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Would you report a crime, or try to stop a crime talking place

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,709 ✭✭✭Feisar


    spook_cook wrote: »
    "That was the thing with Kylta. Hell of a name from God knows where, but where ever it was the people there thought the universe was clockwork. Everything had to go according to the "script", the plan by the Big Guy.

    "There ain't none of that here" I said. "It's me and you, and the final chapter... well it isn't in ink yet".

    "You can't mean it, going back their is suicide!" squealed K. "Enough" and I calmed her with a back strike of my hand. Hysterics have no place when a man is facing an unknown night.

    "Of course I'm going back. I owe it, me and him, we came up together. I leave no-one behind." A quite sob started "but what about me? You're leaving me behind.." K cried. I grabbed my hammer, some lead and embraced the remainder of a whiskey bottle. "Another life K, another script. That's what it should have been for us" I closed the door...

    Do me, do me!

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,457 ✭✭✭✭Kylta


    Feisar wrote: »
    It was actually really good! The only thing I'd change is the reverse roundhouse. As someone who used to dance around in angry white pajamas the only time I'd kick someone in the head in an assault is after I kicked them in the knee and they were on the ground. Nothing sexy required then, soccer kick to the head.

    Would it not be better for the reluctant hero to get shot in the bollox, not like kill him, turn him into a eunuch. Give him something to hold onto (sorry their gone) moving forward as he continues his vigilante crime spree against the poor undesirable lowlife of dublin. The media could call him the phantom balless bollox. I'm sure the sunday world could do an expo on the castrated crusader. Now that sells papers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,308 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    I think the bigger question in all this, and something that is always forgotten about or not considered, is;

    Would you be wiling to intervene, make a statement and go to court to give evidence?

    Being an ex-Garda, I always imagined that even after I quit, if I saw a crime I would intervene. But there's so much to think about that sometimes it's not worth the risk. A good example brought up are people fighting. You've no idea if you intervene will they all turn on you, as has happened many, many times. The good Samaritan ends up being the victim, and as rightly pointed out the justice system is severely lacking in this country that it may not be worth the risk to get involved.

    I would like to think I'd step in if I was to witness any sexually motivated assault, or any abduction attempts, etc. But for fights I probably wouldn't, but I would ring the Gardai and make a statement if required as a witness. No point jumping in to help if you can't at least believe you won't get turned on, so jumping in to help on a 10v1 fight would be a bad idea imo. Shoplifters I wouldn't intervene with, but I might make it known to security if possible. If I saw a single person do a purse snatch, I'd try to stop them I reckon.

    But at the end of the day, you need to be willing to make a statement and go to court, otherwise there may be a lack of evidence and it wouldn't go anywhere. CCTV is great an all, but while I can record in 4K on my phone, most shops still have 480p cameras which are not set up correctly so usually useless. Actually bothers me that a lot of shops don't take security monitoring more seriously, and give out then when someone can't be identified on their potato systems. As the French would say, le sigh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,480 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    I think the bigger question in all this, and something that is always forgotten about or not considered, is;

    Would you be wiling to intervene, make a statement and go to court to give evidence?

    Being an ex-Garda, I always imagined that even after I quit, if I saw a crime I would intervene. But there's so much to think about that sometimes it's not worth the risk. A good example brought up are people fighting. You've no idea if you intervene will they all turn on you, as has happened many, many times. The good Samaritan ends up being the victim, and as rightly pointed out the justice system is severely lacking in this country that it may not be worth the risk to get involved.

    I would like to think I'd step in if I was to witness any sexually motivated assault, or any abduction attempts, etc. But for fights I probably wouldn't, but I would ring the Gardai and make a statement if required as a witness. No point jumping in to help if you can't at least believe you won't get turned on, so jumping in to help on a 10v1 fight would be a bad idea imo. Shoplifters I wouldn't intervene with, but I might make it known to security if possible. If I saw a single person do a purse snatch, I'd try to stop them I reckon.

    But at the end of the day, you need to be willing to make a statement and go to court, otherwise there may be a lack of evidence and it wouldn't go anywhere. CCTV is great an all, but while I can record in 4K on my phone, most shops still have 480p cameras which are not set up correctly so usually useless. Actually bothers me that a lot of shops don't take security monitoring more seriously, and give out then when someone can't be identified on their potato systems. As the French would say, le sigh.



    The 2 times I intervened, the guy on the ground was getting kicked in the head, there is something about that I feel where you have to step in, kicking someone in the head could kill the person on the ground. The first time there was 2 lads kicking him but then suddenly a few more appeared and i was lucky to get away, one lad went for me and he was like something possessed, off his head on coke id say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,308 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    And therein lies the danger. If I was in a group I'd definitely say it to the group to intervene, but if it was just me I wouldn't, but I would watch and be willing to give a statement if needed.


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