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The 2020 U.S. Election Irregularities.

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    #422
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    What did he gain by lying for the last four years?

    I see you can't answer


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    #423
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,544 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    enno99 wrote: »
    I see you can't answer

    What does he gain? He keeps the grift going, he is begging for money for a "defence fund" but as the small print shows, 50% of the money actually goes to pay for his debts, so money, That's what he gains.


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    #424
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    What does he gain? He keeps the grift going, he is begging for money for a "defence fund" but as the small print shows, 50% of the money actually goes to pay for his debts, so money, That's what he gains.

    Link


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    #425
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    What does he gain? He keeps the grift going, he is begging for money for a "defence fund" but as the small print shows, 50% of the money actually goes to pay for his debts, so money, That's what he gains.

    He would make more out of office.

    Book deals ,speeches. Clinton was getting untold money for speeches.


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    #426
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    enno99 wrote: »
    He would make more out of office.

    How? Hes divested none of his businesses and he has the office of president to funnel funds through, help his friends and pay to use his own businesses. What can he do out of office he cant or hasnt done in it?
    enno99 wrote: »

    Book deals ,speeches. Clinton was getting untold money for speeches.

    He could just do that now. He has no issue using the job to make money while in it and completely disregarding protocols like not using the white house for campaigns.


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    #427
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    How? Hes divested none of his businesses and he has the office of president to funnel funds through, help his friends and pay to use his own businesses. What can he do out of office he cant or hasnt done in it?


    Evidence please


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    #428
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,544 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    enno99 wrote: »
    Link

    It's actually worse than I thought!!!

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idINKBN27R30B
    A donor would have to give more than $8,000 before any money goes to the "recount account" established to finance election challenges, including recounts and lawsuits over alleged improprieties, the fundraising disclosures show.
    Scrolling down the page would take a donor to the fine print, which shows that donations are split between "Save America," which gets 60% of the money, and the RNC, which gets the other 40%. None of the money flows to Trump's official "recount" committee fund until Trump's Save America share reaches the legal contribution limit of $5,000, according to the disclosures.
    If a Trump donor gave $500, for instance, $300 would go to Trump's Save America PAC, $200 would to the RNC - and nothing would go to his election defense fund.

    One Republican political strategist said Trump is misleading supporters who might give small donations to whatever cause he approves.

    "It's important to be up front with people - especially those who are digging deep into their pockets to come up with $25,” said Michael DuHaime, a former political director at the RNC. “If you tell them it's going for legal fees, well then it should go for legal fees."


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    #429
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    It's actually worse than I thought!!!

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idINKBN27R30B

    Yea its not all about him.
    Defending elections is about more than Trump


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    #430
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,544 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    enno99 wrote: »
    Yea its not all about him.
    Defending elections is about more than Trump

    The grift is on, he is taking money from people hand over fist and you defend him. How much has he cost the US taxpayer over four years? Plays golf on his own courses or swans off to his resort making the taxpayers pay for rooms in his hotels. The man is a their and a.liar, the sooner he is gone the better.


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    #431
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    enno99 wrote: »
    Evidence please

    No. Im not playing your nonsense game and wasting time on it. Youre free to google it all you like. You'll just ignore any bits that dont suit as you have all the way through the thread anyway.


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    #432
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    enno99 wrote: »
    What would he gain by lying.
    Why did he lie?


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    #433
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    The grift is on, he is taking money from people hand over fist and you defend him. How much has he cost the US taxpayer over four years? Plays golf on his own courses or swans off to his resort making the taxpayers pay for rooms in his hotels. The man is a their and a.liar, the sooner he is gone the better.

    So he should pay the governments bills ?

    The charges were secret service and staff at discount

    Vice President and current Trump opponent Joe Biden. The former vice president charged the Secret Service a total of $171,600 over the course of six years for a cottage near Biden’s Delaware home—an amount that Trump had exceeded by March 17, 2017,

    Talk about clutching at straws


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    #434
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,544 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    enno99 wrote: »
    So he should pay the governments bills ?

    The charges were secret service and staff at discount




    Talk about clutching at straws

    Cheers for that, so you admit from your own link that trump has cost the American taxpayer more in one year than Biden did in six years. So If that carried on Trump has cost the Taxpayer nearly three quarters of a million, all siphoned off into his businesses, and that's just the money for his golf weekends.


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    #435
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    How much does it cost to stay in a Trump Hotel?

