Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

ChikiChiki

Just when you thought things could not get any lower.

It's like a bottomless pit.

Kermit.de.frog

This is a crime syndicate

A lot is going to be exposed quickly and I firmly believe Trump will go to prison.

We haven't even scratched the surface here.

Kermit.de.frog

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

This is a crime syndicate

A lot is going to be exposed quickly and I firmly believe Trump will go to prison.

We haven't even scratched the surface here.

I have this feeling trumps crack legal team will draft a presidential pardon of himself for the last minutes of his term, only for the detail in the pardon to reveal something that will eventually lead to one of his kids ending up in prison

Professor Moriarty

everlast75 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/1333909947042701316?s=19

Please vote below;

Is it

A) Bannon

Briody

C) Rudy

D) Someone else

My money is on Stone.

everlast75

https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1333901989953015809?s=19

A. criminal. enterprise.

froog

Its from august so likely stone. Giuliani probably the bag man. This is big.

everlast75

froog wrote: »

Its from august so likely stone. Giuliani probably the bag man. This is big.

I thought the story at the time was that stone didn't want a pardon. He didn't want to admit to doing anything wrong and wanted to keep his ability to vote?

timsey tiger

everlast75 wrote: »

I thought the story at the time was that stone didn't want a pardon. He didn't want to admit to doing anything wrong and wanted to keep his ability to vote?

well, with Stone the story is always a lie.

namloc1980

The crimes just keep on coming. Bribes for pardons - sounds about right for this administration and the unsavoury characters surrounding it.

Cody montana

President Trump is said to have discussed with advisers whether to grant pre-emptive pardons to his three oldest children and Jared Kushner.

It’s a crime family.

Overheal

Innocent people seek pardons...

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/sean-hannity-slams-fbi-doubles-down-on-trump-pardoning-himself-and-his-family-it-would-be-right-to-do-so-because-these-people-are-nuts/

I think a challenge to this would be accepted by the Supreme Court. In all effect, he hopes to set the precedent that a lame duck president could commit any and all manner of federal crimes, then pardon himself, with no ramifications from Congress, from impeachment, or from the DOJ from indictment. It would place a President above the law to the point where they could - taken to the legal extreme, commit 1st degree murder, or several murders or other serious crimes, and then immediately pardon themselves and all their co-conspirators, resign, and that's just supposed to be acceptable under the law and by the society. It would be legal for Trump to shoot Biden in the skull during his inauguration. King for a day.



I think Trump et al. must suppose the inability to take the 5th as civilians is not that much of a hamstring if they can just blather, "I don't recall." I don't think they've thought this through very clearly.

Overheal

Overheal wrote: »

It would place a President above the law to the point where they could - taken to the legal extreme, commit 1st degree murder, or several murders or other serious crimes.

Provided it was under Federal Jurisdiction, so within DC or under RICO or some such Federal statute

namloc1980

Cody montana wrote: »

President Trump is said to have discussed with advisers whether to grant pre-emptive pardons to his three oldest children and Jared Kushner.

It’s a crime family.

The base and right wingers will lap this up. It'll be spun as necessary to avoid a witch hunt by the evil Dems.

everlast75

namloc1980 wrote: »

The base and right wingers will lap this up. It'll be spun as necessary to avoid a witch hunt by the evil Dems.

Yep!

But hopefully the lesson will have been learned to not give 2 sh1ts what "his base" think.

There's no reasoning with these people.

It's important that those who have committed crimes be held to account in an impartial way so that this will not happen again.

namloc1980

namloc1980 wrote: »

The base and right wingers will lap this up. It'll be spun as necessary to avoid a witch hunt by the evil Dems.

"so Mr Trump, you admitted you and your family are criminals by issuing pardons?"

"Evil dems, blah, blah, witchhunt, blah blah, fake news, blah blah"

"so you don't trust that a jury of US citizens would find you not guilty when presented with any evidence?"

duploelabs

[Deleted User] wrote: »

"so Mr Trump, you admitted you and your family are criminals by issuing pardons?"

