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Cycle infrastructure planned for south Dublin

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    #1802
    Weepsie
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    https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2021/0614/1228064-sandymount-pedestrian/

    Won't someone think of the cars!!!


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    #1803
    p15574
    Registered Users Posts: 756 ✭✭✭p15574


    Weepsie wrote: »
    https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2021/0614/1228064-sandymount-pedestrian/

    Won't someone think of the cars!!!

    Wouldn't that result in all the traffic being diverted through the village via the other two roads around the green?


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    #1804
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users Posts: 6,484 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    p15574 wrote: »
    Wouldn't that result in all the traffic being diverted through the village via the other two roads around the green?

    It’s really not a busy stretch of road.


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    #1805
    Effects
    Registered Users Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    Didn't they only finish resurfacing and putting a new traffic light on that section a couple of months ago?
    Where's Labre34 when you need him to complain about something?

    It's a lot harder for two cars to pass each other at the other side of the green. I dread to think of the increased greenhouse emissions from those cars.


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    #1806
    Macy0161
    Registered Users Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Even Mannix not having a go - seems completely at odds to the opposition to the Strand Road initiative.
    Effects wrote: »
    Where's Labre34 when you need him to complain about something?
    Down the four courts?


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    #1807
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users Posts: 6,484 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Maybe there are no objections because the STC committee members favourite burger joint is located there, and it’s much better to have a fresh burger than transport it home for eating.


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    #1808
    CramCycle
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    Dear lord, coming out of the NCT centre in Deansgrange this morning. They have those wanded off bike lanes. As I came out the junction, all was lovely, I stopped as a mother and two kids rolled through, cars were being nice realising no one was losing anything by leaving yellow boxes clear etc. In fact having often been around there at that time, at this time of year, traffic was smooth and consistent compared to a few years ago. Then when I got a clear space to come out, what do I see except a f*cking Nissan Micra in the bike lane, inside the wands, skipping traffic. Of course he probably does this daily but the shear b*llixology of it all.


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    #1809
    loyatemu
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    CramCycle wrote: »
    Dear lord, coming out of the NCT centre in Deansgrange this morning. They have those wanded off bike lanes. As I came out the junction, all was lovely, I stopped as a mother and two kids rolled through, cars were being nice realising no one was losing anything by leaving yellow boxes clear etc. In fact having often been around there at that time, at this time of year, traffic was smooth and consistent compared to a few years ago. Then when I got a clear space to come out, what do I see except a f*cking Nissan Micra in the bike lane, inside the wands, skipping traffic. Of course he probably does this daily but the shear b*llixology of it all.

    Inside the wands!?

    I generally try to avoid conflict on the road, life's too short, but in that case I'd have been tempted to block the lane and make them reverse out!


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    #1810
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,727 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    loyatemu wrote: »
    Inside the wands!?

    I generally try to avoid conflict on the road, life's too short, but in that case I'd have been tempted to block the lane and make them reverse out!

    They were turning in where I was coming out, and regrettably as I was driving, it would have been more dangerous to stop or attempt to block. I was also acutely aware it was school time so not the time to try anything outside the predictable. If I was on my bike I would have had my camera and would have dropped it into Cabinteely Garda station on the way to work. The looks of disgust from the cars on the main road said it all but Johnny "not two f*cks given" Smith didn't care.


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    #1811
    TheW1zard
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    That junctions fecked, theres a tender in to upgrade the cycle infrastructure through it at the mo.


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    #1812
    bazermc
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    Presume the folks in Sandymount have no objection to this.

    https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/sandymount-village-partly-pedestrianised-outdoor-20823115


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    #1813
    AndrewJRenko
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    bazermc wrote: »
    Presume the folks in Sandymount have no objection to this.

    https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/sandymount-village-partly-pedestrianised-outdoor-20823115

    And no objection to this, presumeably? [Turn up the volume]

    https://twitter.com/danmandunne/status/1404580888080420865


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    #1814
    silverharp
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    had a nice little cycle from Sandymount to Killiney with a couple of guys from work, have to say quite pleasant and a decent little hill near the end. Signposting needs to be improved through, the other 2 would have completely missed the Booterstown park section.

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    #1815
    Seaswimmer
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    Rumour has it that DLR councillors voted by a small margin in favour of the active travel proposal to make Deansgrange road one way southbound past the cemetery on a trial basis to install a 2 way cycleway. . I cant find anything on the the council website. Just saw it on one of the residents WhatsApp groups so not sure how accurate it is or whether it will let the trial go ahead if true

    edit.
    Slight correction. looks like a motion was put forward to request the chief executive to ensure 2 way traffic was maintained along Deansgrange road. The motion was defeated so I guess good news for the potential cycleway.

