Biden/Harris Presidency Discussion Thread

mcmoustache

Manach wrote: »

I must confess I'm surprised the US has intervened again in Syria in such a short time span since the start of Mr. Biden's admin. It does seem to signal a volte-face in America foreign policy in the region and a return to Obama era doctrine.

Any chance you could tell us what kind of media you're consuming that would make you think that this is true?


I know it was on youtube videos by 911 and Syria truthers and other cesspits of misinformation but I expected you to know better for some reason.

pixelburp

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Its not a gotcha moment. I still firmly believe Keystone XL and fracking is the US’s best shot at energy independence and absolutely the most efficient way to deliver energy to the nation. I think bidens foolishness on this issue wont be fully realised until another nation the US will depend on energy from has some issues or a price hike.

Where in this is the flip-flop? Think it's a pretty clear question. You were implying Biden had gone back on prior support for fracking, seems an easy one to back up. Your personal spitball doesn't really come into it.

ancapailldorcha

Eric Cartman wrote: »

This isnt a thread for discussing previous presidents. Can we have a thread where the response to every criticism of biden isnt met with ‘but trump’

No backseat modding please. Report a post if you have a problem please.

Brian?

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Nice to see Joe has already turned his back on the voters of Pennsylvania and flip flopped on not banning fracking. Not a great start

Swing and a miss. He never said he’d ban fracking unfortunately. He was quite clear he wouldn’t ban it in the debates.

mcmoustache

pixelburp wrote: »

Where in this is the flip-flop? Think it's a pretty clear question. You were implying Biden had gone back on prior support for fracking, seems an easy one to back up. Your personal spitball doesn't really come into it.

The flip-flop claim has been doing the rounds on places like facebook, dailytruthreport and Jack Posobiec's twitter for the past 24 hours. The same sorts of places where you would find Stop the Steal nonsense.

Brian?

AbusesToilets wrote: »

Colour me shocked. Which rebel group will the US abandon next? Perhaps the Kurds for Nth time.

Colour you hoodwinked, yet again. Biden hasn’t done a thing in Syria it seems.

hotmail.com

Biden hugging and embracing his grandchildren in the White House is a worrying insight into American attitudes to the virus.

And people wanted to blame Trump on everything.

pixelburp

hotmail.com wrote: »

Biden hugging and embracing his grandchildren in the White House is a worrying insight into American attitudes to the virus.

And people wanted to blame Trump on everything.

They're probably in a support bubble, no more than we have them here. Am using one myself with the in laws. Given Biden has worn his mask at most public events let's presume they know what they're doing instead of reaching for some kind of hypocrisy angle.

Brian?

hotmail.com wrote: »

Biden hugging and embracing his grandchildren in the White House is a worrying insight into American attitudes to the virus.

And people wanted to blame Trump on everything.

You seem to be worried about a lot of petty things. It’s almost as if you have an agenda to push

Timberrrrrrrr

hotmail.com wrote: »

Biden hugging and embracing his grandchildren in the White House is a worrying insight into American attitudes to the virus.

And people wanted to blame Trump on everything.

Another day another bout of faux outrage from you :rolleyes:

Sonics2k

hotmail.com wrote: »

Biden hugging and embracing his grandchildren in the White House is a worrying insight into American attitudes to the virus.

And people wanted to blame Trump on everything.

Can you at least try harder? Like make an attempt.

Tell me how

hotmail.com wrote: »

Biden hugging and embracing his grandchildren in the White House is a worrying insight into American attitudes to the virus.

This is close to trolling at this point.

If not, it's a completely deranged mindset.

hotmail.com

pixelburp wrote: »

They're probably in a support bubble, no more than we have them here. Am using one myself with the in laws. Given Biden has worn his mask at most public events let's presume they know what they're doing instead of reaching for some kind of hypocrisy angle.

I've not seen any leader in Europe being pictured hugging their grandchildren. World leaders will meet countless people, so my guess is that forming a bubble with extended family members isn't the wisest thing to do.

It's an insight into American attitudes to the virus I feel.

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Tell me how wrote: »

This is close to trolling at this point.

If not, it's a completely deranged mindset.

Grandparents in Ireland aren't hugging their grandchildren at the moment.

So from an Irish point of view, seeing this so publicly looks odd during a pandemic.

I think you mentioned you live in America, so perhaps you can't see from our point of view.

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Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Another day another bout of faux outrage from you :rolleyes:

This isn't outrage.

It's a comment.

Timberrrrrrrr

hotmail.com wrote: »

Grandparents in Ireland aren't hugging their grandchildren at the moment.

So from an Irish point of view, seeing this so publicly looks odd during a pandemic.

I think you mentioned you live in America, so perhaps you can't see from our point of view.

How do you know this? You know the support bubble of every grandparent in Ireland?

hotmail.com

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

How do you know this? You know the support bubble of every grandparent in Ireland?

Support bubbles are different.

hotmail.com

Any hint of negative comment on Biden and you get countless replies attacking you.

One has to question whether the Democrats are now a cult in Ireland?

Timberrrrrrrr

hotmail.com wrote: »

Support bubbles are different.

So how do you know Bidens grandchildren are not part of his bubble?

Timberrrrrrrr

hotmail.com wrote: »

Any hint of negative comment on Biden and you get countless replies attacking you.

One has to question whether the Democrats are now a cult in Ireland?

No one is "attacking" you so stop being a petty little snowflake, you make claims/comments and people pull you up on them. You claim to not be a Trump supporter yet supported him at every turn.

Every post you make is a silly little dig at Biden and when shown you are wrong you just skip to the next silly thing.

