Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

Timberrrrrrrr

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Counting is ongoing, there is no way he will lose to Biden.

What do you think is goings to happen? What's the scenario where Trump wins and stays in the whitehouse?

Please explain step by step what you think happens next where Trump remains president.

is_that_so

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Counting is ongoing, there is no way he will lose to Biden.

Where the votes still to be counted are, disagree with this claim. He might get closer in AZ but PA, NV and quite probably GA are gone. All Biden needs is PA and he's well on his way there to an insurmountable lead, regardless of challenges.

km991148

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Show one post where I said he had dementia please. I never said he was a rapist either, I may have alluded to these things but as a long time Boards member, I know the rules therefore I am VERY careful with my words.

I made a prediction that Joe would not turn up to the debates and afterwards, I openly admitted to getting it wrong.

Of course I think Trump will win. There are many votes left to count and Joe Biden is an awful candidate.

He never said you said he had dementia. He used the word push, which implies you may have said it but was very careful not to have said it.
Pushed could also imply that you simply support the theories without committing to stating them. Something you admit to by using the word alluded.


See.. now there was some very Trumptastic word salad. It could be implied that I have said bad things about you, but really I said nothing. Or did I. Some people say I might, that what I hear, but I don't know.

How are people, at 10am on Saturday the 7th of November, still thinking that Trump is going to win?

It's over. Essentially all votes left to count are in areas that favour Biden.

Yes, he is a dreadful candidate but he has won this race.

km991148

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

At 78 Biden might not even last the 4 years.

What happens if he dies before the full term is up, does Harris take over or is there an election called?

Harris. Same if Trump takes the huff and walks off stage (or fakes a medical issue).. pence is president until Feb.

Necro

Deleted User wrote: »

How are people, at 10am on Saturday the 7th of November, still thinking that Trump is going to win?

It's over. Essentially all votes left to count are in areas that favour Biden.

Yes, he is a dreadful candidate but he has won this race.

I'd say it's mainly denial, jokes aside.

eagle eye

No way

Deleted User wrote: »

If there is "no way" he is going to lose, I assume you have a large bet on? Why waste the potential to increase your savings six fold?

Biden is going to lose.
I was late getting up Wednesday morning after watching coverage until 4.30am the night before.
My wife informs me that her American friends are all upset because Trump is going to win the election. I started laughing and told her Trump hasn't an earthly.
So I read up a bit and Trump has claimed it already. Then I go do numbers on Pennsylvania and if you go back you'll see that I posted it here then that Biden is looking good for Pennsylvania.
I then see that somebody has said here that Trump is favourite with the bookies so I log on and put on 50 from my balance and immediately decide to put the other 83 on as well because it's free money.
At no stage before today have I claimed to have had a bet because I really don't care but seeing as you asked the question the way you did, well here you go.
Before the election I thought Biden would win Texas or that it would be extremely tight. I got that wrong but I'm showing that bet as well.

twinytwo

Akrasia wrote: »

Just because you’ve had a belief for a year doesn’t mean you should hold onto that belief when there is practically insurmountable evidence that your belief was wrong

I really believed that the UK could get its act together and hold a 2nd referendum on Brexit. Turns out I was wrong

I really believed that Sanders could put up a better challenge in the Primaries, I was wrong then too. I believed Trumps team would have had a more coherent plan for after the election, turns out his plan was to rant and rave and threaten to sue everyone and lie about the results

In hindsight my belief that Trump might actually have had a long term plan was completely unfounded

The UK government are not required to hold referendums. With the brexiteers in charge why would they want to stop it?

Scot_in_Dublin

eagle eye wrote: »

No way Biden is going to lose.
I was late getting up Wednesday morning after watching coverage until 4.30am the night before.
My wife informs me that her American friends are all upset because Trump is going to win the election. I started laughing and told her Trump hasn't an earthly.
So I read up a bit and Trump has claimed it already. Then I go do numbers on Pennsylvania and if you go back you'll see that I posted it here then that Biden is looking good for Pennsylvania.
I then see that somebody has said here that Trump is favourite with the bookies so I log on and put on 50 from my balance and immediately decide to put the other 83 on as well because it's free money.
At no stage before today have I claimed to have had a bet because I really don't care but seeing as you asked the question the way you did, well here you go.
Before the election I thought Biden would win Texas or that it would be extremely tight. I got that wrong but I'm showing that bet as well.

On the betting side, was that maybe for another poster? I haven't mentioned betting at all in any of my posts to be honest.

Annasopra

[Deleted User] wrote: »

How are people, at 10am on Saturday the 7th of November, still thinking that Trump is going to win?

I think Hannah Arendt spelled it out very well in 1951


“In an ever-changing, incomprehensible world the masses had reached the point where they would, at the same time, believe everything and nothing, think that everything was possible and that nothing was true. ... Mass propaganda discovered that its audience was ready at all times to believe the worst, no matter how absurd, and did not particularly object to being deceived because it held every statement to be a lie anyhow. The totalitarian mass leaders based their propaganda on the correct psychological assumption that, under such conditions, one could make people believe the most fantastic statements one day, and trust that if the next day they were given irrefutable proof of their falsehood, they would take refuge in cynicism; instead of deserting the leaders who had lied to them, they would protest that they had known all along that the statement was a lie and would admire the leaders for their superior tactical cleverness”

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Cody montana wrote: »

Search function
Dementia
Your username

You’re welcome.

