USA Election - Who would you vote for? POLL

_Brian

ARGINITE wrote: »

So yes Trump continued on more than one current war the US are involved in.

Will Biden do better only time will tell, neither of them are a saint but Biden admits to his mistakes and attempt to fix them.

America is a warmongering state and always has been. Don’t be expecting any changes there.

whisky_galore

Panch18 wrote: »

Isn't that how all politics the world over works

Is being a race baiting scumbag how politics the world over works too?

Panch18

whisky_galore wrote: »

Is being a race baiting scumbag how politics the world over works too?

You are outraged by his "race baiting" and yet millions of black people voted for him

_Brian

whisky_galore wrote: »

Is being a race baiting scumbag how politics the world over works too?

I can’t fathom how people can hear the things trump has saod, see the mocking of the disabled, his disparaging remarks of us army veterans all these things. And still blindly support him.

He’s a truly awful human, I really can’t think of one single redeeming characteristic he has. When half a nation want this sort of character representing them on the world stage it just shows how much trouble America is really in.

_Brian

Panch18 wrote: »

You are outraged by his "race baiting" and yet millions of black people voted for him

Black peoples aren’t all immune to lies and propaganda.

Panch18

_Brian wrote: »

Black peoples aren’t all immune to lies and propaganda.

Neither are a huge amount of white people it seems

Or maybe us clowns over on this fair isle have absolutely no clue about how America is, how it works, or what it's people want.

_Brian

Panch18 wrote: »

Neither are a huge amount of white people it seems

Or maybe us clowns over on this fair isle have absolutely no clue about how America is, how it works, or what it's people want.

That’s the thing.
Trump worst work wasn’t through slight of hand or covert.

His own words directly from his mouth aren’t propaganda.

https://youtu.be/PX9reO3QnUA

This behaviour isn’t propaganda.

It’s the president of the US mocking a disabled person who called him out on his lies.

This is one of countless examples of his deplorable attitudes towards people who challenge his lies and bigotry

K.G.

While much has been made of the race divide, the other striking thing is the rural urban divide. From what i have seen its trump for rural areas and biden for urban.

gk5000

whisky_galore wrote: »

Biden, as the best of a bad lot. If only the Dems had a better, perhaps younger candidate to work with.

Trump is good at fooling your average US blue collar worker, who isn't terribly intelligent to begin with.

I think your post sums up why Trump was elected in 2016.
The average blue collar worker and many others are fed up being insulted, especially by the liberal elite.

Trump may be in many ways abhorrent, but he has hit a vein that is continually neglected, insulted and condesended to. Many pro-Biden do not realise this.

Lime Tree Farm

Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »

What's their gender got to do with it?

Did you call Clinton a creepy old woman?

I think he was more renowned for creeping up on women.

patsy_mccabe

_Brian

I wonder in a scale of one to a gazillion how much is this infuriating Trump ??

https://ibb.co/4gzvMRK

ganmo

Thank feck trump has no military experience, he has no leverage otherwise a coup would be a more realistic possibility. He has the money other people have given him(the campaign) and his current shakey position

_Brian

ganmo wrote: »

Thank feck trump has no military experience, he has no leverage otherwise a coup would be a more realistic possibility. He has the money other people have given him(the campaign) and his current shakey position

Those heel spurs thwart him yet again

Suckler

ganmo wrote: »

Thank feck trump has no military experience, he has no leverage otherwise a coup would be a more realistic possibility. He has the money other people have given him(the campaign) and his current shakey position

Given a lot of Americans are "military families" I thought his comments on calling WW1 (or WW2?) soldiers "suckers" would have buried him.

JohnnyKq

ganmo wrote: »

Thank feck trump has no military experience, he has no leverage otherwise a coup would be a more realistic possibility. He has the money other people have given him(the campaign) and his current shakey position

Trump grew up with a silver spoon in his mouth and the arrogance he shows replays that privileged background.
United States of America should be renamed American Divided States after this election

patsy_mccabe

https://twitter.com/buttmunchsomer/status/1324478190031720448

ganmo

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

https://twitter.com/buttmunchsoer/status/1324478190031720448

That belongs here
https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2058118581/32

Panch18

This is great!!

https://twitter.com/grangecowboy/status/1325075319129317379?s=21

Reggie.

Biden has it

JohnnyKq

Reggie. wrote: »

Biden has it

Hallelujah! The world must be a safer place as a result

ruwithme

Jayus,some folk in this country got very worked up this last 4 years over Donald Trump. Why,thankfully i,l'll never know.

