Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

Overheal

nullzero wrote: »

Less unpopular...

My bad. It’s not unusual to read arguments that he is less popular etc. despite evidence to the contrary

iebamm2580

Christy42 wrote: »

70 million Democrats have not voted for a socialist radical (I am not sure what one would be either).

What policies? Sticking up a moon base? That is not happening in the next 4 years no matter who the president is. Given that was the first point on the list we can be sure he had little intention of following through with anything.

We will see. Hopefully enough Trump voters disagree with Trump's antics to force Republicans to the table. I would not be hopeful.

Socialists and radicals i meant. Yes my exact point that the over 70million dem voters cant all be labelled as some homogeneous group just like all trump voters cant be disregarded as racists facists etc.

bunderoon

Will be interesting to see what Trump will do in these last couple of months as regards to local and foreign policy changes.
The select few people who greatly benefited must be making their wish list.

Lolle06

AllForIt wrote: »

From the very beginning anti-Trumpers have been suggesting that something extreme was going to happen with him as president. The black female guest (forget her name) Sky News has had on for a few days said "I'm sooo glad he no longer has access to the nuclear codes". Guess she's completely forgotten he was anti-war and tried to be friendly with north korea and Russia.

He threatened NK in the beginning and also Iran.
Our blessing is that Trump himself is all mouth and no action.

nullzero

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

did you read my post. in no, what ideas of biden are you looking forward to?

https://joebiden.com/presidency-for-all-americans/

I'm not looking forward to any of them.

I neither support Biden or Trump.

Two cheeks of the same arse in the end.

VinLieger

iebamm2580 wrote: »

You saying "they" as if they are an enemy, how can you know what 70million thought of trumps antics, as mentioned many most likely didn't agree with all his talk, but agreed with some of his policies. Its not fair to tarnish all that voted for him with the one brush like its not fair to tarnish democrats as socialists radicals etc.

When you vote for someone like trump for one or two policies but not all you are at the same time excusing and saying all those other issues arent a big deal to you.


So someone who say votes for him sole on his abortion policies or the economy is at the same time saying they are okay with the racism, misogyny, corruption, bigotry etc etc

briany

One small thing... I've always said "Mish-igan", but throughout this US election, I've been hearing "Mitch-igan" a lot. I'm feeling a bit of the Mandela effect.

y0ssar1an22

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Why do you keep asking the same question repeatedly when you have been answered?

maybe i missed the answer (if so, my apologies). what are joe's policies that he ran on that you support?

to stop annoying everyone else, i will just ask you

iebamm2580

VinLieger wrote: »

When you vote for someone like trump for one or two policies but not all you are at the same time excusing and saying all those other issues arent a big deal to you.


So someone who say votes for him sole on his abortion policies or the economy is at the same time saying they are okay with the racism, misogyny, corruption, bigotry etc etc

No they are not saying they are ok with everything else, its not that black and white and to paint as such is not helping, each individual has there own circumstances and priorities, that's just life.

is_that_so

bunderoon wrote: »

Will be interesting to see what Trump will do in these last couple of months as regards to local and foreign policy changes.
The select few people who greatly benefited must be making their wish list.

I'd expect him to do little except sulk and sue.

Tell me how

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

now that we are in a new day i hope i can get an answer.

what are biden's policies? (previously it was easy...not trump)

if you dont know already, there is his website

https://joebiden.com/presidency-for-all-americans/

At this point I am concerned about the capacity of your mental faculties to deal with this.

You're like a software program which repeatedly fails to run a database lookup and reports an error found.

I and several others have already answered this and yet you are asking the same question like you think it is some deviously clever tactic.

So, given you have found his website on which his policies are listed, why do you keep asking what are his policies? Should we send help? Is there someone you want us to call? Should you consider an ECDL course to help you figure out how to navigate a website?

Edgware

is_that_so wrote: »

That's doubtful. Even McConnell, back in September, said there would be an orderly transition. Trump needs to be steered to that ground and that could take a while.

All this talk about Trumps Supreme Court nominees standing up for him in a legal challenge is rubbish. These Judges were well up in judicial circles ever before Trump came near power. They have more respect for the U.S. Constitution and wont jeopardise their legacy by being labelled as the Judges who saved that clown against the democratic wishes of the American people. The Republican leadership will have to work hard to isolate Trump so that neither he or his offspring run in 2024

Loafing Oaf

Lolle06 wrote: »

Well, so far, Biden and his team were good role models of how to act in this pandemic (not holding large rallies, wearing masks, distancing etc.), he also held a presser on the COVID situation on the 5th (when did Trump mention COVID last?).

But he can’t police the people!

But mask- wearing is definitely important to reduce the risk of spreading. More so than social distancing.

Presumably that means if you're already in some sort of group setting, it's more important to wear a mask than to keep six feet apart. But if you're not going anywhere near other people in the first place, it's virtually impossible to catch the virus. These group celebrations were in no sense 'essential' and should not have been happening at all. Fully accept that Biden is not orchestrating or encouraging them, but I stand by my point that he and Harris are not doing enough to actively discourage them.

BonnieSituation

Snake Plisken wrote: »

We are just pointing out the double standards yet we have posters sticking childish memes up mocking trump supporters, what we posted above is based on Biden gatherings that happened yesterday. Responsible thing to have done was for Biden and his camp to advise supporters not to gather in large groups and where they have to disperse.