    Donald Trump will become the USA’s 45th President on Friday. And for those who want an inauguration weekend to trump all others, we reveal, in association with Fairfax the cheapest and dearest Trump hotels to visit around the world.




    Rank Hotel Where Price from
    1 Trump Doonbeg Country Clare, Ireland €387 (£334)
    2 Trump Panama Panama $425 (£345)
    3 Trump Turnberry Ayrshire, Scotland £498
    4 Macleod House & Lodge Aberdeenshire, Scotland £500
    5 Trump Toronto Toronto, Canada $700 (£569)
    6 Trump Soho New York $710 (£575)
    7 Trump Chicago Chicago, Illinois $780 (£633)
    8 Trump Las Vegas Las Vegas, Nevada $785 (£637)
    9 Albemarle Estate at Trump Winery Charlottesville, Virginia $855 (£694)
    10 Trump Vancouver Vancouver, Canada CA$1,155 (£704)
    11 Trump Doral Miami, Florida $898 (£729)
    12 Trump Waikiki Honolulu, Hawaii $1,100 (£892)
    13 Trump New York New York $1,245 (£1,009)
    14 Trump Washington DC Washington $1,535 (£1,245)

    https://freebeacon.com/culture/michelle-obamas-one-night-stay-morocco-cost-taxpayers-612322/

    Michelle Obama’s One Night Stay in Morocco Cost Taxpayers $612,322


    Trrump would have given her a better rate :D


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    #436
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Wikileaks: Soros-Linked Voting Machines Now Used in Most Battleground States Were Used to Rig the 2004 Venezuela Elections
    Smartmatic, a UK based company, is a George Soros linked company that has provided voting technology in 16 states including battleground zones like Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Virginia.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/wikileaks-soros-linked-voting-machines-now-used-battleground-states-used-rig-2004-venezuela-elections/

    Sidney Powell: Smartmatic Voting Machine’s Chairman of the Board Peter Neffenger Named to Joe Biden’s ‘Transition Team’

    Peter Neffenger is currently Chairman of the Board of Directors of Smartmatic, a multinational company that specializes in building and implementing electronic voting systems.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/sidney-powell-smartmatic-voting-machines-chairman-board-peter-neffenger-named-joe-bidens-transition-team/

    Nothing fishy here :rolleyes:


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    #437
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,544 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    enno99 wrote: »
    Wikileaks: Soros-Linked Voting Machines Now Used in Most Battleground States Were Used to Rig the 2004 Venezuela Elections



    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/wikileaks-soros-linked-voting-machines-now-used-battleground-states-used-rig-2004-venezuela-elections/

    Sidney Powell: Smartmatic Voting Machine’s Chairman of the Board Peter Neffenger Named to Joe Biden’s ‘Transition Team’




    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/sidney-powell-smartmatic-voting-machines-chairman-board-peter-neffenger-named-joe-bidens-transition-team/

    Nothing fishy here :rolleyes:

    Oh ffs Soros is now involved :rolleyes:


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    #438
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Oh ffs Soros is now involved :rolleyes:
    It's hardly a conspiracy theory if you can't intimately blame on Soros or some other Jewish person.

    Also no evidence of fraud in any of those states.
    Not sure why enno is claiming otherwise.


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    #439
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Oh ffs Soros is now involved :rolleyes:

    LOL he was always involved


    Soros pumps more than $28 million into Democratic groups for 2020
    Soros’ $28 million in donations, detailed in a new campaign finance disclosure from his family’s PAC, marks a major down payment on the election for the 89-year-old billionaire financier, who has not publicly outlined his spending plans for the 2020 election.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/10/soros-pumps-28-million-democratic-groups-2020-179367


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    #440
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,960 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Oh ffs Soros is now involved :rolleyes:

    We should definitely have conspiracy thread bingo.

    "Soros", "Mainstream media", "Clinton", "Mark of the Beast" to name a few ;)


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    #441
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    We should definitely have conspiracy thread bingo.

    "Soros", "Mainstream media", "Clinton", "Mark of the Beast" to name a few ;)
    Don't forget Bill Gates.


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    #442
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    We should definitely have conspiracy thread bingo.