He'll soon be gone and all the while,whatever issues that really matter on this soil still remain.

Birdnuts

ruwithme wrote: »

Jayus,some folk in this country got very worked up this last 4 years over Donald Trump. Why,thankfully i,l'll never know.

He'll soon be gone and all the while,whatever issues that really matter on this soil still remain.

Whatever about Trump, Bolsanario is probably a bigger threat to the planet given whats happening in the Amazon atm.:(

Reggie.

JohnnyKq wrote: »

Hallelujah! The world must be a safer place as a result

How so? sure he started no new wars in his 4 yrs

_Brian

Reggie. wrote: »

How so? sure he started no new wars in his 4 yrs

Yet his ineptitude as a president probably killed more Americans than any before. During his time America, in particular the presidency has become a spectacle, something to be laughed at worldwide.
He leaves the US as a more divided nation than at any time in recent memory. Not just politically but racially and socially.
He did his best to ally himself with Russia and North Korea and paid something like 100times more tax in China than he did in America.

patsy_mccabe

Trump's biggest problem was he had zero charm. Compared to Obama and Clinton, he was a terrible speaker. At the same time that endeared him to a lot of Americans that had become sick of sweet talkers that did little else.

Say my name

Seems like nonsense.

But there's stuff floating around on sm that Dick Cheney is going to be Biden's foreign policy advisor.

_Brian

Say my name wrote: »

Seems like nonsense.

But there's stuff floating around on sm that Dick Cheney is going to be Biden's foreign policy advisor.

Jesus what’s wrong in America when they just want older people in offices of power. The poor VP will start thinking she’s working in a care home and not the White House.

Reggie.

_Brian wrote: »

Jesus what’s wrong in America when they just want older people in offices of power. The poor VP will start thinking she’s working in a care home and not the White House.

I predict that biden will stand down in about a year due to I'll health or whatever and the VP harris will take over.

First woman in the White House.

bogman_bass

Reggie. wrote: »

How so? sure he started no new wars in his 4 yrs

I’ll give you that but the way he threw the Kurds under the bus was awful

Panch18

Reggie. wrote: »

I predict that biden will stand down in about a year due to I'll health or whatever and the VP harris will take over.

First woman in the White House.

I think there is some rule or law that if Harris takes over after 2 years she can still run for 2 more terms after that, so should she be successful in elections it could potentially be 10 years in a row

So I think Joe will do a couple of years

Injuryprone

Reggie. wrote: »

How so? sure he started no new wars in his 4 yrs

He started plenty of trade wars though. If one was to be an ultra conspiracy theorist, you could say that the Chinese introduced the virus as retaliation for the trade war. You'd have to admit, western life has been far more affected

At the end of the day, the world is alot more polarised place than it was in 2016

Gillespy

''Elections can't be rigged''- people who claimed for years the Russians rigged the last election. A call for recounts and vote audit is so anti democratic now for some reason. Why was Mueller allowed to happen then. I hope Trump hangs this out to at least as long as Gore did. Conceding now does nothing, need to expose any election fraud if it's there, it will be worth it in the long run.

Cheney or not, the American war machine will be raring to go again. So don't be shocked if some poor middle eastern countries gets a taste of freedom in the next year or two.

Also, for someone who ran on covid, why hasn't Biden come out and put a stop to these big street parties. Notice how no one is calling them super spreader events either?

jaymla627

Gillespy wrote: »

''Elections can't be rigged''- people who claimed for years the Russians rigged the last election. A call for recounts and vote audit is so anti democratic now for some reason. Why was Mueller allowed to happen then. I hope Trump hangs this out to at least as long as Gore did. Conceding now does nothing, need to expose any election fraud if it's there, it will be worth it in the long run.

Cheney or not, the American war machine will be raring to go again. So don't be shocked if some poor middle eastern countries gets a taste of freedom in the next year or two.

Also, for someone who ran on covid, why hasn't Biden come out and put a stop to these big street parties. Notice how no one is calling them super spreader events either?

Watched a interview he done recently where he proclaimed trump was the virus, to be honest I'd be out of the White House straight away if I was Trump and let him take the mantle on covid 19 straight of the bat, it will be pretty messed up through mainstream media will barely cover any ramping up on covid 19 deaths and infections now their guy is in power, the bogeyman dosent exist anymore to blame it on with trump gone from office

bogman_bass

Gillespy wrote: »

''Elections can't be rigged''- people who claimed for years the Russians rigged the last election. A call for recounts and vote audit is so anti democratic now for some reason.

