Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

deceit

deceit wrote: »

As far as I'm aware only 1 of them was run by Trumps team, the rest were individuals or companies suing.

Nope.
https://www.ft.com/content/20b114b5-5419-493b-9923-a918a2527931

deceit wrote: »

I'd say his chances of winning though are at most 20%.

This is indeed mathematically correct, as his chances of winning are also at most 0.0001%.

deceit

deceit wrote: »

I'm just popping into this thread as I didn't think it would still be going now. As far as I'm aware only 1 of them was run by Trumps team, the rest were individuals or companies suing.
I'd expect trumps plan is to get to the supreme court with three of the states and if he manages that he would most likely win, especially if he has access to the German servers. The same people that warned about the servers before Trumps legal team released it are saying he has these servers and they have produced what they need. (Just rumors at this point so could be a load of ****e). Dominion have supposedly closed down their office in Canada and wont attend for requests to defend their product. With them not doing this 2 states wont certify but I'm not sure he can get a 3rd.
I'd say his chances of winning though are at most 20%.

You mean the German servers that the U.S. army said don't exist but they were supposed to have taken in a raid?

Randle P. McMurphy

Inquitus wrote: »

Aye, they are totally off the wall www.the.donald.win guys and gals!

Always good for a laugh that site. So many bat s**t crazy people over there. Seemingly their dear leader is a genius who is playing 4d chess with the dems and will prevail. Anyone who dosen't support him is is a commie pedo f****t traitor who needs to be hung. USUALLY IN CAPS LOCK WITH LOTS OF EXCLAMATION MARKS!!!!

PropJoe10

It's really entertaining to read all these posts by people who seem to think that Trump is on the cusp of providing irrefutable proof of voter fraud. Personally, I'd have expected that to have been provided in one of the 34 court cases that have so far been thrown out. But maybe I'm just mad like that.

namloc1980

deceit wrote: »

I'm just popping into this thread as I didn't think it would still be going now. As far as I'm aware only 1 of them was run by Trumps team, the rest were individuals or companies suing.
I'd expect trumps plan is to get to the supreme court with three of the states and if he manages that he would most likely win, especially if he has access to the German servers. The same people that warned about the servers before Trumps legal team released it are saying he has these servers and they have produced what they need. (Just rumors at this point so could be a load of ****e). Dominion have supposedly closed down their office in Canada and wont attend for requests to defend their product. With them not doing this 2 states wont certify but I'm not sure he can get a 3rd.
I'd say his chances of winning though are at most 20%.

Seriously man, you've swallowed Rudy's conspiracies hook, line and sinker. Have a word with yourself.

eagle eye

PropJoe10 wrote:

It's really entertaining to read all these posts by people who seem to think that Trump is on the cusp of providing irrefutable proof of voter fraud. Personally, I'd have expected that to have been provided in one of the 34 court cases that have so far been thrown out. But maybe I'm just mad like that.

Yeah it's ridiculous but not at all surprise sing when you realise how many people voted for him.
It's really horrible now, there are so many groups out there and not just the crazy Trump followers. You have the Trump haters as well who are not nice people either.
The ordinary respectable persons voice is getting drowned out by all the hateful noise from those groups.
We need four years with no media attention for Trump. His base will shrink quickly without exposure and maybe the lack of exposure will help the Trump haters heal although people who start hating seem to just move to another target like it's an addiction.

PropJoe10

eagle eye wrote: »

Yeah it's ridiculous but not at all surprise sing when you realise how many people voted for him.
It's really horrible now, there are so many groups out there and not just the crazy Trump followers. You have the Trump haters as well who are not nice people either.
The ordinary respectable persons voice is getting drowned out by all the hateful noise from those groups.
We need four years with no media attention for Trump. His base will shrink quickly without exposure and maybe the lack of exposure will help the Trump haters heal although people who start hating seem to just move to another target like it's an addiction.

You're right, but it won't happen. When he leaves office he's going to be even worse with riling up his base support and entrenching the belief that they were somehow cheated out of a second term.

He'll spend the next 4 years undermining Biden at every opportunity. That's the sad reality of the type of people you're dealing with there.

Tell me how

PropJoe10 wrote: »

You're right, but it won't happen. When he leaves office he's going to be even worse with riling up his base support and entrenching the belief that they were somehow cheated out of a second term.

