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The 2020 U.S. Election Irregularities.

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    #392
    V8 Interceptor
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    King Mob wrote: »
    Lol, ironic you say that....But you've changed your answer. You said that you were ok with the president lying about voter fraud. That's clearly what happened. You are now pretending that Trump was just innocently claiming something ridiculous and unbelievable. Which is silly and a massive stretch of the imagination. You are not dumb enough to actually believe this. You also have ignored the second point. If this was true and Trump was that delusional, you seem to have no issue with his party and hangers on supporting that delusion.And I also find it weird that you suddenly know exactly what Trump was thinking when he was claiming these falsehoods, but only a few hours ago you were claiming to have never heard those claims and didn't know anything about them.

    Again, you are being very dishonest. As all Trump supporters must be.
    You come across as a very angry individual. Slightly unhinged to tell you the truth.

    If that's the behaviour of liberals then the Trump phenomenon is easy to explain.


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    #393
    V8 Interceptor
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    You do some amount of waffling. you know full well who and what we're talking about and are well versed in everything trump is accused of. You also know he has children with all 3 women he married so throwing in "the mother of his children?" as some attempt to muddy the waters.
    You're like the other lad. You think I'm Trump obsessed. I'd no idea he was accused of this until you told me. I didn't know he had kids with a third woman and it'd hardly be the freakin' first lady who accused him of rape now would it?

    Its you guys who seem to play dumb. You know well I meant the mother of Ivanka etc.
    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    You know well that if a rape was alleged and you were a suspect, but knew you didnt do it, you'd give a dna sample to clear yourself of any charges.
    I've no idea why or why not he's not done it. Perhaps the woman in question is such a bullsh1tter he doesn't want to waste his time? Either way that's not evidence of Jack. Why doesn't this woman go to the Police if she claims he raped her?


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    #394
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    You're like the other lad. You think I'm Trump obsessed.

    Its quite clear you are . Youre going on and on justifying his actions.

    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    I didn't know he had kids with a third woman and it'd hardly be the freakin' first lady who accused him of rape now would it?

    Its you guys who seem to play dumb. You know well I meant the mother of Ivanka etc.

    The middle wife isnt really relevant to the conversation but you definitely knew he had kids with at least 2, unless you reckon he was still having kids with his first wife after marrying his current wife?

    For something you only heard about, you are fully prepared to jump straight to his defense without doing any research. That certainly comes off as very loyal



    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    I've no idea why or why not he's not done it. Perhaps the woman in question is such a bullsh1tter he doesn't want to waste his time?

    Doesnt want to waste his time? The defamation case is going to court. Whats going to waste more of his time and money, a court case or a dna sample?

    Youre playing proper dumb on this one.

    Also very difficult to believe anyone thats following trumps antics and the election hasnt heard of this case as there was a whole thing about him using the federal lawyers.


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    #395
    sabat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭sabat


    King Mob wrote: »
    Ahh of course. It was the giant global conspiracy...

    It's very handy when you can just use that to plug any holes in the narrative. You don't even have to support that claim...

    Why is an obscure website run by a dissident Chinese billionaire blocked from being clickable from an Irish forum? Sure, there are pixilated pornographic photos within it, but you could find a lot worse a lot easier with google. The owner of gnews himself said he tried to upload them to all the major porn sites but there's a total blockade in operation there too. We know that the NY Post had their twitter account closed for running the story and we know every mainstream media outlet just pretended it didn't exist, despite it being a huge scandal. In short, there was/is a conspiracy to keep this out of circulation.


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    #396
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    You come across as a very angry individual. Slightly unhinged to tell you the truth.

    If that's the behaviour of liberals then the Trump phenomenon is easy to explain.
    Sir, you seem to be resorting to personal attacks because you cannot defend your behavior and dishonest position.

    You've lied to defend the liar you follow.

    You've invented and defended ridiculous conspiracies to support the lies.

    And when you're called out on this, you ignore, evade, run away and whinge before throwing out personal attacks.

    It's not unhinged to call out these lies and point out what it's doing.
    I understand that this might be frustrating for you and ruins the fun of being a rebel Trump supporter, but it's true.

    Trump supports have to bend over backwards and be utterly dishonest to defend their boy.


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    #397
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    sabat wrote: »
    Why is an obscure website run by a dissident Chinese billionaire ...
    Cool.
    Who gave the order for Fox News to drop the story?
    Who is at this "board level" you refer to?


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    #398
    sabat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭sabat


    King Mob wrote: »
    Cool.
    Who gave the order for Fox News to drop the story?
    Who is at this "board level" you refer to?

    Rupert Murdoch (Chairman)
    Lachlan Murdoch (Executive Chairman)
    Chase Carey.
    Anne Dias.
    Roland A. Hernandez.
    Jacques Nasser.
    Paul Ryan.


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    #399
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    sabat wrote: »
    Rupert Murdoch (Chairman)
    Lachlan Murdoch (Executive Chairman)
    Chase Carey.
    Anne Dias.
    Roland A. Hernandez.
    Jacques Nasser.
    Paul Ryan.
    Ok. And which of these gave the order to Fox to drop the story?
    When did they do this.
    Why?

