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Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Dislike of Biden was a huge factor in this election. Those on the fence just disliked Trump more.
    It was basically a decision of who you disliked less.
    Roll on January

    In what election has that not been the case? In what election do you think the people that were on the fence were so because they liked both candidates so much that they couldn't decide between them?


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,308 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980




  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,620 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Why would he have purposely lied if the FBI had already listened to all his phone calls and cleared him?

    I think this article gives a pretty good job of trying to explain the logic of Flynns actions and to a lesser extent Jeff Sessions at around the same time.

    Basically - Flynn knew that there was *something* dodgy about Trump and teams actions with and about Russia , but he didn't know the specifics.

    He knew he had to try to provide cover for Trump though , so he lied - A stupid lie that he didn't need to do. If he'd just said "Yes , spoke to Kislyak a bit too soon , My bad!" beyond a bit of media fluff , nothing would have happened.
    One potential answer, I would propose, is that Sessions and Flynn lied about their conversations with Kislyak precisely because they were not in the loop on Trump’s other contacts with Russia. They knew that the swirling Trump-Russia scandal was lethally radioactive. They did not know exactly where the radioactivity was centered. They lied to protect the group secret, without themselves knowing what the group secret was. They lied about their own contacts with the Russian ambassador because they intuited that there was some terrible truth about Russia that Trump would want concealed. And because they did not know that truth, they lied extravagantly and excessively, when a guiltier person might have lied more strategically and precisely.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,620 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    A large portion of the 80 million didn't vote for Biden. They voted to get rid of Trump. Biden is unlikeable and bland

    Mostly correct , except that Biden is eminently "likeable" , it's a large part of why he got elected and flipped those mid-western states.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,620 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    The legislatures can reject the elections in their states if they believe them to be fraudulent. The college votes can therefore be denied to Biden. If he doesn't reach 270 votes then under the 12th Amendment each state gets 1 vote. The majority of the states are Republican so Trump would win.

    Nope - They have to PROVE they are fraudulent and so far even Giuliani isn't trying to prove Fraud in Court.


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,620 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    WHen you hear things like Rudi said , not sure of numbers, but it was something like '' 30,000 ballots came back the day they were posted, 25000 ballots came back day after they were posted, and 40,000 ballots came back a day before they were posted unless Doc Brown is involved I don't see how this could happen.


    Doc_Brown.JPG

    If Rudi has the evidence for this, why is he not saying it on court instead of just sh!te talking for TV??

    Why?

    Because IT IS A LIE , he can get away with lying on TV/Twitter , but even Rudi knows if he does it in court, he goes to Jail.

    Listen to/Read what they are saying in Courts of Law , not what they say in front of the Media.

    In Court they have explicitly and repeatedly confirmed that they have no evidence of fraud and they are are not attempting to prove fraud.

    All of their court arguments are based on a variety of technical challenges either to the ballots themselves or the State laws around Mail-in ballots - And they are currently 1-37 on those.

    There was no Fraud.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,920 ✭✭✭Grab All Association


    https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1331731279495237633?s=21

    Wow. If you don’t like the truth, unfollow and Trump will win


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,620 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1331731279495237633?s=21

    Wow. If you don’t like the truth, unfollow and Trump will win

    Good Lord - The comments on the original NewsMax post are deeply disturbing.

    I know these people represent the fringe of the fringe and are not truly representative of the majority of Americans or even Trump voters , but they really are beyond saving at this point.

    Frightening what one of these nutters might actually try to do.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,592 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1331731279495237633?s=21

    Wow. If you don’t like the truth, unfollow and Trump will win

    These are the same people who were probably calling Biden supporters 'snowflakes" over the last few years:pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,467 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Isn't it odd that we haven't heard a thing about hunter bidens laptop since the election.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,452 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Isn't it odd that we haven't heard a thing about hunter bidens laptop since the election.

    Well the computer repair guy closed up shop and skipped town


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,316 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    Isn't it odd that we haven't heard a thing about hunter bidens laptop since the election.


    Weird indeed. Wasn't Rudy meant to come out with some "explosive revelations" on that before the election?

    I assume he'll be providing that at the same time as he provides irrefutable proof of widespread voter fraud in the election.

    Or, maybe not.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,805 ✭✭✭✭everlast75




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,042 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    Isn't it odd that we haven't heard a thing about hunter bidens laptop since the election.

