Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

briany

Cody montana wrote: »

They are taking it well over on thedonald.win

:eek:

Ah, the_donald. Poe's law in full effect.

road_high

Deleted User wrote: »

And will have the secondary effect of making the EU bolder in its negotiation position with the UK

Apparently Bidens first call will be to Merkel not Johnson- make of that what you will!

Overheal

There’s going to be a fair few Trump supporters that silo up and never accept the result. They will become everything they pretended to hate about people who questioned Russia’s interference in the 2016 election. They’re already deleting their FB accounts and moving to redneck Facebook (Parler sp?)

road_high

road_high wrote: »

Apparently Bidens first call will be to Merkel not Johnson- make of that what you will!

to be fair after the way trump has treated Angela Merkel is it any wonder?

I imagine biden’s first phone calls will be to world leaders who’ve been insulted by Trump to try mend that. I’m sure there’s plenty to do regarding that particular front.

Biden has a hell of a job ahead just cleaning up the mess Trump and co. left behind them.

iebamm2580

jill_valentine wrote: »

There is no meaningful distinction to make between "Oh, they wanted to actively hurt x people" vs "They would have facilitated the hurting of those people". They voted for a would-be fascist. That's a decision they are responsible for.

They found it funny when he mocked the disabled, or didn't mind it. They loved when he deliberately let people die because they were likely blue voters, or at least didn't mind it. They enjoyed his characterisation of immigrants, the deliberate separation of families, the lies about Muslims on 9/11, the lies about doctors getting paid extra for dead Covid patients, the way he talks about women and his longstanding reputation for abusing them, his sabotage of the USPS for his own ends, installation of profoundly compromised SC judges, innuendo about "second amendment people" solving his problems for him, his constant racist dogwhistling and his gladhanding of people who identify themselves as white supremacists - or least didn't mind it.

There is no way to not know what the modern GOP is now, only ways to pretend it's something else. That's a choice. They own that. It is not chest pumping to point out these people are not allies in waiting who just need to be brought around. It would be irrational to waste effort trying to court them, as Obama did. We saw what thanks he got for it from them.

There's room in the car if they want to come, but the car can't wait all day to suit them and they don't get to drive.

You saying "they" as if they are an enemy, how can you know what 70million thought of trumps antics, as mentioned many most likely didn't agree with all his talk, but agreed with some of his policies. Its not fair to tarnish all that voted for him with the one brush like its not fair to tarnish democrats as socialists radicals etc.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Even still I don’t think she’s liked enough by the US overall to elect her president tbh.

Ivanka v Kamala would be a very interesting race in 2024

y0ssar1an22

now that we are in a new day i hope i can get an answer.

what are biden's policies? (previously it was easy...not trump)

if you dont know already, there is his website

https://joebiden.com/presidency-for-all-americans/

Polar101

froog wrote: »

trump will be so butthurt he won't do a single thing on COVID for the next 3 months at the most crucial time in the pandemic. that will be his most wretched legacy.

So no change in policy since the start of the pandemic, then.

is_that_so

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I would not be so sure.

Sore loser is not a good look for your CV and there'll be plenty of young bucks and does itching to get their chance. He's now also a known quantity and it'll be four years of the pragmatic Biden later. And finally, Twitter will have cut him off!

road_high

Deleted User wrote: »

to be fair after the way trump has treated Angela Merkel is it any wonder?

I imagine biden’s first phone calls will be to world leaders who’ve been insulted by Trump to try mend that. I’m sure there’s plenty to do regarding that particular front.

Biden has a hell of a job ahead just cleaning up the mess Trump and co. left behind them.

I think it’ll be relatively easy for Biden. He has the character and personality. They know from before and by all accounts had great relations. Angela Merkel is a leader I personally greatly admire - she will be pragmatic and delighted to not have to deal with that arrogant oaf anymore

Polar101

Polar101 wrote: »

So no change in policy since the start of the pandemic, then.

Yeah I wonder why anyone’s worried about what Trump is gonna do, if he actually does something that would be a welcomed change!

Doing nothing is exactly what the problem is Biden and his administration have to rectify.

briany

Deleted User wrote: »

Even still I don’t think she’s liked enough by the US overall to elect her president tbh.

She has nothing about her. Her main conviction in life is that pretty dresses are pretty. She wouldn't be able to get up in front of a rally and get 'em all fired up. You can feed her lines, sure, but they'll be delivered in a shallow and fey way.

road_high

road_high wrote: »

I think it’ll be relatively easy for Biden. He has the character and personality. They know from before and by all accounts had great relations. Angela Merkel is a leader I personally greatly admire - she will be pragmatic and delighted to not have to deal with that arrogant oaf anymore

No doubt, still for some of the more arrogant leaders they may like to hear the sitting president apologise etc.