Pathetic.

duploelabs

hotmail.com wrote: »

Any hint of negative comment on Biden and you get countless replies attacking you.

One has to question whether the Democrats are now a cult in Ireland?

Bring a legitimate complaint rather than this dijon mustard-level

salmocab

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

No one is "attacking" you so stop being a petty little snowflake, you make claims/comments and people pull you up on them. You claim to not be a Trump supporter yet supported him at every turn.

Every post you make is a silly little dig at Biden and when shown you are wrong you just skip to the next silly thing.

Pathetic.

He wants to post unchallenged, free to say anything without anyone pulling him up on it.
Trump like you might say.

hotmail.com

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

No one is "attacking" you so stop being a petty little snowflake, you make claims/comments and people pull you up on them. You claim to not be a Trump supporter yet supported him at every turn.

Every post you make is a silly little dig at Biden and when shown you are wrong you just skip to the next silly thing.

Pathetic.

I'm not wrong. American attitudes to the virus is clearly catastrophic.

Hugging grandchildren so publicly as well as the large and unnecessary gathering for the inauguration itself, with hundreds flying in from everywhere, indicates to me, that Americans don't really give a toss about the virus.

Wear masks is the solution. And that's it.

pixelburp

hotmail.com wrote: »

I've not seen any leader in Europe being pictured hugging their grandchildren. World leaders will meet countless people, so my guess is that forming a bubble with extended family members isn't the wisest thing to do.

It's an insight into American attitudes to the virus I feel.

Again, support bubbles are allowed in our own current lockdown rules so yes, grandparents can feasibly share physical space with their grandchildren. Can't speak to US rules of the same applies there. And as said, my own in laws are our sole Support bubble, happily hugging their own 3mo grandson.

You choose to focus on one single event without factoring in context, history or background to make a point, so it says as much about your own bias as anything TBH. Maybe the messaging is muddled at best, but that's again only if you choose to ignore the (likely) context of action. And I'm certainly not au fait with European poltiics to say with certainty how other leaders are behaving TBH

BredonWimsey

hotmail.com wrote: »

I'm not wrong. American attitudes to the virus is clearly catastrophic.

Hugging grandchildren so publicly as well as the large and unnecessary gathering for the inauguration itself, with hundreds flying in from everywhere, indicates to me, that Americans don't really give a toss about the virus.

Wear masks is the solution. And that's it.

400,000 people died there and they held a memorial. Has Ireland held a memorial for the victims? so who cares more?


US, Canada as such are figuring out how to manage a restricted opening for its residents. Yes US has made it a cluster mess as you know who was at the helm but they have a plan - its a restricted opening. Meanwhile in Ireland its Open, Close, Close, Open, Close, Open, Close - I mean what a mess. There's only 6 million people here compared to hundreds of millions in other countries and they cant figure it out here. Come on.

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BredonWimsey wrote: »

400,000 people died there and they held a memorial. Has Ireland held a memorial for the victims? so who cares more?


US, Canada as such are figuring out how to manage a restricted opening for its residents. Yes US has made it a cluster mess as you know who was at the helm but they have a plan - its a restricted opening. Meanwhile in Ireland its Open, Close, Close, Open, Close, Open, Close - I mean what a mess. There's only 6 million people here compared to hundreds of millions in other countries and they cant figure it out here. Come on.

A memorial when the pandemic isn't even over was a publicity stunt.

Americans great for memorials and praying but aren't so great when it comes to looking after their vulnerable citizens.

Edit.. and the reason Ireland hasn't held a memorial is because large gatherings aren't advisable at the moment.

BredonWimsey

hotmail.com wrote: »

A memorial when the pandemic isn't even over was a publicity stunt.

Americans great for memorials and praying but aren't so great when it comes to looking after their vulnerable citizens.

yeah you have a valid point that it was just for show. but a less cynical opinion might be that it was the Biden administration's way of remembering the victims. Its up to yourself how you want to look at it.

pixelburp

hotmail.com wrote: »

A memorial when the pandemic isn't even over was a publicity stunt.

Americans great for memorials and praying but aren't so great when it comes to looking after their vulnerable citizens.

Edit.. and the reason Ireland hasn't held a memorial is because large gatherings aren't advisable at the moment.

It can be two things you know. Yes it was a publicity stunt - that much is obvious - but it was also a very public declaration that against the previous admin, which never actually acknowledged the suffering of its citizens, the Biden would actually take the pandemic seriously and understood the terrible milestone passed. And against the later news that Trump had NO ACTUAL plan for distributing the vaccines, or even the stockpiles they claimed to have, there needed to be a clear message sent that the new boss gave a shít. Yes it's glib and cheesy but also important at the same time, even if nominally superficial.

BredonWimsey

pixelburp wrote: »

It can be two things you know. Yes it was a publicity stunt - that much is obvious - but it was also a very public declaration that against the previous admin, which never actually acknowledged the suffering of its citizens, the Biden would actually take the pandemic seriously and understood the terrible milestone passed. And against the later news that Trump had NO ACTUAL plan for distributing the vaccines, or even the stockpiles they claimed to have, there needed to be a clear message sent that the new boss gave a shít. Yes it's glib and cheesy but also important at the same time, even if nominally superficial.

good points

BredonWimsey

hotmail.com wrote: »

A memorial when the pandemic isn't even over was a publicity stunt.

Americans great for memorials and praying but aren't so great when it comes to looking after their vulnerable citizens.

Edit.. and the reason Ireland hasn't held a memorial is because large gatherings aren't advisable at the moment.

they could have a virtual one. I think its because they never even though of it to be honest.