    I hear it's gone missing in the caravan of immigrants that vanished into the ether back in mid Movember, 2018.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,308 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    The recount in Milwaukee has resulted in a net increase of 3 votes for Biden so far! Real earth shattering stuff there from the Trump camp's insistence on a recount.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/24/politics/milwaukee-wisconsin-recount/index.html?utm_term=image&utm_content=2020-11-26T10%3A17%3A01&utm_source=twCNNp&utm_medium=social


  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    everlast75 wrote: »

    Going by trump's record, I'd say they two hopes of being paid and one of them is Bob.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Counting votes is not magic. Don't be so gullible to swallow Rudy's nonsense. That man has absolutely zero credibility.

    its actually sad that the greatest mayor New York had has fallen this far into just sheer lunacy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,467 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    everlast75 wrote: »

    they should have asked for the money upfront.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,620 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Hard to know who's the bigger fool in this one

    He donated $2.5M to them so they could investigate voter fraud , but now that they have failed miserably to find any, he wants his money back..
    A North Carolina money manager is suing a pro-Trump group for $2.5 million after the group failed to show evidence of voter fraud in the 2020 presidential election or provide him with updates on their efforts.

    Fred Eshelman donated the money to True the Vote Inc., a Houston-based organization, which had promised to "investigate, litigate, and expose suspected illegal balloting and fraud in the 2020 general election," according to Bloomberg.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,467 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Hard to know who's the bigger fool in this one

    He donated $2.5M to them so they could investigate voter fraud , but now that they have failed miserably to find any, he wants his money back..

    there is only one fool here. the other side knew exactly what they were doing.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,805 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    its actually sad that the greatest mayor New York had has fallen this far into just sheer lunacy.

    And what about the guy who is pushing him forward as the best advocate for what he believes to be true?

    How far do you think he has fallen?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,452 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    its actually sad that the greatest mayor New York had has fallen this far into just sheer lunacy.

    Greatest mayor??

    In the mayoral elections post 9/11 he tried to petition Governer Pataki to suspend them elections so he could stay in power


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,098 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    there is only one fool here. the other side knew exactly what they were doing.

    Think they made a mistake in offering him $1million back though, that give some credence to his case in wanting the money back.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,974 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    The recount in Milwaukee has resulted in a net increase of 3 votes for Biden so far! Real earth shattering stuff there from the Trump camp's insistence on a recount.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/24/politics/milwaukee-wisconsin-recount/index.html?utm_term=image&utm_content=2020-11-26T10%3A17%3A01&utm_source=twCNNp&utm_medium=social

    If you are just going to recount invalid votes without doing an audit what do you expect?


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    duploelabs wrote: »
    Greatest mayor??

    In the mayoral elections post 9/11 he tried to petition Governer Pataki to suspend them elections so he could stay in power

    between his 9/11 work and heroic steps like stop and frisk, he absolutely turned New York from a crime ridden hellhole into a workable city. He absolutely cleaned up New York crime and played a blinder in the time post 9/11 , but those days are long gone for him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,974 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    A good podcast here discussing the most recent news surrounding Trump's challenge. Put it on in the background for those that have no time to hear things that might go against their world view.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVYFGVqyYZ4&ab_channel=ThePodcastoftheLotusEaters


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,467 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    A good podcast here discussing the most recent news surrounding Trump's challenge. Put it on in the background for those that have no time to hear things that might go against their world view.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyajPzyj_cA&ab_channel=ThePodcastoftheLotusEaters

    you're grand. a 90 minutes video that could probably be summarised in a dozen pages.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,452 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    between his 9/11 work and heroic steps like stop and frisk, he absolutely turned New York from a crime ridden hellhole into a workable city. He absolutely cleaned up New York crime and played a blinder in the time post 9/11 , but those days are long gone for him.
    Stop and frisk was a racist policy with 90% of people who were were Latino and black males between 19-24. Granted he got rid of the Costa nostra, but that left a power vacuum which the Russian mob duely filled


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭The Raging Bile Duct


    A good podcast here discussing the most recent news surrounding Trump's challenge. Put it on in the background for those that have no time to hear things that might go against their world view.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyajPzyj_cA&ab_channel=ThePodcastoftheLotusEaters

    I saw Carl Benjamin's head in there. God, that lad is some sack and a UKIP candidate to boot. Very easy to completely disregard any scutter they are going to come out with.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 38,568 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I can see in a few years that the surname most printed in media over the last four years becoming a word used as an insult like the use of the word for what you leave in the toilet after a dump.


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