG

Question...

Everyone seems to be counting that Pennsylvania will go to Biden because of the 2.2m mail ballots.

But from what I read here overnight, the breakdown of those votes by registration is approx:
1.2m - Dem
600k - Rep
400k - Ind

Well first of all, Trump leads by 675k. If all the registered Dems vote as expected, they lead by 525k. But then the 600k Rep votes if they back their man takes them back into the lead. It falls to the 400k independent votes.

And the elephant in the room is Biden's views on fracking. Will that sway the independent vote towards Trump? Could it even swing some of the Dem registered voters against Joe?

Cienciano

Overheal wrote: »

So which bookies are paying out already?

Whichever bookie decides the payout is less than what the coverage they get is worth

Overheal

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Better than expected then, I thought this would be fairly one way listening to the news last night.

There was loads of optimism about the colossal early turnout. More early votes were cast in Texas than in all of 2016, and they tended to be by registered democrats and independents more so than republicans.

c0rk3r

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Paddy Power offering me a grand to cash out since last night, I'll hold on for rest Paddy thank you very much..

You got a screenshot ?

Akesh

Still way too early to call but I think some people are wishful thinking that every postal ballot is going to be a blue ticket for Biden.

Regardless of what happens now, it's a terrible result for the Democrats to potentially lose to Trump twice. Of course the deplorables will be blamed but Biden should have campaigned on more than "I'm not Trump". I suspect lessons won't be learned again.

landofthetree

DrPhilG wrote: »

Question...

Everyone seems to be counting that Pennsylvania will go to Biden because of the 2.2m mail ballots.

But from what I read here overnight, the breakdown of those votes by registration is approx:
1.2m - Dem
600k - Rep
400k - Ind

Well first of all, Trump leads by 675k. If all the registered Dems vote as expected, they lead by 525k. But then the 600k Rep votes if they back their man takes them back into the lead. It falls to the 400k independent votes.

And the elephant in the room is Biden's views on fracking. Will that sway the independent vote towards Trump? Could it even swing some of the Dem registered voters against Joe?

Biden has no chance in Pennsylvania. Your logic is correct.

CNN have just admitted it. Expect RTE to admit it as well in around a week.

funnydoggy

pjohnson

Dressoutlet wrote: »

Can someone explain, in layman terms for the dumb blonde posting (me, I'm not dumb, just using a stereotype) why the election is not won by votes.
Theres 5 million votes. One person gets 251 million votes, the other gets 249 million votes, then whoever has the most votes win.
Why do they do it different states? And not the whole Country

Country folks opinions are more important than city folk.


Its a mad system tbf.

CharlesMartel

Danno wrote: »

If Trump is ahead by 6,000 votes and there are only 5,000 left to count. Why bother?

So the demoratic officials in a democrat sub election district can find 2000 Biden votes stuffed down the back of the sofa, or look at the spoiled votes and declare some of em for Biden

Bonniedog

PokeHerKing wrote: »

None of the big US stations are calling Arianna yet. Where are people on here seeing that?

Because it was called hours ago in an attempt to put off Republicans who were still queuing.

Dr. Bre

MAGA!

Sweet.Science

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I hope you'll be ok when the Donald loses because of the postal service.

Haha . Must be near the last straw to be clutched

Mod

1 day forum ban for breach of threadban.

Overheal

DrPhilG wrote: »

Question...

Everyone seems to be counting that Pennsylvania will go to Biden because of the 2.2m mail ballots.

But from what I read here overnight, the breakdown of those votes by registration is approx:
1.2m - Dem
600k - Rep
400k - Ind

Well first of all, Trump leads by 675k. If all the registered Dems vote as expected, they lead by 525k. But then the 600k Rep votes if they back their man takes them back into the lead. It falls to the 400k independent votes.

And the elephant in the room is Biden's views on fracking. Will that sway the independent vote towards Trump? Could it even swing some of the Dem registered voters against Joe?

That's the great unanswered question.

paw patrol

hooray for Darth Cheeto


This is looking great

AlphaDelta1

Liberals in meltdown

landofthetree

Overheal wrote: »

That's the great unanswered question.

It's why bookies have Trump at 2/5 to win.

munsterlegend

Dressoutlet wrote: »

Can someone explain, in layman terms for the dumb blonde posting (me, I'm not dumb, just using a stereotype) why the election is not won by votes.
Theres 5 million votes. One person gets 251 million votes, the other gets 249 million votes, then whoever has the most votes win.
Why do they do it different states? And not the whole Country

Each state gets a certain amount of electoral college votes based on a census held every 10 years. So if you win a state you get all the votes of that state and not a proportion based on how much of the vote you won in the state. So in Florida trump gets all 29 electoral votes even though he only just won it. Biden gets nothing though he got close to winning it. The first to 270 wins.

Cheerful Spring2

Akesh wrote: »

Still way too early to call but I think some people are wishful thinking that every postal ballot is going to be a blue ticket for Biden.

Regardless of what happens now, it's a terrible result for the Democrats to potentially lose to Trump twice. Of course the deplorables will be blamed but Biden should have campaigned on more than "I'm not Trump". I suspect lessons won't be learned again.

This just goes to show you how far media personalities and pollsters will lie to get their candidate over the line. Hope this a wake up call for people.

Percentages for Biden winning pre Election made no sense, whole many people believed it.

Pa ElGrande

If you want to create your own fantasy US presidential election map here you go.

If you want to see how things stand in the US right about now here you go

ChikiChiki

Bonniedog wrote: »

Ooh, the liberals are throwing a strop!

Well, banning people and cancelling other views in the States didn't work for you did it?

Sums up the support base:rolleyes:

8-10

Yeah I think Trump wins PA now

WI, AZ, NV and MI still up in the air

I expect GA and NC go to Trump but there's an outside chance.

I think Trump will win but still top many unknown given how close it is and how low reporting numbers are in some key counties

votecounts

Trump back into 2/5

Fakediamond

Harry Palmr wrote: »

The likes of Nebraska and the Dakotas have three people in them. Very small parts of the electoral college

Yes I know, but it still looks shocking, especially when you see big states like Florida showing red. I know it’s not over yet, but it’s concerning...