Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

Baggly

Deleted User wrote: »

I know Boards has an ignore list, but it would be great if it was more powerful and we could simply tick a box to hide all posts by those registered within the past month.

Although, I would miss reading their saltiness.

duploelabs wrote: »

A simple register to read the charter like they have for the soccer forum would solve it, also a minimum post count to be able to post

Mod

Both of you can take a day off from the thread to consider your posting in regards to:

1) Talking about ignoring users is definitely OT and also uncivil
2) Feedback belongs in the feedback forum

duploelabs

PirateShampoo wrote: »

What? So since Thursday Biden has cured Covid.?

Just like Trump's economic figures after Obama

namloc1980

PirateShampoo wrote: »

What? So since Thursday Biden has cured Covid.?

Sure why not. Trump took credit for the economic figures he inherited from Obama so no reason why Joe shouldn't take credit for the Covid vaccine now.

ohnonotgmail

walshb wrote: »

Two good articles in the indo from yesterday sum up Trump well

One for Joseph O'Connor on page 21, and one from Joe Brolly

Brolly on Trump: Trump is an appalling human being who would burn your family alive for a round of applause.

I now dislike Trump even more. he is making me agree with Joe brolly

hotmail.com

walshb wrote: »

Two good articles in the indo from yesterday sum up Trump well

One for Joseph O'Connor on page 21, and one from Joe Brolly

Brolly on Trump: Trump is an appalling human being who would burn your family alive for a round of applause.

Brolly another Irish expert on US affairs.

ohnonotgmail

hotmail.com wrote: »

Brolly another Irish expert on US affairs.

you dont need to be an expert on US affairs to know that trump is a terrible person.

vojiwox

PirateShampoo wrote: »

What? So since Thursday Biden has cured Covid.?

Well let's not jinx it! But it's looking good

robinph

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prunudo

What was the end result with Trump's supposed interview on Fox in the early hours. Was it never happening or did somebody have a change of mind?

ohnonotgmail

robinph wrote: »

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Chris_Heilong

Deleted User wrote: »

Just to save someone time, here's how the responses to this will go.

*Do you have a source for any of these accusations?*

*Dude it's very obvious that this happened. Are you blind to the truth?*

*Yes but do you have a source?*

*Provides link to trumpisthebest.org/thefraudisreal or something*

*Dude that was debunked days ago. Got any other sources?*

*Well yes here! cnn.com/fourballotsmisplaced*

*Dude, that is normal in any election, and the same thing happened to both red and blue votes. This would have been spotted anyway on the second or third levels of inspection.*

*User goes quiet or moves on to something else.*

This is the response to most things in political forums, As all sources seem to be partisan if you are on the other side of the argument all the sources you will watch/read will be ignored by your opposition and vice versa, In an ideal world all the American news should run with what Trump is saying and investigate, if everything is fake then show why but at the moment they just choose to purposely ignore it as they are afraid, this will not satisfy the millions of people who support Trump, A clean election with a clear winner would have, but that is not what happened.

walshb

hotmail.com wrote: »

Brolly another Irish expert on US affairs.

No need to be an expert on anything U.S. to know what kind of man Trump is

This is part of the whole nonsense.

People trying to find stuff to explain his good points, or why he is the right man.

He is a truly horrible type character...

That is all people should see, know, realize....

Oh, as well as being a useless politician...

Timberrrrrrrr

I love that Trump is still tweeting the same nonsense as if it will make any difference to him being beaten

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1325778096151203843?s=19

Inquitus

Unsurprisingly the Trump Phone Line for gathering information about voter fraud has turned into a priceless way for Biden supporters to mercilessly troll Trump and team

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1325249542325989376

MeMen2_MoRi_

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

This is the response to most things in political forums, As all sources seem to be partisan if you are on the other side of the argument all the sources you will watch/read will be ignored by your opposition and vice versa, In an idea world all the American news should run with what Trump is saying and investigate, if everything is fake then show why but at the moment they just choose to purposely ignore it as they are afraid, this will not satisfy the millions of people who support Trump, A clean election with a clear winner would have, but that is not what happened.