How will trump win, when he’s losing?

In fairness, Kidchameleon has not said Biden has dementia:

https://www.boards.ie/search/submit/?query=Dementia&forum=&user=195887&date_from=&date_to=

Ten of Swords

Thread title changed to something a bit less controversial

Smee_Again

super_furry wrote: »

So Trump is the first ever person to lose the popular vote twice? That will eat away at his ego.

No, both Dewey and Adlai Stevenson lost it twice.

Galwayguy35

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

I think Hannah Arendt spelled it out very well in 1951


“In an ever-changing, incomprehensible world the masses had reached the point where they would, at the same time, believe everything and nothing, think that everything was possible and that nothing was true. ... Mass propaganda discovered that its audience was ready at all times to believe the worst, no matter how absurd, and did not particularly object to being deceived because it held every statement to be a lie anyhow. The totalitarian mass leaders based their propaganda on the correct psychological assumption that, under such conditions, one could make people believe the most fantastic statements one day, and trust that if the next day they were given irrefutable proof of their falsehood, they would take refuge in cynicism; instead of deserting the leaders who had lied to them, they would protest that they had known all along that the statement was a lie and would admire the leaders for their superior tactical cleverness”

So me one leader of any country who has never lied, they all do it even the ones your own side on the left think are great.

namloc1980

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Of course I think Trump will win. There are many votes left to count and Joe Biden is an awful candidate.

Where exactly do you see Trump turning it around? He HAS to win Pennsylvania where he is currently behind by 30k and with about 90k mail in ballots to count the majority of those are in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. Can you set out your rationale?

Heres Johnny

Any chance of Biden addressing his beaten opponent and saying 'you're fired'

Would be quite sensational.

Smee_Again

Heres Johnny wrote: »

Any chance of Biden addressing his beaten opponent and saying 'you're fired'

Would be quite sensational.

Think of the ratings.

bazermc

I’m fascinated by CNN coverage on now

It’s 3/5am in the morning in the US (is anything even happening count wise?), yet they managed to fill hours with talk.

Heres Johnny

Heres Johnny wrote: »

Any chance of Biden addressing his beaten opponent and saying 'you're fired'

Would be quite sensational.

He's president till January..

km991148

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

So me one leader of any country who has never lied, they all do it even the ones your own side on the left think are great.

Ah cool. That makes it ok then?

What is your point? I don't think anyone has claimed otherwise. Of course people like to exaggerate or push their own agenda.

But with Trump, it's a question of scale. He goes off the charts with his bs, his false claims and very active disinformation. He discredits anything that doesn't agree with him and is entirely irresponsible in doing so and has no shame at all.

It really worries me that people are loosing the ability to make these distinctions. It's like we really are in one big collective race to the bottom.

Quite a nice looking graphic from Le Monde. Much better than those ghastly maps that colour in entire states and dilute all context.

https://twitter.com/chey_cobb/status/1324741908862771201

eagle eye

Scot_in_Dublin wrote:

On the betting side, was that maybe for another poster? I haven't mentioned betting at all in any of my posts to be honest.

Sorry my mistake. Fixed that.

km991148

Heres Johnny wrote: »

Any chance of Biden addressing his beaten opponent and saying 'you're fired'

Would be quite sensational.

I'd find it funny but I really hope he isn't tempted by such tactics.

That's not the actions of someone trying to heal a nation and bring people together. It will piss off more people and but worth it for the sake of a cheap laugh.

Kidchameleon

km991148 wrote: »

I'd find it funny but I really hope he isn't tempted by such tactics.

That's not the actions of someone trying to heal s nation and bring people together. It will piss off more people and but worth it for the sake of a cheap laugh.

Perhaps if Trump wins he wouldn't be so afraid to say it to Biden!

Quantum Erasure

Ten of Swords wrote: »

Thread title changed to something a bit less controversial

I object! Who objected to what it was originally?

Kidchameleon

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Perhaps if Trump wins he wouldn't be so afraid to say it to Biden!

Yeah but we all know trump has no class.

MeMen2_MoRi_

Americans literally drunk on democracy, booze sales up 68% on election Day.. Washington DC with 133% increase.. I think they're showing us how to do democracy..

namloc1980

MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »

Americans literally drunk on democracy, booze sales up 68% on election Day.. Washington DC with 133% increase.. I think they're showing us how to do democracy..

Nah. Even the longest count in Ireland would be finished by now and we have a much more complex PRSTV system than they do over there.

road_high

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Perhaps if Trump wins he wouldn't be so afraid to say it to Biden!

That’s quite a big If. Probably more chance of an alien invasion today tbh

namloc1980

ElitesTeam wrote: »

A rigged election by the demacorrupts. Desperate for a win. Stalin would be happy with how they won

You've been asked to provide evidence numerous times but you just come into the thread, throw around baseless statements and then slink away without providing any proof of your claims. Shameful.