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Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,777 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Trumps scorched earth coming to pass.

    This is going to end with deaths

    Michael Flynn is back in. General Anthony Tata, who is a certifiable lunatic who said the former CIA director John Brennan should be hung, is in as head of policy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭metaoblivia


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Trumps scorched earth coming to pass.

    This is going to end with deaths

    There's also a theory that this is a cover up attempt and he's bringing in people to destroy documentation before he's ousted and becomes a regular citizen again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Why is it strange? In elections past, the projected winner has always been referred to as the President-elect once the race has been informally called. Why should that change just because Trump is throwing a tantrum and desperately looking for nonexistence evidence in an attempt to put more money in his pockets, divide the American people and undermine our institutions of democracy? Why should we kowtow to his delusions? Biden is the President-elect. Trump is a lame duck. That's the reality of the situation.

    The president elect is determined by the general services administration not the media. The GSA have not said Biden is the president elect.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    So you finally admit Biden won?

    He hasnt won yet. He will win. Semantics I know but...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    The GSA acknowledged Trump as the winner on November 9th in 2016. Why do you think they are holding out now, Kidchameleon? Because there are credible accusations of fraud that mean the winner is not yet known, or because they are a Trump appointee and toeing his line?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭metaoblivia


    The president elect is determined by the general services administration not the media. The GSA have not said Biden is the president elect.

    At the behest of the current President who refuses to accept reality. Just because the GSA refuses to do their job doesn't mean the rest of the world has to go along with the latest farce from this administration.


  • Registered Users Posts: 36,374 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/in.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN27Q3ED

    80% of American adults think Biden won the election. Of the 20% who don’t, most see it as still undecided. Only 3% reckon Trump won.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,777 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog




  • Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭eastie17


    The president elect is determined by the general services administration not the media. The GSA have not said Biden is the president elect.

    Yes because Chairman Trumps administration won’t sign the forms.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,596 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    The president elect is determined by the general services administration not the media. The GSA have not said Biden is the president elect.

    The writing is on the wall for Trump, just like it was last time around for Hillary Clinton.

    It is very clear that:

    1) The GSA will declare that Biden is the president elect.
    2) Trump will be unable to produce any credible evidence of mass voter fraud.
    3) Any recounts will produce results that differ only by very negligible amounts of insufficient quantity to have any impact on the outcome for any state.
    4) Any recounts are just as likely to increase the vote count for Biden as it is for Trump.
    5) Despite the fact that Trump has convinced himself that he has supreme court judges "in his pocket" this is not the case. I would expect them to be impartial.
    6) Trump's mask is slipping resulting in many of his supporters including senior members of the GOP abandoning him.
    7) It is very obvious that if the Democrats were involved in voter fraud they would have taken the Senate while they were at it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,480 ✭✭✭francois




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    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/in.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN27Q3ED

    80% of American adults think Biden won the election. Of the 20% who don’t, most see it as still undecided. Only 3% reckon Trump won.

    I wonder what percentage of those 20% had a bet on and are thinking with their wallet rather than their brain?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,809 ✭✭✭Mr Velo




  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Mr Velo wrote: »
    That's a 16m TED Talk and TBH he could have done it in a lot less time, interesting though what he says but it does require a lot of things to fall into place, none of which are really happening. Even if Trump is dragging his heels once certification occurs in states it's game over. His own comments seem to be hinting at a week of this litigious flailing first.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


    Mr Velo wrote: »

    Is he still crying like a first year drama student?


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    darced wrote: »
    Is he still crying like a first year drama student?
    In fairness he has a lot of passion about his positions and one can't really guess how people feel they have been affected by Trumpism. That said he loves the sound of his own opinions!


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,236 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    We need a Donald press conference.

    Where is he hiding?


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,314 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Purging civilian military authorities is a classic authoritarian move. If we saw this in any other country we'd know what we were looking at. Yet Republicans stand by and cheer on the man-child in the White House.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,314 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Boggles wrote: »
    We need a Donald press conference.

    Where is he hiding?

    Called a lid 5 days in a row now. Sleepy Donald is in his bunker.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,470 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    dasdog wrote: »
    What a surprise. His go fund me has $134,981 and counting.

    https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-richard-hopkins-the-erie-pa-whistleblower

    that campaign is now gone


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,485 ✭✭✭harr


    Boggles wrote: »
    We need a Donald press conference.

    Where is he hiding?
    Behind his iPhone , still tweeting the same rubbish.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,470 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    J. Marston wrote: »
    Gravy Seals.

    Meal Team 6


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  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Purging civilian military authorities is a classic authoritarian move. If we saw this in any other country we'd know what we were looking at. Yet Republicans stand by and cheer on the man-child in the White House.
    They are victims here as well, in a very very loose sense! He's still in place for another 9-10 weeks and they may feel going against him is unwise but there are some who will endorse him indefinitely.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,236 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Purging civilian military authorities is a classic authoritarian move. If we saw this in any other country we'd know what we were looking at. Yet Republicans stand by and cheer on the man-child in the White House.

    According to some, the "silent" Republicans are hoping he throws his tantrum for 2 weeks and then fúcks off without damaging them too much.

    That's where the Grand Old Party are at 2020.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,099 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Boggles wrote: »
    According to some, the "silent" Republicans are hoping he throws his tantrum for 2 weeks and then fúcks off without damaging them too much.

    That's where the Grand Old Party are at 2020.

    They have now reached the point the rest of us were at 4+ years ago then with each day saying "He did what?" an hoping "But surely we're OK as he'll not do X" and then a week later "He's what? Surely nobody would ever do X and then Y? At least we have the protection of Z to stop anything really bad happening"

    "What, he can't have just done Z can he".

    An interventions is going to be needed real soon.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko




  • Registered Users Posts: 40,236 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    robinph wrote: »
    They have now reached the point the rest of us were at 4+ years ago then with each day saying "He did what?" an hoping "But surely we're OK as he'll not do X" and then a week later "He's what? Surely nobody would ever do X and then Y? At least we have the protection of Z to stop anything really bad happening"

    "What, he can't have just done Z can he".

    An interventions is going to be needed real soon.

    See the problem with staying silent and hoping he burns himself out is, it's not just him now ranting and raving out conspiracy theories, he has some pretty heavy hits in the "news" and politics enabling him.

    So there really is only 2 options.

    1. The whole thing (if possible) escalates further and becomes gravely dangerous.

    2. He finds "an out" where he leaves but still saves face "in his mind".

    Unfortunately I think the whole thing is leaning towards option 1.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭omega man



    When he got his Four Seasons vouchers they weren’t what he was expecting...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭nigeldaniel


    I have 6 cousins all passed middle age in New York and Rochester and they are beside themselves with fear as to what is happening to the USA right now. It used to be a joke in the past but now it's getting serious. What the Republican party are starting to do is believe in their own lies which is a worrying development.

    Dan.



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