Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Whoop de freaking doo :rolleyes:

Republicans are to busy being shìt scared about the young upcoming Dems like AOC, Meanwhile your hero lasted one term, got impeached, lost the popular vote twice ( once to Clinton which has to hurt really bad) and is being laughed out of every court across the Nation as he feebly attempts to grasp onto power.

Wheres the Trump zealots who were calling him an Alpha male not so long ago? They seem to have disappeared now he has turned into a whiney little bìtch.

I have never understood the alpha male moniker being applied to Trump. He is way too thin-skinned to be an alpha male. And he’s not particularly macho either.

Chris_Heilong

humberklog wrote: »

I think the Republicans attack AOC in order to keep her in the news thinking that the US hasn't the appetite for her brand of politics.

I don't think they fear her, quite the opposite- she's useful to them to attempt to tarnish Dems as socialist firebrands.

There is the left and then there is the far left, she is really far left and does not seem to be very bright which makes her a problem if she ever gets into a real position of power. She was already talking about making lists of "Trump collaborators" like a good little authoritarian.

L1011

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

she is really far left

By the ridiculous standards of the US only.

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

and does not seem to be very bright

You base this on what, precisely?

biko

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

So why do the Republicans attack her every chance they get? Sounds like they are very afraid of her to me.

Maybe they are responding in kind to her wanting to set up revenge lists?

AOC:
"Is anyone archiving these Trump sycophants for when they try to downplay or deny their complicity in the future? I foresee decent probability of many deleted Tweets, writings, photos in the future"

“Yes, we are,” answered former Obama administration staffer Michael Simon, citing the Trump Accountability Project. “Every Administration staffer, campaign staffer, bundler, lawyer who represented them — everyone.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/aoc-donald-trump-2020-election-b1652462.html

Tell me how

biko wrote: »

Maybe they are responding in kind to her wanting to set up revenge lists?

AOC:
"Is anyone archiving these Trump sycophants for when they try to downplay or deny their complicity in the future? I foresee decent probability of many deleted Tweets, writings, photos in the future"

“Yes, we are,” answered former Obama administration staffer Michael Simon, citing the Trump Accountability Project. “Every Administration staffer, campaign staffer, bundler, lawyer who represented them — everyone.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/aoc-donald-trump-2020-election-b1652462.html

'Revenge' list is your word.

Reasonable people see it as holding people to account.

Professor Moriarty

biko wrote: »

Maybe they are responding in kind to her wanting to set up revenge lists?

AOC:
"Is anyone archiving these Trump sycophants for when they try to downplay or deny their complicity in the future? I foresee decent probability of many deleted Tweets, writings, photos in the future"

“Yes, we are,” answered former Obama administration staffer Michael Simon, citing the Trump Accountability Project. “Every Administration staffer, campaign staffer, bundler, lawyer who represented them — everyone.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/aoc-donald-trump-2020-election-b1652462.html

The word 'revenge' isn't mentioned in the article. That's your own twisting.

MeMen2_MoRi_

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Biden wants nothing to do with the green new deal. Nobody has any interest in her ramblings. She is an outlier.
Confusing having absolutely no interest in her "politics" doesn't mean there is fear. I dont respect her.


The American Paul Murphy

Biden is picking and choosing parts of the GND, unless the Dems pick up the two Senate seats in Georgia there'll be zero of the GND getting past the ghoul that is McConnell.

Nobody? Really.. guess we'll see further down the line how that thinking pans out.

There's no confusion, you don't go around throwing out invites thinking you know your people really well and then to tuck tail and run behind "she said something something on Twitter I didn't like" you're now uninvited unless you take it back. Pretty embarrassing stuff!

briany

Tell me how wrote: »

'Revenge' list is your word.

Reasonable people see it as holding people to account.

'Revenge' and 'holding someone to account' could be conflated in certain circumstances, but I would say the difference is that the former is borne out of a personal grudge and the latter is about punishment for not following the rules. If Republicans want to back Trump in breaking every political norm, that should not go unpunished.

Chris_Heilong

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

original links? This is not well know information.