Hold on now. I’m not having that.
He is perfectly entitled to recounts as is any candidate but to question and undermine the democratic process with zero evidence is wrong.

The difference with 4 years ago is that both the CIA and FBI has evidence of interference.
The Muller investigation found interference in the election and that the trump campaign beinifted from it but did not find sufficient evidence of direct conspiracy from the Trump campaign.

patsy_mccabe

JohnnyKq

bogman_bass wrote: »

Hold on now. I’m not having that.
He is perfectly entitled to recounts as is any candidate but to question and undermine the democratic process with zero evidence is wrong.

The difference with 4 years ago is that both the CIA and FBI has evidence of interference.
The Muller investigation found interference in the election and that the trump campaign beinifted from it but did not find sufficient evidence of direct conspiracy from the Trump campaign.

The postal vote system needs reform in the US.
Its slowing down the result and causing further divide as both sides fester while waiting a week for the result.

Could our electric voting machines, in storage by one of ministers companies, be offloaded to help our US colleagues voting here :-)

Say my name

Gillespy wrote: »

Also, for someone who ran on covid, why hasn't Biden come out and put a stop to these big street parties. Notice how no one is calling them super spreader events either?

Luke Ming has it covered.


https://twitter.com/lukeming/status/1325183617933275143?s=20

patsy_mccabe

Et Tu Boris ...

https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1325133262075940864

Gillespy

bogman_bass wrote: »

Hold on now. I’m not having that.
He is perfectly entitled to recounts as is any candidate but to question and undermine the democratic process with zero evidence is wrong.

The difference with 4 years ago is that both the CIA and FBI has evidence of interference.
The Muller investigation found interference in the election and that the trump campaign beinifted from it but did not find sufficient evidence of direct conspiracy from the Trump campaign.

No they didn't. It was all a set up from day one. It's why no one talked about it this election. A big charade because they didn't like losing. Insufficient evidence, that's handy.

How do you know there isn't evidence? Because the same lot told you. Sorry, I'll wait for a more unbiased source. Nothing to lose by waiting. In the mean time, spare me with this guff about how dangerous this is.

Gillespy

There's nothing new under the sun.

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1297765861051129856

virginmediapls

Lol, this fella is good craic. They can't stuff the ballot boxes if you cover them in a layer of tinfoil.

bogman_bass

Gillespy wrote: »

No they didn't. It was all a set up from day one. It's why no one talked about it this election. A big charade because they didn't like losing. Insufficient evidence, that's handy.

How do you know there isn't evidence? Because the same lot told you. Sorry, I'll wait for a more unbiased source. Nothing to lose by waiting. In the mean time, spare me with this guff about how dangerous this is.

Yes they did. On top of that roger stone was found guilty of 7 counts of witness tampering related to the case and got pardoned by trump before he served a day in jail

As for no evidence: well that is the thing about evidence. You don’t have any untill some is presented and none has been presented which you really should do before making wild claims like he’s making

Say my name

Mick Wallace doesn't care for the talk of Kamala's appointment as being historic.


https://twitter.com/wallacemick/status/1325468854714322946?s=20

Gillespy

bogman_bass wrote: »

Yes they did. On top of that roger stone was found guilty of 7 counts of witness tampering related to the case and got pardoned by trump before he served a day in jail

As for no evidence: well that is the thing about evidence. You don’t have any untill some is presented and none has been presented which you really should do before making wild claims like he’s making

You were done like a kipper and won't admit it but you know deep down it was bogus from start to finish.

Everyone including Biden should welcome any investigation or whatever to make sure every legal vote is counted.

Dakota Dan

Do the Biden supporters on here know about his passion for women and children?

bogman_bass

Gillespy wrote: »

You were done like a kipper and won't admit it but you know deep down it was bogus from start to finish.

Everyone including Biden should welcome any investigation or whatever to make sure every legal vote is counted.

How, pray tell, was I “Done like a kipper”?

Quote from the Muller report itself “The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion"

Who is the real kipper here?

Base price

Came across this on Twitter last night -
https://twitter.com/The_ChrisShaw/status/1325146317287526400?s=20

Tileman

Base price wrote: »

Came across this on Twitter last night -
https://twitter.com/The_ChrisShaw/status/1325146317287526400?s=20

Was that clip recent?

Reggie.

Reggie. wrote: »

I predict that biden will stand down in about a year due to I'll health or whatever and the VP harris will take over.

First woman in the White House.

Possibly, but... Remember that was nearly the same prediction about Trump, that Pence was to take over. Now I've even heard of Trump running in 2024.