Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

namloc1980

Donnie is awake and tweeting. Still banging the same drum about fraud etc. What a sore loser he truly is.

Lolle06

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Presumably that means if you're already in some sort of group setting, it's more important to wear a mask than to keep six feet apart. But if you're not going anywhere near other people in the first place, it's virtually impossible to catch the virus. These group celebrations were in no sense 'essential' and should not have been happening at all. Fully accept that Biden is not orchestrating or encouraging them, but I stand by my point that he and Harris are not doing enough to actively discourage them.

I do think that these people felt the need to show Trump & his supporters that there are in fact a lot of Biden voters out there - it wasn’t “fake news” or “illegal votes”. That Biden IS popular and Trump IS unpopular.

If Trump wouldn’t have started his nonsense about the “legal” voting numbers, a large part of these people might have rather stayed home?

Edit to add: You shouldn’t forget Trump himself made fun about Biden’s *car rallys* with only a handful of participants. I have seen numerous claims by Trump supporters, that Biden couldn’t pull the amount of votes he got, if they were only 12 cars attending his rallies.

Biden voters needed to show themselves publicly.

omega man

Tell me how wrote: »

I was shocked as well, but apparently, it's true. Incredible stuff. The idea that it wasn't copped when the booking was being made makes me think it was done on purpose probably by someone who dropped their Trump campaign credentials badge in a bin and went to one of the celebration parades for the afternoon.

It’s plausible as there is a four seasons and conference centre there. It was a carpark next door to a sex shop as some have reported. Highlights their total incompetence. Guiliani is tapped.

MeMen2_MoRi_

km991148 wrote: »

No news, no delivery of bad results.

A bit like no COVID tests, no COVID case numbers.

The logic is impeccable.

We'll defend trump holding super spreader event's...

Also, we'll now critise Joe for holding an event

Kidchameleon

weisses wrote: »

Biden gained over 10 million vs Hillary 2016 ... What path are you desperately clinging onto ?

Read my OP again, it gives better context. I'm not going back and finding it for you. Good luck.

is_that_so

bunderoon wrote: »

I'd say the sulking will last a week or so. While that's happening, those who whisper in his ear will plant ideas and suggestions.
Then the penny will drop about trying to create ways to profit from the time he has left.
And of course, the guys that got him there in the first place will want the last bit of benefit they can squeeze from him.

The Guardian have a piece on it, but all just opinions.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/08/donald-trump-lame-duck-damage-dangerous

Carfacemandog

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

pick people based on their merits. if he picks people for any other reason, i will know he's gone too far to the left.

No you won't.

If he appoints his children and their husbands/wives to these positions without them being at all qualified, will that be too far left?

If he appoints white supremacists to key advisory roles and retains them even after they are outed, will that be too far left?

If he appoints and AG not to actually do the job of attorney general but instead to act as his legal bodyguard - even outright lying in order to do so - will that be too far left?

If he packs the courts with right wing judges, even if they are not qualified for the roles and have never tried cases before in their lives, will that be too far left?

If he puts someone in charge of the department of energy who is on record as wanting to get rid of the department of energy, would that be too far left?

If he puts wall street directly in charge if the treasury, will that be too far left?

If he puts wealthy donors with absolutely zero interest in, competency at, or time for their departments (such as education) who then do every bit as intentionally awful as expected, will that be too far left?

If he starts putting Steve Bannons mates into key positions that they have no proper experience in, like when Sebastian gorka was named deputy assistant to the president, will that be too far left?

If he put someone in charge of the Environmental Protection Agency that openly hated and had repeatedly tried to sue the EPA over a dozen times, would that be too far left?

If he put Turkish foreign agents in as his National Security Advisor and defended them when they were outed as such because that foreign agent appeared loyal to him (despite actual loyalties to another country), would that be too far left?

If Biden out a surgeon in charge of Housing and Urban Development whose sole qualification was "loyal", would that be too far left?

If he outright sells ambassador roles abroad to the highest bidder, will that be too far left?

On an on the list goes.

Even doing all these things would not cross the threshold you have laid out. This is where blindly supporting trunp for the last 4 years has utterly fcuked any credibility you have going forward when it comes to complaining about how Biden runs the white house, or who he appoints to any roles.

