Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

eagle eye

gmisk wrote:

Bar possibly Romney have any of them consistently spoke out?

So they decide they've had enough and speak out. How does that make them cowards?

ohnonotgmail

eagle eye wrote: »

So they decide they've had enough and speak out. How does that make them cowards?

they haven't spoken out. Bernstein has outed what they have been saying privately.

Smee_Again

eagle eye wrote: »

So they decide they've had enough and speak out. How does that make them cowards?

Because doing so now takes no strength of character, Trump has been beaten. Where were they when it might have made an actual difference.

seamus

eagle eye wrote: »

So they decide they've had enough and speak out. How does that make them cowards?

They haven't spoken out. That's the point. Publically they back Trump because he's a Republican president, and refuse to tell him to stand aside.

Privately, they despise the man. But refuse to speak against him.

That's why they're cowards.

gmisk

eagle eye wrote: »

So they decide they've had enough and speak out. How does that make them cowards?

Huh?
Have 21 spoke out now? or are you just going by a tweet that says those 21 are not happy?!
Not the same thing.

VinLieger

eagle eye wrote: »

So they decide they've had enough and speak out. How does that make them cowards?

They haven't spoken out though, telling Bernstein or whoever his sources are in private that's trumps an idiot while remaining silent or even openly supporting trump in public is incredibly cowardly

Quin_Dub

seamus wrote: »

They haven't spoken out. That's the point. Publically they back Trump because he's a Republican president, and refuse to tell him to stand aside.

Privately, they despise the man. But refuse to speak against him.

That's why they're cowards.

If nothing else , Trump has exposed how utterly amoral most of the GOP are.

When he first started out, they were giving their true feeling about him - See Lindsey Graham for example , but then all of a sudden they were like "Oh hang on he's popular, better pretend to like him"

They have no morals or actual beliefs beyond Power , most people knew this but Trump utterly exposed that.

The Democrats go to the other extreme with their ridiculous "purity tests" etc. but the GOP care about nothing as long as they have power.

eagle eye

eagle eye wrote: »

Why are they cowards? Men with a bit of honesty is what I'm seeing.

Bernstein says as much in terms of how they've actively avoided ousting him even though they view him as unfit to be president.

https://twitter.com/carlbernstein/status/1330710307052814336?s=19

eagle eye

Apologies, I thought they'd all spoken out.

timsey tiger

everlast75 wrote: »

F**king cowards


https://twitter.com/carlbernstein/status/1330710305354129410?s=20

Not all, at least Romney and Sass have done it publically too.

walshb

I said it from the start

Trump is not the problem

It is those aiding and abetting and encouraging him....

He thrives on this, and at times, plays to the gallery....

It is what is expected of him...

I think those backing him make even more a divisive and polarizing and dangerous individual...

Tell me how

eagle eye wrote: »

Why are they cowards? Men with a bit of honesty is what I'm seeing.

Because they had 4 years to show their honesty and most chose not to.

Anyone exhibiting drastically different behaviour now is trying to change the way in which their own behaviour will have been viewed throughout this period.

It will continue. Once Trump finally leaves, the only ones left singing his praises will be his die hard conservative fans and his very close family members. Expect many more, even the likes of Mike Pence or Nikki Halley to say that they were only respecting the office and trying to be guide him towards the right choices when they try to continue their careers with an eye on the White House at a later date.

valoren

The GOP are keenly aware that Trump, an abusive, egotistical and notoriously thin-skinned individual, has just received over 70 million votes. They do not want to incur the inevitable ire and abuse from Trump tweeting to his subscribers. They steer clear of that metaphorical drowning man in case they get dragged under with him, they thread water from a safe distance and wait for the inevitable while watching him trash and holler, in denial at how doomed he is. They are in a precarious and sensitive position. Support Trump, and the baseless conspiracy theories, and be seen to denigrate democracy or publically shun him and get targeted on Twitter by a malignant narcissist with a penchant for pathological lying. They are akin to the person who rides a tiger and who fears to dismount i.e. if they were to get off then they are very likely to get mauled by the Tiger.

everlast75

How this nonsense will impact the January elections will be noteworthy.

Already, those in the firing line are worrying that Trump's behaviour will affect their chances

https://twitter.com/SamWangPhD/status/1330697784241090560?s=20

Ideally, this will result in a huge spat between the republicans allegedly quoted and Trump, and it will be akin to two F1 drivers from the same team taking each other out on track

timsey tiger

Tell me how wrote: »

Because they had 4 years to show their honesty and most chose not to.

Anyone exhibiting drastically different behaviour now is trying to change the way in which their own behaviour will have been viewed throughout this period.

It will continue. Once Trump finally leaves, the only ones left singing his praises will be his die hard conservative fans and his very close family members. Expect many more, even the likes of Mike Pence or Nikki Halley to say that they were only respecting the office and trying to be guide him towards the right choices when they try to continue their careers with an eye on the White House at a later date.