    Did they also tell Tucker to not make copies of it, or did they tell them to make up that whole ridiculous story?


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    #400
    V8 Interceptor
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    The middle wife isnt really relevant to the conversation but you definitely knew he had kids with at least 2, unless you reckon he was still having kids with his first wife after marrying his current wife?
    .......What???!!!
    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    For something you only heard about, you are fully prepared to jump straight to his defense without doing any research. That certainly comes off as very loyal
    You're the one making the accusations. You're the one who needs to provide proof.

    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Doesnt want to waste his time? The defamation case is going to court. Whats going to waste more of his time and money, a court case or a dna sample?
    Why didn't you say that then?!!
    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Youre playing proper dumb on this one.
    This has to be nailed down. Why do you and the other chap automatically assume that the other person knows what you're talking about? Why is that, seriously?
    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Also very difficult to believe anyone thats following trumps antics and the election hasnt heard of this case as there was a whole thing about him using the federal lawyers.
    Well there you go. I'd not heard about it nor have I heard about half the stuff you two are talking about.

    So who's really obsessed with Trump? The guy's living rent free in your head.


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    #401
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    You're the one making the accusations. You're the one who needs to provide proof.
    You've spend the majority of the thread whinging about how Trump didn't have to support his lies.


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    #402
    sabat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭sabat


    King Mob wrote: »
    Ok. And which of these gave the order to Fox to drop the story?
    When did they do this.
    Why?

    Did they also tell Tucker to not make copies of it, or did they tell them to make up that whole ridiculous story?

    Now I remember why I blocked you. Don't quote my posts again because I won't be engaging with you. The laptop and its contents are real. I linked to them. The media blackout is real. I provided several clear examples. The most likely explanation for Tucker Carlson dropping the story is that he was told to by senior executives-it's their channel and they decide what runs, not him.


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    #403
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    sabat wrote: »
    Now I remember why I blocked you. Don't quote my posts again because I won't be engaging with you.
    Why are you guys so easily triggered by basic questions?
    sabat wrote: »
    The laptop and its contents are real. I linked to them. The media blackout is real. I provided several clear examples. The most likely explanation for Tucker Carlson dropping the story is that he was told to by senior executives-it's their channel and they decide what runs, not him.
    Ok.
    Which executives?
    When did they do this?
    Why?

    I think the reason you are avoiding this question is that you don't know, but don't want to admit this as it would show that you don't actually have any evidence or information about this claim.


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    #404
    V8 Interceptor
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    King Mob wrote: »
    You've spend the majority of the thread whinging about how Trump didn't have to support his lies.

    I most certainly did not. I said any evidence should be placed before the courts and let it duly be decided upon. Your friend however believes he can claim something as fact without that process taking place.


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    #405
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    I most certainly did not. I said any evidence should be placed before the courts and let it duly be decided upon. Your friend however believes he can claim something as fact without that process taking place.
    And now sir you seem to be just deflecting and whinging about what other people are doing.
    That also seems that this is what Guy is arguing too. The evidence will be shown in court. And he's pointing out how Trump is once again not supplying evidence to back up his claims of innocence.

    At the same time, sir, we have your buddy claiming the Fox news killed a story harmful to your president on the behest of a grand conspiracy without any evidence at all. Why haven't you pulled him up on that?
    Why are you moaning at me for what other posters say or do, when you seem to be ok with fellow Trump conspiracy theorists make claims without evidence.

    And remember sir, you already said, very clearly, that you had no issue with the president lying and claiming things without evidence. Not sure why you suddenly claim to care about it now.

    Hypocrisy is another common trait of Trump supporters.


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    #406
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    .......What???!!!

    What do you mean "what". You know he has kids with more than one woman. His youngest is Melanias son and was born the year after they got married. So I assume you realise hes not the son of the woman Donald divorced 14 years previously.
    You know we're talking about Ivana and you know that shes alleged in a deposition , the details of which were later published, that he raped and beat her, pulling out clumps of her hair. Theres not much point in discussing it further so you can trying to "what, what do you mean, what about this minor details I can pretend to misconstrue" throught he whole thing.

    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    You're the one making the accusations. You're the one who needs to provide proof.

    No, the women are making the accusations .




    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    This has to be nailed down. Why do you and the other chap automatically assume that the other person knows what you're talking about? Why is that, seriously?

    Because its very strange that someone goes to such lengths to defend and deflect on behalf of someone they claim not to support, conveniently claim to not know any of the details of the stuff being said , nut are willing to deny anyway.


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    Well there you go. I'd not heard about it nor have I heard about half the stuff you two are talking about.

    So , again, why leap to his defense and be so willing to defend something you know nothing about without at the very least doing some research?

    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    I most certainly did not. I said any evidence should be placed before the courts and let it duly be decided upon. Your friend however believes he can claim something as fact without that process taking place.

    "any evidence" in court cases , like rape accusations for instance, would normally include dna evidence. Especially from the person proclaiming their innocence. You'd think the person being accused would be rushing to give a sample to clear their name as any innocent person would.........