It's fairly well known, a few simple searches gets you the data. The image sources names are in the images themselves and the actual data is provided by the U.S.air force central command
https://www.afcent.af.mil/

MeMen2_MoRi_

biko wrote: »

Maybe they are responding in kind to her wanting to set up revenge lists?

AOC:
"Is anyone archiving these Trump sycophants for when they try to downplay or deny their complicity in the future? I foresee decent probability of many deleted Tweets, writings, photos in the future"

“Yes, we are,” answered former Obama administration staffer Michael Simon, citing the Trump Accountability Project. “Every Administration staffer, campaign staffer, bundler, lawyer who represented them — everyone.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/aoc-donald-trump-2020-election-b1652462.html

A very recent tweet, yet she's been the point of republican attacks since she got into congress..

She doesn't suffer fools easily, as was seen when she was lambasted on the steps of Congress being called a fcuking b!tch iirc?

When you can't win an argument, go for personal attacks.

Carfacemandog

briany wrote: »

'Revenge' and 'holding someone to account' could be conflated in certain circumstances, but I would say the difference is that the former is borne out of a personal grudge and the latter is about punishment for not following the rules. If Republicans want to back Trump in breaking every political norm, that should not go unpunished.

Basically, the party of personal responsibility are abhorred by the thought of being held personally responsible - which is pretty much exactly how she put it herself in the article.

While I don't agree with someone who fetched the coffee and copied 10x agendas etc (and a comic book for, well we all know who the colourful pictures are for at the WH in recent years) for the morning meetings should be held responsible, they also would not really have any legal culpability for merely being in the same room.

Everyone who knowingly broken the law and facilitated the breaking of it -and the list of these people has to be huge after the last four years- 100% deserves to face legal repercussion. The person in administration who willingly falsified data for whatever report for example, did so knowingly and should not have a "just taking orders" defense. If your boss in a pizza shop committed insurance fraud and needed you as an alibi while he set the business on fire, you wouldn't get away with that either just because your job title was 'delivery guy'.

Grab All Association

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1328370997125410817?s=20

but, but, but something something socialism, communism, Venezuela, death panels. Stephen Hawking was British he'd have been euthanised by universal healthcare.

everlast75

"Republicans just want a fair election"


Also Republicans


https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1328467775644381184?s=19

Tell me how

Grab All Association wrote: »

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1328370997125410817?s=20

but, but, but something something socialism, communism, Venezuela, death panels. Stephen Hawking was British he'd have been euthanised by universal healthcare.

I saw that tweet earlier.
Quite stunning isn't it in the USA in 2020 with everything going on as you say in terms of the conversation around socialism etc.

ExMachina1000

Grab All Association wrote: »

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1328370997125410817?s=20

but, but, but something something socialism, communism, Venezuela, death panels. Stephen Hawking was British he'd have been euthanised by universal healthcare.

If it was socialism they would be on mules travelling along a dirt road

Carfacemandog

The Supreme Court have decided to not even listen to Trumps Pennsylvania case over absentee ballots - https://www.usnews.com/news/elections/articles/2020-11-16/supreme-court-declines-to-take-up-pennsylvania-absentee-ballot-case

It's been clear for at least a week that this was dead, but I think this puts him completely out of stalling efforts for Biden hitting 270? He can still scream like a child but PA was a bigger one at 29 EC seats, and after you run to the supreme Court you don't have anywhere else to go after as best I know.

8-10

Carfacemandog wrote: »

The Supreme Court have decided to not even listen to Trumps Pennsylvania case over absentee ballots - https://www.usnews.com/news/elections/articles/2020-11-16/supreme-court-declines-to-take-up-pennsylvania-absentee-ballot-case

It's been clear for at least a week that this was dead, but I think this puts him completely out of stalling efforts for Biden hitting 270? He can still scream like a child but PA was a bigger one at 29 EC seats, and after you run to the supreme Court you don't have anywhere else to go after as best I know.

PA is 20 EC

But yeah this is pathetic from Trump.

He lost. The country will move on. Ironic that the people still supporting him were shouting Hillary Lost not so long ago. This is a much poorer showing when the shoes on the other foot

306 - 232

Landslide

Carfacemandog

Sorry on the phone, had meant to type 20.