You speak of the things you won't do yourself.. Go look at the court records of the cases trump lawyers have filed, have had their cases thrown out and why they were thrown out..

His wins from the court cases have been... Having a definition of "distance" it was judged that it should be 6ft in keeping with covid guidelines..

The other biggly win was.. votes separated (but still being counted, just seperately)

Professor Moriarty

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I love that Trump is still tweeting the same nonsense as if it will make any difference to him being beaten

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1325778096151203843?s=19

The irony is that his loss is playing its part in the stock market rising.

briany

Trump campaign has just released a full and frank document outlining their kase alleging massive widespread postal ballot fraud. They hope to get it to the Supreme Court within the month. Here's the first couple of pages.



So, from looking at that, my initial impression is that the case is thin, full of holes and stinks.

robinph

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

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Don't think that is the actual company who deserve the credit and money for this, just someone else online cashing in on the landscaping companies name and stealing their name and logo.

VinLieger

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

this will not satisfy the millions of people who support Trump, A clean election with a clear winner would have, but that is not what happened.

It was Trump and his supporters fault that this was not a clean election, who sowed doubt in the process? Who lied about fraud and the results? Who is refusing to accept the result?


Ohh btw there absolutely was a clean winner, the only reason we went through the chaos of 4 days of counting was thanks to republican legislatures refusing to allow early counting of mail in ballots. IF early counting had been allowed in all states Biden would have been announced as the clear undoubted winner on Wednesday.

Loafing Oaf

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I now dislike Trump even more. he is making me agree with Joe brolly

FYI the bould Brolly has particular reasons to cheer for the other side...

osarusan

I think what Trump has shown is that a candidate can be far more crass and downright obnoxious and still get votes that was previously imagined.

We might have thought that stuff like the Obama birther crap, 'Grab em by the pussy', 'Liberate X', describing some African countries as 'sh!thole countries' (and that's just a selection) would be enough to alienate a certain chunk the electorate, but it turns out that's not the case.

It turns out that the degree of polarization is so great that there is a much higher bar for what will actually alienate potential voters, and that they will vote for their candidate (albeit perhaps holding their nose as they do so) almost without exception.

The BBC had an article just before the election, in which different voters explained their vote. One was a woman who had invented some kind of Lego accessory - a playmat that folded into a carry bag, something like that - and she was concerned over Chines companies making cheap knockoffs of her product, and was voting for Trump as she felt he'd be tougher on that issue.

We might like to imagine that people will look at a bigger picture, but that's an example of just how narrow the range of issues which determine somebody's vote might be. And we in Ireland, with our Healy-Raes, are no strangers to that either.

saneman

The Nal wrote: »

There already has been, George W.

Trump actually got a lot of stuff done - tax, ISIS, federal judges, environmental rollbacks, space force etc - but wasn't as widely reported as it should've been with the Wall and Twitter and the general chaos.

Hes left a huge lasting legacy on the US legal system and (very negatively) on the environment.

I'm fairly sure I created that on the playground in 1983, granted I had to mothball it when going into 6th Class

MadYaker

yourdeadwright wrote: »

One thing that we have learned there are what 70 million pissed of Republicans and not one City has been burned or looted, Im not sure that same would be the case if the Democrats lost

How many cities burned in 2016 when Trump lost the popular vote and won the presidency?

This is all ye have left I suppose.

Carfacemandog

ForestFire wrote: »

I think the representation of the vote in the US is highly skewed now and that could be readjusted?

It is comucally skewed and has been going that way since the 1920s, when they voted to stop reapportioning house representatives based on changing demographics, which is absolutely bananas.

As a result of this, Americans are the least represented nation in the OECD with 1 representative for every 720,000 residents (to show to wildly out of whack that it, Ireland is in the 20-50k range, Scandinavian countries are around 20k, the UK is approx 100k and Australia is 162k).