I don't think so. I think he has no interest in getting down and dirty with those who support him unless it is likely to benefit him significantly in the short term. Take for example him driving through the crowd protesting on his behalf about alleged fraud to go golfing. A true leader would have attended that protest and spoken words both of thanks, of dedication and the need to fight on. He grinned out the window while wearing his stupid red hat.

PropJoe10 wrote: »

He'll spend the next 4 years undermining Biden at every opportunity. That's the sad reality of the type of people you're dealing with there.

This I do agree with but I think his words will carry little weight. He has pretty much alienated himself from Fox, or they have from him, and I had previously said he could end up with a weekly show on the station talking about current affairs and that would have been a constant thorn in the side of the Biden administration given the audience Fox has. But, if he goes elsewhere, OAN or wherever, I think he is unlikely to have the same audience which will lessen the impact.

He's doing everything in his power right now to make sure that the powers that be are fully motivated in shutting the door on him completely and trying to keep him quiet. Hopefully through prosecuting him appropriately for his alleged offences in my view.

Even Chris Christie has called it a day on his Presidency.

https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1330527751548379141

At this point, it must be said that in terms of election fraud; 'The absence of evidence is evidence of absence'.

timsey tiger

deceit wrote: »

I'm just popping into this thread as I didn't think it would still be going now. As far as I'm aware only 1 of them was run by Trumps team, the rest were individuals or companies suing.
I'd expect trumps plan is to get to the supreme court with three of the states and if he manages that he would most likely win, especially if he has access to the German servers. The same people that warned about the servers before Trumps legal team released it are saying he has these servers and they have produced what they need. (Just rumors at this point so could be a load of ****e). Dominion have supposedly closed down their office in Canada and wont attend for requests to defend their product. With them not doing this 2 states wont certify but I'm not sure he can get a 3rd.
I'd say his chances of winning though are at most 20%.

You do realise that the American army seizing anything in Germany would amount to an act of war with a fellow NATO member. :rolleyes:

Inquitus

The OAN's and Newsmax of this world really don't seem to have any interest in letting things go. In this clip they complain about the major networks not airing the 2.5 hours of Rudy and Co's unintelligible ramblings the other night!

https://twitter.com/LizRNC/status/1330186217355350020

briany

What's scarier about OANN and Newsmax? That they're staffed by loo-lahs who genuinely believe in this conspiracy for which no credible evidence has yet been provided, or that they're staffed by amoral people who have no problem completely ignoring reality in order to play the rubes and maximise their profit?

At least with FOX news there was an eventual pullback. No danger of that with Trump's two new favourite networks.

eagle eye

briany wrote:

or that they're staffed by amoral people who have no problem completely ignoring reality in order to play the rubes and maximise their profit?

This, it's Twitter TV.

ChikiChiki

Randle P. McMurphy wrote: »

Always good for a laugh that site. So many bat s**t crazy people over there. Seemingly their dear leader is a genius who is playing 4d chess with the dems and will prevail. Anyone who dosen't support him is is a commie pedo f****t traitor who needs to be hung. USUALLY IN CAPS LOCK WITH LOTS OF EXCLAMATION MARKS!!!!

I don't find it in anyway humorous at all. It's frightening the volume of support he still has.

Would make you wonder the direction the human race is heading in with the seeds of division firmly sowed.

It would appear that in private, Trump is finally aware that he's lost. Now he's trying to work out how to make money afterwards.

https://www.businessinsider.com/facing-400-million-debts-trump-plans-cash-in-on-presidency-2020-11?r=US&IR=T

Inquitus

Deleted User wrote: »

It would appear that in private, Trump is finally aware that he's lost. Now he's trying to work out how to make money afterwards.

https://www.businessinsider.com/facing-400-million-debts-trump-plans-cash-in-on-presidency-2020-11?r=US&IR=T

Charging $5 a head for a rally with say 30k people attending is a nice little earner, for most people, but after venue rent, security et al he is only going to make, lets say, $100k an event. While this is decent money for a lot of people, there's only so many rallies he can hold and $100k a day is not going to make a significant dent in his debts.

duploelabs

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It would appear that in private, Trump is finally aware that he's lost. Now he's trying to work out how to make money afterwards.

https://www.businessinsider.com/facing-400-million-debts-trump-plans-cash-in-on-presidency-2020-11?r=US&IR=T

He should be able to make a couple of dollars an hour to put towards commissary, but that'll be the extent of it

Yep the one I'm thinking is that his speaking engagements will be a far more limited set than any previous president would have gotten. Not exactly lucrative.