Grab All Association

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

If it was socialism they would be on mules travelling along a dirt road

Cheaper to own and run a mule than a 6.0 V8. most of those vehicles are on finance and they have no choice but to make payments on instead of purchasing food.

feargale

Are there still people here who believe the election was stolen from Trump? Or have they all ridden into the sunset?
Read this:

"Save America, however, gets an early cut of the funds raised. The fine print shows that 60% of the funds go first to Save America -- up to the $5,000 legal donation limit -- and then to the Trump campaign's recount account. Forty percent will go to the Republican National Committee's operating account.

Campaign finance experts say Trump is engaging in a bait-and-switch tactic with his supporters.

"He's saying that he needs donors' money for election-challenge litigation, but he's putting the money into an account to be used for his political future," said Paul Ryan, the vice president for policy and litigation at Common Cause.

Fundraising limits are higher for leadership PACs than candidate committees. A donor could only contribute a maximum of $2,800 at this point for a 2024 presidential campaign but can contribute $20,000 to a leadership PAC in four, annual installments by that date, Ryan notes.

The rules on spending by leadership PACs also are far more relaxed than those for campaign committees and do not restrict politicians from using donors' funds for personal expenses -- a use forbidden in a presidential campaign account.

"Leadership PACs are notoriously abused by politicians as slush funds without violating any laws," Ryan said.

The Trump campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment."


Will you be contributing to this fund to defray The Incredible Sulk's litigation expenses?

Chris_Heilong

everlast75 wrote: »

"Republicans just want a fair election"


Also Republicans


https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1328467775644381184?s=19

False.
Trump will do everything within the law to disqualify any and all "non-legal ballots", There is no way to disqualify legal ballots, That is BS. What Trumps legal team are doing is finding irregularities, Ballots that were missing important information like date, signature and so on that would normally disqualify them but it seems that they might have been counted. There is also problems with the machines that counted the ballots giving Trump votes to Biden. Not all the states have finished counting and there are a few that are recounting ballots so it is not over until the next president has been officially decided inn December.

feargale

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

False.
Trump will do everything within the law to disqualify any and all "non-legal ballots", There is no way to disqualify legal ballots, That is BS. What Trumps legal team are doing is finding irregularities, Ballots that were missing important information like date, signature and so on that would normally disqualify them but it seems that they might have been counted. There is also problems with the machines that counted the ballots giving Trump votes to Biden. Not all the states have finished counting and there are a few that are recounting ballots so it is not over until the next president has been officially decided inn December.

So you believe the election was stolen?

Tell me how

But he's a peace loving President they say.

https://twitter.com/RawStory/status/1328494659371474950

Buford T Justice

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

False.
Trump will do everything within the law to disqualify any and all "non-legal ballots", There is no way to disqualify legal ballots, That is BS. What Trumps legal team are doing is finding irregularities, Ballots that were missing important information like date, signature and so on that would normally disqualify them but it seems that they might have been counted. There is also problems with the machines that counted the ballots giving Trump votes to Biden. Not all the states have finished counting and there are a few that are recounting ballots so it is not over until the next president has been officially decided inn December.

Right, but these claims have all but been thrown out on many occasions as has been documented in this thread previously. Problems with voting machines have also been discounted.

Just because trump kicks and screams and says it's so doesn't mean it is.

Loafing Oaf

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

There is also problems with the machines that counted the ballots giving Trump votes to Biden.

extra gravy

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

What Trumps legal team are doing is finding irregularities,.

Oh really and how's that going for them? 23 cases laughed out of court and counting, isn't it?

wes

humberklog wrote: »

I think the Republicans attack AOC in order to keep her in the news thinking that the US hasn't the appetite for her brand of politics.

I don't think they fear her, quite the opposite- she's useful to them to attempt to tarnish Dems as socialist firebrands.

I can see this back firing for them long term.

extra gravy

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1328503369296580608?s=19

At least one Republican is willing to stand up for the truth.

Carfacemandog

Ohio's Governor and Romney also came out to congratulate Biden, if I recall. Not everyone is willing to throw their careers in the toilet for White House Karen.

https://twitter.com/PauleyTeeks/status/1328453123711528960

jill_valentine

What in the HELL have they got over Lindsay Graham?!??!