Then you've got the obvious problem of how this feeds in their electoral college system (538 = 100 senators, 435 house representatives, plus 3 EC votes for DC), leading us to situations where a voter in Wyoming or Delaware is seen as being about 3.5-4 times as important as a voter in California or Texas, which is where the system goes from bad to 'completely broken' and which is, along with a sustained, concerted and extraordinarily effective effort to hurt educational standards, is why America is at less of a crossroads and more of a T-junction whereby making no corrections is going to see then crashing straight into a wall (...again).

briany

VinLieger wrote: »

Ohh btw there absolutely was a clean winner, the only reason we went through the chaos of 4 days of counting was thanks to republican legislatures refusing to allow early counting of mail in ballots. IF early counting had been allowed in all states Biden would have been announced as the clear undoubted winner on Wednesday.

You know how people were saying that the Republican party would abandon Trump once he lost the election? But these were the same people who legislated that postal votes would be counted last in order to help Trump crow about fraud and thereby attempted to fundamentally undermine faith in the democratic process? Sound like fully paid-up Trumpists to me.

ohnonotgmail

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

FYI the bould Brolly has particular reasons to cheer for the other side...

??

Polar101

Billy Mays wrote: »

The Dems were so careless with their cheating not only did they put "Biden/Harris" on this van carrying phantom ballots they filled them in at the counting centre instead of just doing it before they got there :eek:

If you look at the van carefully, it actually says "Biden/Harris - election fraud vehicle". A lot of people are saying it, so it's clear and irrefutable evidence.

Quin_Dub

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

This is the response to most things in political forums, As all sources seem to be partisan if you are on the other side of the argument all the sources you will watch/read will be ignored by your opposition and vice versa, In an idea world all the American news should run with what Trump is saying and investigate, if everything is fake then show why but at the moment they just choose to purposely ignore it as they are afraid, this will not satisfy the millions of people who support Trump, A clean election with a clear winner would have, but that is not what happened.

Investigate what though?

There has been absolutely Zero evidence put forward as to how or why any of the things they are talking about would impact the results.

Basically they seem have 3 main angles.

Late Arriving Ballots in PA are "illegal" - They aren't (yet), multiple courts have said they are fine thus far . But more importantly , Counted or not Counted , they do not change the result. Biden is already ahead by 45k+ votes with them not yet included.

So , it's a possibly valid argument to have in terms of PA Electoral law for future elections. It is absolutely not a reason to hold up the Transition of Power to the new administration.


"Dead People" Voted (Mostly in Nevada it would seem ) - Again , absolutely zero evidence here. Yes , there are dead people still on the Electoral Register , but that does not mean that a vote was cast in their name and it certainly doesn't mean that the requisite 10,00 plus votes needed to change the Nevada result are all dead people.

"Out of State" people voted (again , seemingly Nevada) - This seems to be based on the fact that a large number of people moved out of Nevada due to the lay-offs in the Hotel/Casino business. That may be true , but for those votes to be illegal they would have to show that those people registered to vote somewhere else. Not living in the state does not make their vote illegal (Trump voting in Florida anyone?). Again - Are their 10,000 people that left Nevada during the shut-down and that re-registered to vote somewhere else??

For the last two - It's all about the evidence and so far there has been absolutely none put forward. The few pathetic affidavits etc. that they have brought forward in the 10 cases that they've had already show that they have absolutely nothing.

I won't even dignify the "burning ballots" and "Truck loads of fake ballots" tripe with analysis.

astrofool

The funny thing is, by comparing trump to the healy-raes, it's really really hard to figure out who's on the worse end of that comparison

Carfacemandog

Laois_Man wrote: »

You can complain about the electoral college system all you want but it's not gonna change without both party's agreeing to it. Republicans wont ever agree coz they'd lose more elections. Dems wont ever get to change it on their own coz they'd need a 75% majority in the senate to pass a change to article 2 of the constitution. Ain't ever gonna happen!

But that sounds less like both parties agreeing to stick with the EC system, and more like one party (Republicans) refusing to get rid of it while the other is unable to do so without bipartisan help?