"We have suddenly discovered the concept of hypocrisy and are making sure we hold you to a standard we've just decided to embrace in the last 24hrs for like, reasons..."

drogon.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1325308714505613312?s=21

Kidchameleon

BonnieSituation wrote: »

"We have suddenly discovered the concept of hypocrisy and are making sure we hold you to a standard we've just decided to embrace in the last 24hrs for like, reasons..."

I personally think they are right to gather and celebrate if that's what they want to do, the restrictions are a joke IMHO

bunderoon

is_that_so wrote: »

I'd expect him to do little except sulk and sue.

I'd say the sulking will last a week or so. While that's happening, those who whisper in his ear will plant ideas and suggestions.
Then the penny will drop about trying to create ways to profit from the time he has left.
And of course, the guys that got him there in the first place will want the last bit of benefit they can squeeze from him.

omega man

Did Giuliani and co actually mix up their four seasons press conference location? They couldn’t have, could they??!!

salmocab

Remember the genius who was a Biden supporter but slowly came round to being a Trump supporter over about 4 days then when he got banned put up a post of MAGA baby I’ll be back in November to gloat. I wonder where he is.

weisses

Kidchameleon wrote: »

He gained 8 million voters since 2016 & there is still a path to voctory for him

Biden gained over 10 million vs Hillary 2016 ... What path are you desperately clinging onto ?

km991148

bunderoon wrote: »

I'd say the sulking will last a week or so. While that's happening, those who whisper in his ear will plant ideas and suggestions.
Then the penny will drop about trying to create ways to profit from the time he has left.
And of course, the guys that got him there in the first place will want the last bit of benefit they can squeeze from him.

He doesn't care about primarily for profit. Plus that means having to admit he lost.


People can try and rationalise this, but he will never, ever admit that. Blame and law suits. No responsibility. I doubt he even has the ability to admit to a failing. Like asking someone with two broken legs to sprint across a field. Impossible.

namloc1980

Joe's lead in Georgia is now gone over 10k - well beyond the margin that might change on a recount.

cnocbui

AllForIt wrote: »

From the very beginning anti-Trumpers have been suggesting that something extreme was going to happen with him as president. The black female guest (forget her name) Sky News has had on for a few days said "I'm sooo glad he no longer has access to the nuclear codes". Guess she's completely forgotten he was anti-war and tried to be friendly with north korea and Russia.

I wouldn't go mentioning Trumps abject failure regarding North Korea.

Tell me how

omega man wrote: »

Did Giuliani and co actually mix up their four seasons press conference location? They couldn’t have, could they??!!

I was shocked as well, but apparently, it's true. Incredible stuff. The idea that it wasn't copped when the booking was being made makes me think it was done on purpose probably by someone who dropped their Trump campaign credentials badge in a bin and went to one of the celebration parades for the afternoon.

omega man

omega man wrote: »

Did Giuliani and co actually mix up their four seasons press conference location? They couldn’t have, could they??!!

I'd recommend spending a minute or two looking around that area on street imagery, it is glorious. The crematorium across the street, the adult store nearby, the general desolation and insignificance of the street. A true sight to behold. :pac:

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0263139,-75.0305298,3a,75y,113.51h,91.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svG8OYvcYJTt-r59K97Yv6A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

MeMen2_MoRi_

The right tell ya that they're against cancel culture.


Also The right...


https://ibb.co/jVDMwcW


:pac:

km991148

MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »

The right tell ya that they're against cancel culture.


Also The right...


https://ibb.co/jVDMwcW


:pac:

No news, no delivery of bad results.

A bit like no COVID tests, no COVID case numbers.

The logic is impeccable.

BringBackMick

Dons looking for a re-election going by his wake up tweet/quote

Christy42

iebamm2580 wrote: »

Socialists and radicals i meant. Yes my exact point that the over 70million dem voters cant all be labelled as some homogeneous group just like all trump voters cant be disregarded as racists facists etc.

Again. 70 million people didn't vote for a radical democrat, it was a pretty moderate ticket from the Democrats. 70 million people were happy enough to vote for a racist. Therein lies the key difference. People keep going well there are extreme Democrats somewhere behind a keyboard while making that out to be equivalent to Trump who is an extremist who also has a lot of votes.

I think a lot of the Biden voters would be pretty happy with the socialist tag and would see it as a compliment (oh no! You are insinuating I care for other people). They probably aren't all socialists but as a generalisation it isn't terrible.

I have no idea where the US goes from here. I am hopeful the Biden will be able to get a toned down Republican party and that their followers will mostly follow but it will be difficult to bring them back to the table.

Especially with republican leadership unwilling to call out the extremists in their own party (and before it is mentioned Biden has repeatedly called out the rioters of the last few months).

jam_mac_jam

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

maybe i missed the answer (if so, my apologies). what are joe's policies that he ran on that you support?

to stop annoying everyone else, i will just ask you

There were multiple answers to your question. I doubt you missed them.

Main thing for me would be his environment policies such as the Paris agreement and rolling back some of the regulations abandoned during Trump's presidency.

I don't support Biden. I support the Bernie part of the party. I don't support the actions of Obama's presidency.