They won't be dissing him ever, not when 74m people voted for him. Esp. before he dies as he is as vindictive as fúck.

Quin_Dub

everlast75 wrote: »

How this nonsense will impact the January elections will be noteworthy.

Already, those in the firing line are worrying that Trump's behaviour will affect their chances

https://twitter.com/SamWangPhD/status/1330697784241090560?s=20

Ideally, this will result in a huge spat between the republicans allegedly quoted and Trump, and it will be akin to two F1 drivers from the same team taking each other out on track

There's already an effort in Georgia among Trump extremists to organise an Vote Abstention effort based on the spurious idea that the elections are corrupt so they shouldn't' participate.

Given the razor-thin margins that there were in both the Senatorial votes any measurable numbers from this could swing the seats

timsey tiger

everlast75 wrote: »

How this nonsense will impact the January elections will be noteworthy.

Already, those in the firing line are worrying that Trump's behaviour will affect their chances

https://twitter.com/SamWangPhD/status/1330697784241090560?s=20

Ideally, this will result in a huge spat between the republicans allegedly quoted and Trump, and it will be akin to two F1 drivers from the same team taking each other out on track

A bit rich from Loeffler, considering that she is/(pretends to be) a Qanon supporting loon.

namloc1980

https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1330918754633605126?s=20

Governor of Georgia has certified the Electors. I see Stacey Abrams is one of Biden's Electors. Congrats to Joe Biden for winning Georgia......again.

timsey tiger

Quin_Dub wrote: »

There's already an effort in Georgia among Trump extremists to organise an Vote Abstention effort based on the spurious idea that the elections are corrupt so they shouldn't' participate.

Given the razor-thin margins that there were in both the Senatorial votes any measurable numbers from this could swing the seats

Mad, though from Trump's point of view if the dems have control of everything it would be easier for him to be reelected in four years time.

duploelabs

timsey tiger wrote: »

A bit rich from Loeffler, considering that she is/(pretends to be) a Qanon supporting loon.

Not forgetting her dumping €18M worth of stock at the announcement of the Pandemic
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/4/1/21202900/kelly-loeffler-stock-sales-coronavirus-pandemic

eagle eye

namloc1980 wrote:

Governor of Georgia has certified the Electors. I see Stacey Abrams is one of Biden's Electors. Congrats to Joe Biden for winning Georgia......again.

There is a good few expected that certify today I believe?

eagle eye

eagle eye wrote: »

There is a good few expected that certify today I believe?

Here's a handy little of summary of some key dates.



Source.

namloc1980

Trump lost another case which he'd originally won, on appeal. He's now 1-35 in post election cases. So much #winning

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ohnonotgmail

namloc1980 wrote: »

Trump lost another case which he'd originally won, on appeal. He's now 1-35 in post election cases. So much #winning

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he has done so much winning over the last 4 years he has decided to even it up a bit because it made everybody else look bad.

briany

namloc1980 wrote: »

Trump lost another case which he'd originally won, on appeal. He's now 1-35 in post election cases. So much #winning

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Here's how Trump supporters see it -

Trump is now 1-35 in post-election cases.

(I made the 1 'yuge', in case any mobile users are wondering)

Lashes28

What was the one that he won?

everlast75

Lashes28 wrote: »

What was the one that he won?

A parking meter ticket for The Beast...

astrofool

Lashes28 wrote: »

What was the one that he won?

They got clarity on the distance the poll watchers should be from the counters as it wasn't defined before, the answer was 6 feet away.

briany

briany wrote: »

Here's how Trump supporters see it -

Trump is now 1-35 in post-election cases.

(I made the 1 'yuge', in case any mobile users are wondering)

"That's one of the biggest 1s I've ever seen, maybe in the whole world even. Nobody has a bigger 1 than me. I WIN."

Lirange

seamus wrote: »

They haven't spoken out. That's the point. Publically they back Trump because he's a Republican president, and refuse to tell him to stand aside.

Privately, they despise the man. But refuse to speak against him.

That's why they're cowards.

In fairness at least one of them, Ben Sasse, has spoken out frequently and in unambiguous terms, ever since the election was called for Biden. So I’m not sure why he was included in that list.

“When Trump campaign lawyers have stood before courts under oath, they have repeatedly refused to actually allege grand fraud," Sasse said, "because there are legal consequences for lying to judges. Wild press conferences erode public trust," the Nebraska Republican senator said. So, no, obviously, Rudy and his buddies should not pressure electors to ignore their certification obligations under the statute. We are a nation of laws, not tweets."


“Sasse acknowledged Biden's victory in the presidential election. He issued a statement congratulating Biden on the day after election results declared him the winner.”

https://journalstar.com/news/state-and-regional/federal-politics/sasse-pans-giulianis-efforts-to-overturn-presidential-results/article_b12bb05b-8728-5df5-a90e-09adb7641ded.html