Guy:Incognito

What would be in a trump book that everyone hasn't already read via his tweets. Less capital letters maybe.

Aleece2020

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

What would be in a trump book that everyone hasn't already read via his tweets. Less capital letters maybe.

Someone else will write it for him and he will attempt to take the credit, just like the Art of the Deal.

briany

Inquitus wrote: »

Charging $5 a head for a rally with say 30k people attending is a nice little earner, for most people, but after venue rent, security et al he is only going to make, lets say, $100k an event. While this is decent money for a lot of people, there's only so many rallies he can hold and $100k a day is not going to make a significant dent in his debts.

Trump could find backers to pay off his debt, I'd say. There has to be interest in him running again in 2024.

Beechwoodspark

Just on the corporate world angle a lot of big players would actively avoid booking trump speeches as they wouldn’t want the bad PR that would follow

PropJoe10

Chris Christie has called Trump's legal team a "national embarrassment". Not half strong enough words, to be fair. They're a global embarrassment to humanity.

jill_valentine

briany wrote: »

Trump could find backers to pay off his debt, I'd say. There has to be interest in him running again in 2024.

See... I'm not actually that sure about that. He seems to hate actually being president, he just likes feeling like he won things. I'm not sure he'd want to run again in four years if he feels like there's a chance he might not

In four years he'll be 78, and from what little we've seen of him he's not an especially healthy 74 year old now. He might find he enjoys having rallies whenever he feels like it and whinging about the rigged system from his resort rather than having to be carted around from photo op to photo op.

Smee_Again

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

What would be in a trump book that everyone hasn't already read via his tweets. Less capital letters maybe.

I’m more interested in where it would be in the bookshop?

Fiction I presume.

Tell me how

briany wrote: »

Trump could find backers to pay off his debt, I'd say. There has to be interest in him running again in 2024.

This isn't a few hundred thousand or a couple of million owed to the IRS.

This is several hundred million to international banks. This is publicly known as an approaching debt liability as opposed to something which increased because of ambiguity and penalties, interest etc.
Someone coming in and paying that will lead to claims of him being bought and paid for, being compromised, owing a debt to someone etc.
Not to mention it being the most socialist of all socialist deals. I think the act of someone giving him such money in itself would undermine any argument that he should be trusted to be a significant political figure. (A trust that should be virtually non-existent in the first place).

briany

jill_valentine wrote: »

See... I'm not actually that sure about that. He seems to hate actually being president, he just likes feeling like he won things. I'm not sure he'd want to run again in four years if he feels like there's a chance he might not

In four years he'll be 78, and from what little we've seen of him he's not an especially healthy 74 year old now. He might find he enjoys having rallies whenever he feels like it and whinging about the rigged system from his resort rather than having to be carted around from photo op to photo op.

He ran in 2016 despite being seen largely as a joke candidate in the early going. I don't think there was any real way of telling what a phenomenon he'd become until he started pushing the right buttons of the Republican base. So, either he's unafraid to attempt something even if he's unsure how successful he'll be, or he goes for things with a firm belief in success no matter the evidence to the contrary.

Would he be fit to run in 4 years? Well, possibly not, but people keep on talking about his health and lifestyle like he could drop dead any minute. If the stories about his eating and exercise are to be believed, how did he even make it to 74? And can we be sure that whatever force is inside him which propels him onward in spite of his lifestyle won't get him to 78 as well?

Smee_Again

Smee_Again wrote: »

I’m more interested in where it would be in the bookshop?

Fiction I presume.

Do Easons have a conspiracy theories section?

timsey tiger

briany wrote: »

Would he be fit to run in 4 years? Well, possibly not, but people keep on talking about his health and lifestyle like he could drop dead any minute. If the stories about his eating and exercise are to be believed, how did he even make it to 74? And can we be sure that whatever force is inside him which propels him onward in spite of his lifestyle won't get him to 78 as well?

Being universally known as a confirmed loser is bound to take a toll.

Kermit.de.frog

Donald Trump is the greatest president the United States has ever had with the possible exception of Abraham Lincoln.

Kermit.de.frog

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Donald Trump is the greatest president the United States has ever had with the possible exception of Abraham Lincoln.

From his Twitter or some other grifter?