MeMen2_MoRi_

MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »

We'll defend trump holding super spreader event's...

Also, we'll now critise Joe for holding an event

He held an event in the same fashion to all his others. A drive in rally, where you’re supposed to social distance by staying in your car.

But to gloss over the fact SOME Biden supporters broke protocol once to celebrate with him. For a group that’s actively followed the guidelines issued by government and ignored the trump advice they’re getting an awful lot of **** for one rally.

omega man

omega man wrote: »

It’s plausible as there is a four seasons and conference centre there. It was a carpark next door to a sex shop as some have reported. Highlights their total incompetence. Guiliani is tapped.

Only the best people.

I imagine most republican politicians have a difficult decision to make. Side with Trump and his ramblings and thereby increase the risk in losing the majority in the Senate with these two runoff elections in Georgia, or distance themselves from Trump, accept defeat and start fresh in 2024.

The smart thing is obviously the latter, but whether they can swallow their pride and do that is another matter.

drogon.

omega man wrote: »

Did Giuliani and co actually mix up their four seasons press conference location? They couldn’t have, could they??!!

I have a feeling it was on purpose, my gut tells me they are very short on cash. Trump campaign have been struggling to raise fund in the last few months of the campaign.

Looks any money collected for the recount/battle - 50% of it will go to campaign's general election debt and the remains to fight for the re-election

But a disclaimer on the website states that 50% of any donation will go toward the campaign's general election debt retirement and the other half toward the campaign's recount account, the Wall Street Journal first reported.

A separate fundraising effort by the "Trump Make America Great Again Committee" states that 60% of contributions will go toward campaign debt while 40% goes to the RNC.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/07/trump-email-fundraising-would-pay-campaign-debt-fine-print-says/6202250002/

lemonTrees

Deleted User wrote: »

I imagine most republican politicians have a difficult decision to make. Side with Trump and his ramblings and thereby increase the risk in losing the majority in the Senate with these two runoff elections in Georgia, or distance themselves from Trump, accept defeat and start fresh in 2024.

The smart thing is obviously the latter, but whether they can swallow their pride and do that is another matter.

I think somewhere in the back of their mind they'll be crapping themselves that Trump will be back in 2024 with his own independent run at the job. That will be their main concern.

weisses

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Read my OP again, it gives better context. I'm not going back and finding it for you. Good luck.

I did .... waffle added with more waffle

drogon.

drogon. wrote: »

I have a feeling it was on purpose, my gut tells me they are very short on cash. Trump campaign have been struggling to raise fund in the last few months of the campaign.

Looks any money collected for the recount/battle - 60% of it will go to the RNC to pay of debt and the remains to fight for the re-election



https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/07/trump-email-fundraising-would-pay-campaign-debt-fine-print-says/6202250002/

I agree with you that they're the short of money, but I think that it's too much of a coincidence that the place it was held at shares a similar name to a place where it would be more typical to hold such an event, as well as the fact that Trump tweeted "Four Seasons" as well. There are plenty of more sensible and pleasant places they could have held it for free (or at least as cheap), why there?

namloc1980

Deleted User wrote: »

I imagine most republican politicians have a difficult decision to make. Side with Trump and his ramblings and thereby increase the risk in losing the majority in the Senate with these two runoff elections in Georgia, or distance themselves from Trump, accept defeat and start fresh in 2024.

The smart thing is obviously the latter, but whether they can swallow their pride and do that is another matter.

They are wary of the 70m that voted for Trump. Like it or not Trump will remain a serious thorn in the side of Republicans for years to come. He could tell his supporters to vote against incumbent Republicans in primaries etc. They have a problem with Trumpism that's going to be hard to eradicate. They deserve to have this problem.

Concannon7

briany wrote: »

One small thing... I've always said "Mish-igan", but throughout this US election, I've been hearing "Mitch-igan" a lot. I'm feeling a bit of the Mandela effect.

You and me both man. A guy at work the other day kept saying Mitch-igan and I felt like correcting him but didn't. Luckily because all I kept hearing on the tv from then on was Mich-igan and I'm asking myself was I pronouncing it wrong all these years!

FintanMcluskey

Great news for Ireland from an economic point of view that Biden was successful.

The reasons most were cheering him on seems to be be purely personality based however.