Or maybe boris is at the end of the list cos it’s boris Johnson. Who frankly is as big a moron as trump.

nullzero

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

now that we are in a new day i hope i can get an answer.

what are biden's policies? (previously it was easy...not trump)

if you dont know already, there is his website

https://joebiden.com/presidency-for-all-americans/

He's targeting four years of not being Donald Trump.

drunkmonkey

drunkmonkey wrote: »

You do know Trump doesn't write his tweets, it's not him.

Stop embarrassing yourself.

Polar101

Snake Plisken wrote: »

We are just pointing out the double standards yet we have posters sticking childish memes up mocking trump supporters, what we posted above is based on Biden gatherings that happened yesterday. Responsible thing to have done was for Biden and his camp to advise supporters not to gather in large groups and where they have to disperse.

Or maybe the current president could do something about it, since he is the leader of the country.

y0ssar1an22

nullzero wrote: »

He's targeting four years of not being Donald Trump.

for someone near enough clueless, can you let me know what that means exactly?

nullzero

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

for someone near enough clueless, can you let me know what that means exactly?

It means he's been elected because he's less unpopular than Trump.

Trump was elected because he was less unpopular than Hillary Clinton.

There's a symmetry to that when you think about it.

threeball

Deleted User wrote: »

to be fair after the way trump has treated Angela Merkel is it any wonder?

I imagine biden’s first phone calls will be to world leaders who’ve been insulted by Trump to try mend that. I’m sure there’s plenty to do regarding that particular front.

Biden has a hell of a job ahead just cleaning up the mess Trump and co. left behind them.

Be interesting calls to listen in on. Trump would likely explode at the content.

Overheal

Overheal wrote: »

There’s going to be a fair few Trump supporters that silo up and never accept the result. They will become everything they pretended to hate about people who questioned Russia’s interference in the 2016 election. They’re already deleting their FB accounts and moving to redneck Facebook (Parler sp?)

Which one is redneck Facebook?

Overheal

nullzero wrote: »

It means he's been elected because he's less unpopular than Trump.

Trump was elected because he was less unpopular than Hillary Clinton.

There's a symmetry to that when you think about it.

Less popular with 5 million more legal votes?

briany

nullzero wrote: »

He's targeting four years of not being Donald Trump.

https://joebiden.com/joes-vision/

y0ssar1an22

nullzero wrote: »

It means he's been elected because he's less unpopular than Trump.

Trump was elected because he was less unpopular than Hillary Clinton.

There's a symmetry to that when you think about it.

did you read my post. in no, what ideas of biden are you looking forward to?

https://joebiden.com/presidency-for-all-americans/

BonnieSituation

hotmail.com wrote: »

This election is a repeat of 2016 but this time about 1.5% of the national vote switched from a third party to Biden this time.

If anything, this election shows the enduring popularity of Trump and the lack of interest in Covid among Americans.

Why are you so interested in the American presidential election?

AllForIt

road_high wrote: »

I don’t think so. The immediate reaction had been extremely muted. The winning side very joyful. I’ve not seen any pro trump protests bar a few cracked pots outside a counting centre, mainly praying. Once the fizz goes out (which it already has) there is not going to be any widespread trouble

From the very beginning anti-Trumpers have been suggesting that something extreme was going to happen with him as president. The black female guest (forget her name) Sky News has had on for a few days said "I'm sooo glad he no longer has access to the nuclear codes". Guess she's completely forgotten he was anti-war and tried to be friendly with north korea and Russia.

jam_mac_jam

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

for someone near enough clueless, can you let me know what that means exactly?

Why do you keep asking the same question repeatedly when you have been answered?

MeMen2_MoRi_

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

now that we are in a new day i hope i can get an answer.

what are biden's policies? (previously it was easy...not trump)

if you dont know already, there is his website

https://joebiden.com/presidency-for-all-americans/

His bigly policy that has massive support, it's an easy concept that if the dog in the street was allowed to be POTUS it would get the support Joe did....

Not being trump.

You seem to have issue with people not discussing policy, is there anything specific in Joe's policy that is grating on you? Maybe share your thoughts and people may engage instead of the soapboxing "Can anyone tell me What are Joe's policies" while you link to them..

Christy42

iebamm2580 wrote: »

You saying "they" as if they are an enemy, how can you know what 70million thought of trumps antics, as mentioned many most likely didn't agree with all his talk, but agreed with some of his policies. Its not fair to tarnish all that voted for him with the one brush like its not fair to tarnish democrats as socialists radicals etc.

70 million Democrats have not voted for a socialist radical (I am not sure what one would be either).

What policies? Sticking up a moon base? That is not happening in the next 4 years no matter who the president is. Given that was the first point on the list we can be sure he had little intention of following through with anything.

We will see. Hopefully enough Trump voters disagree with Trump's antics to force Republicans to the table. I would not be hopeful.

nullzero

Overheal wrote: »

Less popular with 5 million more legal votes?

Less unpopular...

BonnieSituation

hotmail.com wrote: »

Pretending to care about Covid is no longer necessary, the election is over.

It's a good thing he didn't mention Covid or science or the fact that he's setting up a task force next week in his victory speech, isn't it?