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    #407
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    sabat wrote: »
    Now I remember why I blocked you. Don't quote my posts again because I won't be engaging with you. The laptop and its contents are real. I linked to them. The media blackout is real. I provided several clear examples. The most likely explanation for Tucker Carlson dropping the story is that he was told to by senior executives-it's their channel and they decide what runs, not him.

    How did Murdoch manage to silence Trump on the matter and stop him releasing this evidence that would be very beneficial to him?

    What about all the other, more rightwing news outlets (I listed a couple) ?
    I did ask this already but you either missed or ignored it.


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    #408
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,544 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    enno99 wrote: »
    Oh they were out to get him from day one
    He was pulling the trough from under their greedy snouts

    He only wanted to move it to the side so he could get his own snout and all of his families snouts nice and deep in there ;)


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    #409
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Matt Parker with another video having a look at The Inventor of Email's claims.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aokNwKx7gM8


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    #410
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Matt Parker with another video having a look at The Inventor of Email's claims.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aokNwKx7gM8


    Hes funded by this lot

    For those not in the know, Jane Street is about as hot as things get in the world of quant trading. In 2016, the New York Times described it as a "secretive E.T.F. trading firm that, after years of minting money in the shadows of Wall Street, is now pitching itself to some of the largest institutional investors in the world.

    https://news.efinancialcareers.com/us-en/307393/jane-street-pay



    A few names that jump out



    Past Speakers
    Bill James
    Bruce Schneier
    Cass Sunstein
    Colson Whitehead
    Daryl Morey
    Garry Kasparov
    Jonathan Zittrain
    Nate Silver
    Salman Rushdie
    Samantha Power
    Sheila Bair
    Tyler Cowen


    https://www.janestreet.com/culture/jane-street-u/

    And maybe hes just trying to sell his book ?

    Thats frowned upon by some prolific posters here


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    #411
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    He only wanted to move it to the side so he could get his own snout and all of his families snouts nice and deep in there ;)

    Cant fathom why you guys keep saying this

    He was very wealthy man before he ran for office

    Would love to hear your reason as to why he is doing this ?
    He has more to lose than gain

    Cant be fame he was known world wide

    He would make more money out of office


    Clinton was broke leaving office whats he worth now
    Biden reportedly picked up 16 million in 4 yrs yet he wants to give it up for 400k a year ?
    Obamas book deal 65 million :eek:


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    #412
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi6U07gOHW4


    Sidney Powell: It’s really an insidious, corrupt system and I can’t tell you how livid I am at our government for not paying attention to complaints, even brought by Democrats… No one in our government has paid any attention to it which makes me wonder if the CIA has used it for its own benefit in different places. And why Gina Haspel is still there in the CIA is beyond my comprehension. She should be fired immediately.

    Even Democrats complained about this


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    #413
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    enno99 wrote: »
    Biden reportedly picked up 16 million in 4 yrs yet he wants to give it up for 400k a year ?

    Why would he have to give up his outside interests?

    Yet another legacy of the Trump administration is not divesting his businesses. Open season now so.


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    #414
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Why would he have to give up his outside interests?

    Yet another legacy of the Trump administration is not divesting his businesses. Open season now so.


    So according to you Trump was corrupt and should be removed

    But Biden should replace him and continue with his and Hunters corruption


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    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    enno99 wrote: »
    So according to you Trump was corrupt and should be removed

    But Biden should replace him and continue with his and Hunters corruption

    And you think all trump does is right so should have no issue with Biden doing the same.

    Have you any comment on the court cases yet? To jog your memory , you said they'll produce the fraud evidence Rudy and trump are banging on about when it gets to court and I pointed out they've already been to court 20 plus times and its come to nothing because they've presented no evidence. So whats the deal?


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    #416
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,960 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    28 pages, not one single credible piece of evidence for systemic electoral fraud

    If the cases keep getting dropped or dismissed, that must mean legal fraud right?

    Surely this whole thing can't just be made up, a whopper, a giant porky pie by the US president and his team..


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    #417
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Surely this whole thing can't just be made up, a whopper, a giant porky pie by the US president and his team..
    Nah that just means that they genuinely believed their ridiculous and obviously false, impossible and unprovable claims. And that makes it ok for them to claim those things as fact without evidence.

    Trump can do no wrong.


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    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    enno99 wrote: »
    Hes funded by this lot
    Lol Matt Parker is now part of the global conspiracy against Trump.


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    #419
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    28 pages, not one single credible piece of evidence for systemic electoral fraud

    If the cases keep getting dropped or dismissed, that must mean legal fraud right?

    Surely this whole thing can't just be made up, a whopper, a giant porky pie by the US president and his team..


    What would he gain by lying.


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    #420
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,544 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    enno99 wrote: »
    What would he gain by lying.

    What did he gain by lying for the last four years?


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    #421
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    And you think all trump does is right so should have no issue with Biden doing the same.

    Have you any comment on the court cases yet? To jog your memory , you said they'll produce the fraud evidence Rudy and trump are banging on about when it gets to court and I pointed out they've already been to court 20 plus times and its come to nothing because they've presented no evidence. So whats the deal?


    What's the rush.
    Give it time.
    Biden can have a rest after all that campaigning.


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