Trump should keep his mouth shut, the door will reopen in 2024, Bidens taking the helm of a sinking ship.

Unfortunately politics are mundane again, I often smiled at Trumps outrageous tweets over the past few years

namloc1980

Kidchameleon wrote: »

He gained 8 million voters since 2016 & there is still a path to voctory for him

Any chance you'd spell out this path to victory as you see it?

iebamm2580

Christy42 wrote: »

Again. 70 million people didn't vote for a radical democrat, it was a pretty moderate ticket from the Democrats. 70 million people were happy enough to vote for a racist. Therein lies the key difference. People keep going well there are extreme Democrats somewhere behind a keyboard while making that out to be equivalent to Trump who is an extremist who also has a lot of votes.

I think a lot of the Biden voters would be pretty happy with the socialist tag and would see it as a compliment (oh no! You are insinuating I care for other people). They probably aren't all socialists but as a generalisation it isn't terrible.

I have no idea where the US goes from here. I am hopeful the Biden will be able to get a toned down Republican party and that their followers will mostly follow but it will be difficult to bring them back to the table.

Especially with republican leadership unwilling to call out the extremists in their own party (and before it is mentioned Biden has repeatedly called out the rioters of the last few months).

Again 70million people didn't voter for trump because they are racist, fascists etc .I doubt many biden voters supporters would like the socialist tag.Look we wont agree thats fair enough, you are wiling to tarnish 70milion people with the one brush and i am not, some elected democrats have said themselves that no body in the party should ever say defund the police again because some congress people were lost because of far left rhetoric in the party. Its not only the republican side that need to be toned down.

Lolle06

Lolle06 wrote: »

I tend to agree.
Not all of the Trump- voters are completely lost.
Some of them just believed the fear-mongering lies that Trump spouted constantly about the “other side”.
Once they see that the democratic gov doesn’t turn the USA into a socialist, baby-eating, Soros- run society, some of them will mellow.

What some of the 71 million deplorable racist monsters who voted for Trump are saveable. Just a few mind.

Let me tell you, the vast vast majority of his voters are ordinary decent people.

timsey tiger

namloc1980 wrote: »

Any chance you'd spell out this path to victory as you see it?

voctory is not victory. Voctory is when you lie about beating a 12 year old at golf.

drogon.

Deleted User wrote: »

I agree with you that they're the short of money, but I think that it's too much of a coincidence that the place it was held at shares a similar name to a place where it would be more typical to hold such an event, as well as the fact that Trump tweeted "Four Seasons" as well. There are plenty of more sensible and pleasant places they could have held it for free (or at least as cheap), why there?

Owner of the place is a big Trump fan. Doesn't make sense that the place will allow their campaign to hold a press conference otherwise.

drogon.

drogon. wrote: »

Owner of the place is a big Trump fan. Doesn't make sense that the place will allow their campaign to hold a press conference otherwise.

Yeah but there are plenty of hotels, conference centres etc. owned by republicans in Philadelphia. So why there of all places?

Lolle06

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What some of the 71 million deplorable racist monsters who voted for Trump are saveable. Just a few mind.

Let me tell you, the vast vast majority of his voters are ordinary decent people.

I guess we will see how many “saveable” there are over the next few years.

bazermc

John King still going on CNN with his magic wall live even though early morning.

What a legend

DrumSteve

Deleted User wrote: »

What some of the 71 million deplorable racist monsters who voted for Trump are saveable. Just a few mind.

Let me tell you, the vast vast majority of his voters are ordinary decent people.

If they vote for him, they find it acceptable to vote for someone with his history. If I described trump and his actions without naming him, would they be described as decent?

funnydoggy

https://twitter.com/galactafenty/status/1325176507443142656

Hilarious and very wholesome!

wes

MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »

The right tell ya that they're against cancel culture.


Also The right...


https://ibb.co/jVDMwcW


:pac:

The right accuses people of the stuff they are doing, is because they can't fathom other people not being corrupt.

vojiwox

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

did you read my post. in no, what ideas of biden are you looking forward to?

https://joebiden.com/presidency-for-all-americans/

The not the divide and instead unify sounds good.

What about you, which of Biden's are you most looking forward to?

funnydoggy

funnydoggy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/galactafenty/status/1325176507443142656

Hilarious and very wholesome!

Foux Du FaFa.