    See attached screenshot


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    #1816
    helimachoptor
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    CramCycle wrote: »
    Dear lord, coming out of the NCT centre in Deansgrange this morning. They have those wanded off bike lanes. As I came out the junction, all was lovely, I stopped as a mother and two kids rolled through, cars were being nice realising no one was losing anything by leaving yellow boxes clear etc. In fact having often been around there at that time, at this time of year, traffic was smooth and consistent compared to a few years ago. Then when I got a clear space to come out, what do I see except a f*cking Nissan Micra in the bike lane, inside the wands, skipping traffic. Of course he probably does this daily but the shear b*llixology of it all.

    I live around the corner from that, and tbh i've seen bigger cars use the bike lane :pac:


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    #1817
    MojoMaker
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    You mean two wheels in the bike lane and two wheels on the pavement? There's hardly room there to squeeze a car inside the wands?


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    #1818
    daragh_
    Registered Users Posts: 3,122 ✭✭✭daragh_


    MojoMaker wrote: »
    You mean two wheels in the bike lane and two wheels on the pavement? There's hardly room there to squeeze a car inside the wands?

    Yeah I'm confused by that as well. I can't see how you would get a car inside there?


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    #1819
    helimachoptor
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    It narrows down at the nct centre, seen a Mondeo in it about 3 weeks ago


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    #1820
    ARX
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    helimachoptor wrote: »
    It narrows down at the nct centre, seen a Mondeo in it about 3 weeks ago
    I'll see your Mondeo and raise you a 7.5 tonne flatbed lorry in the Blackrock contra-flow cycle lane :pac:


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    #1821
    AndrewJRenko
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    Seaswimmer wrote: »
    Rumour has it that DLR councillors voted by a small margin in favour of the active travel proposal to make Deansgrange road one way southbound past the cemetery on a trial basis to install a 2 way cycleway. . I cant find anything on the the council website. Just saw it on one of the residents WhatsApp groups so not sure how accurate it is or whether it will let the trial go ahead if true

    edit.
    Slight correction. looks like a motion was put forward to request the chief executive to ensure 2 way traffic was maintained along Deansgrange road. The motion was defeated so I guess good news for the potential cycleway.

    See attached screenshot
    One name missing from the 'voted for' list on that screenshot. Would be good to know who to say thanks to.


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    #1822
    Effects
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    ARX wrote: »
    I'll see your Mondeo and raise you a 7.5 tonne flatbed lorry in the Blackrock contra-flow cycle lane :pac:

    I've seen bin lorries use that one in the past as well.


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    #1823
    Heraclius
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    Effects wrote: »
    I've seen bin lorries use that one in the past as well.

    Has anyone seen the gardaí stop anyone doing that? It sounds pretty shocking.


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    #1824
    ARX
    Registered Users Posts: 585 ✭✭✭ARX


    Heraclius wrote: »
    Has anyone seen the gardaí stop anyone doing that? It sounds pretty shocking.
    Let's just say that 'An Garda Síochána' means 'Guardian of the Peace', not 'Guardian of the Law'.


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    #1825
    Heraclius
    Registered Users Posts: 743 ✭✭✭Heraclius


    ARX wrote: »
    Let's just say that 'An Garda Síochána' means 'Guardian of the Peace', not 'Guardian of the Law'.

    Haha. I feel behaviour like that really deserves a crackdown.


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    #1826
    markpb
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    Heraclius wrote: »
    Haha. I feel behaviour like that really deserves a crackdown.

    You have to understand that when they park on the cycle lane, they're doing their best as fine, upstanding citizens to keep the traffic flowing. This is the priority for AGS so they don't and won't see any problem with it. In fact, they should be commended. Imagine if they parked outside the cycle lane and a motorist had to cross the centre-line to overtake them!?


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    #1827
    Seaswimmer
    Registered Users Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭Seaswimmer


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    One name missing from the 'voted for' list on that screenshot. Would be good to know who to say thanks to.

    I think the "voted against" are the people we need to thank. There are 10 names on there??


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    #1828
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,513 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    https://twitter.com/wwywwwgh/status/1407959695151796227


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    #1829
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users Posts: 6,484 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Thread on how Dublin Bay South candidates stand on Strand Road trial: https://twitter.com/dublincycling/status/1407752108019965959?s=21


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    #1830
    Weepsie
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,306 Mod ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    Bill Badbody is gold. Some people probably nodding their heads in agreement


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    #1831
    Heraclius
    Registered Users Posts: 743 ✭✭✭Heraclius


    markpb wrote: »
    You have to understand that when they park on the cycle lane, they're doing their best as fine, upstanding citizens to keep the traffic flowing. This is the priority for AGS so they don't and won't see any problem with it. In fact, they should be commended. Imagine if they parked outside the cycle lane and a motorist had to cross the centre-line to overtake them!?

    Heaven forfend! Sadly you're probably right. I hope over time attitudes change though. People accepted seatbelts and eventually drink driving became less acceptable.


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