    "Soros", "Mainstream media", "Clinton", "Mark of the Beast" to name a few ;)

    Jesus stop bitching what would you guys do without us


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    #443
    V8 Interceptor
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    King Mob wrote: »
    And now sir you seem to be just deflecting and whinging about what other people are doing.
    That also seems that this is what Guy is arguing too. The evidence will be shown in court. And he's pointing out how Trump is once again not supplying evidence to back up his claims of innocence.
    You don't know how the law works. Its not up to someone to prove their innocence, its up to someone to prove their guilt.
    King Mob wrote: »
    At the same time, sir, we have your buddy claiming the Fox news killed a story harmful to your president on the behest of a grand conspiracy without any evidence at all. Why haven't you pulled him up on that? Why are you moaning at me for what other posters say or do, when you seem to be ok with fellow Trump conspiracy theorists make claims without evidence. And remember sir, you already said, very clearly, that you had no issue with the president lying and claiming things without evidence. Not sure why you suddenly claim to care about it now.

    Hypocrisy is another common trait of Trump supporters.
    I was talking to another poster and YOU butted in.


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    #444
    V8 Interceptor
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Oh ffs Soros is now involved :rolleyes:

    Arsehole seems to be involved in everything else so why not this.


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    #445
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    You don't know how the law works. Its not up to someone to prove their innocence, its up to someone to prove their guilt.
    Unless you're Trump and you can falsely accuse people of election fraud even when you know it's false and when you can't offer any evidence back up your accusations.
    Again according to you that's totally fine.
    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    I was talking to another poster and YOU butted in.
    So how come you don't pull your fellow conspiracy theorists up on their unevidenced claims?


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    #446
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    Arsehole seems to be involved in everything else so why not this.

    Yea, those Jewish people seem to be behind a lot of conspiracy theories...


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    #447
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,960 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    More cases being dropped

    "Allegation that 682,479 mail-in and absentee ballots were illegally processed without its representatives watching has been dropped"
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/16/trump-campaign-abandons-part-of-legal-challenge-to-pennsylvania-election-results

    The courts are having none of this crap

    What happens when that administration tells other countries to respect elections? interesting, because that's what Pompeo has just done, he's asked for countries to respect elections, after he's just claimed that there will be a "smooth transition" to a Trump administration..

    You cannot make this stuff up anymore, we are officially in the most insane period of US politics ever. A sitting US president who fawns over foreign dictators, disdains the free press and is now baselessly attacking democracy in his own country.


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    #448
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    You cannot make this stuff up anymore, we are officially in the most insane period of US politics ever. A sitting US president who fawns over foreign dictators, disdains the free press and is now baselessly attacking democracy in his own country.
    And weirdly after years of railing about the government doing that type of stuff, no conspiracy theorists seems to notice or care when Trump does it.


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    #449
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,960 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    A lot of motivation for Trump not to leave office, here's what he's facing when he becomes a private citizen..

    1) The hush-money allegations
    2) The tax and bank fraud investigation
    3) The real-estate fraud investigation
    4) The emoluments cases
    5) The sexual misconduct lawsuits
    6) The Mary Trump lawsuit
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54716550

    Of course all of these cases (and the free press, and the opposition party, and both democratic elections) are a conspiracy against the poor man ;)


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    #450
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    More cases being dropped

    "Allegation that 682,479 mail-in and absentee ballots were illegally processed without its representatives watching has been dropped"
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/16/trump-campaign-abandons-part-of-legal-challenge-to-pennsylvania-election-results

    The courts are having none of this crap

    What happens when that administration tells other countries to respect elections? interesting, because that's what Pompeo has just done, he's asked for countries to respect elections, after he's just claimed that there will be a "smooth transition" to a Trump administration..

    You cannot make this stuff up anymore, we are officially in the most insane period of US politics ever. A sitting US president who fawns over foreign dictators, disdains the free press and is now baselessly attacking democracy in his own country.

    https://twitter.com/TimMurtaugh/status/1328357927166611457


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    #451
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    A lot of motivation for Trump not to leave office, here's what he's facing when he becomes a private citizen..

    1) The hush-money allegations
    2) The tax and bank fraud investigation
    3) The real-estate fraud investigation
    4) The emoluments cases
    5) The sexual misconduct lawsuits
    6) The Mary Trump lawsuit
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54716550

    Of course all of these cases (and the free press, and the opposition party, and both democratic elections) are a conspiracy against the poor man ;)

    Oh he has two options so

    Go to jail or burn it down Declas everything

    Hopefully the latter us CTers will have a field day


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