"Evil dems, blah, blah, witchhunt, blah blah, fake news, blah blah"

"so you don't trust that a jury of US citizens would find you not guilty when presented with any evidence?"

He didn't trust the called witnesses in his impeachment trial to toe the line

prinzeugen

everlast75 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/1333909947042701316?s=19

Please vote below;

Is it

A) Bannon

Briody

C) Rudy

D) Someone else

Ghislaine Maxwell has been mentioned more than anyone else on twitter.

Eoin

everlast75 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/1333909947042701316?s=19

Please vote below;

Is it

A) Bannon

Briody

C) Rudy

D) Someone else

A sharp-eyed user on twitter spotted that the redacted report showed a trailing apostrophe after the person's name, which implies their name ends with an "s".

Rick Gates maybe?

Cody montana

namloc1980 wrote: »

The base and right wingers will lap this up. It'll be spun as necessary to avoid a witch hunt by the evil Dems.

Can you imagine the rage if Obama had tried a stunt like this?

Yeah_Right

Eoin wrote: »

A sharp-eyed user on twitter spotted that the redacted report showed a trailing apostrophe after the person's name, which implies their name ends with an "s".

Rick Gates maybe?

You are assuming they use proper grammar. It's the Trump organisation.

VinLieger

Cody montana wrote: »

Can you imagine the rage if Obama had tried a stunt like this?

Give it 2 days and they will be claiming he did try something like this.

Quin_Dub

Eoin wrote: »

A sharp-eyed user on twitter spotted that the redacted report showed a trailing apostrophe after the person's name, which implies their name ends with an "s".

Rick Gates maybe?

No - Gates leverage wouldn't be money , it would be information.

This is a wealthy donor type that is looking for a get out of jail free card before Trump leaves.

Probably nothing to do with the Trump admin directly.

I'd be looking for a wealthy Trump donor that is under investigation for dodgy business dealings somewhere.

Guy:Incognito

How can any trump supporters condone any pardoning of anyone while also claiming "law and order"?

Law and order would be people actually answering for their crimes.

Yet they will bend over backwards to justify trump pardoning people.

PropJoe10

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

How can any trump supporters condone any pardoning of anyone while also claiming "law and order"?

Law and order would be people actually answering for their crimes.

Yet they will bend over backwards to justify trump pardoning people.

They don't care. They literally would follow Trump into the fiery pits of hell. And I really cannot offer any clear reason as to why.

Why someone would hail someone that's as corrupt and childish as Trump as the second coming of the Lord is just beyond my capability to understand.

The Nal

This is so good. This is the lunatic who was laughing sarcastically like Satan about Biden winning,

VinLieger

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

How can any trump supporters condone any pardoning of anyone while also claiming "law and order"?

Law and order would be people actually answering for their crimes.

Yet they will bend over backwards to justify trump pardoning people.

Cognitive dissonance as always is the answer

everlast75

VinLieger wrote: »

Cognitive dissonance as always is the answer

In 2015/2016 Trump said he could shoot someone in the middle of fifth avenue, and people would still vote for him.

That applies the same now as it did then.

He grossly mishandled the pandemic, tanked the deficit, alienated the U.S. from its allies, gave 2 fingers to environmental concerns, was AWOL when any disasters struck, inflamed racisim, was objectively the worst president in living history and yet 70 million still voted for him.

What I don't get is how his supporters don't recognise he despises them. He left them freezing in the cold, he jeopardised their health by holding rallies while lying to those attending about the dangers of COVID, told them that he wouldn't visit them only for the election, and yet they cheered him on.

Cult like indeed.

eagle eye

Guy:Incognito wrote:

How can any trump supporters condone any pardoning of anyone while also claiming "law and order"?

You just hopped up on a slippery slope there.
There have been many mystifying pardons given out by many Presidents.

duploelabs

eagle eye wrote: »

You just hopped up on a slippery slope there.
There have been many mystifying pardons given out by many Presidents.

Like?

timsey tiger

VinLieger wrote: »

Give it 2 days and they will be claiming he did try something like this.

eagle eye wrote: »

You just hopped up on a slippery slope there.
There have been many mystifying pardons given out by many Presidents.

:pac: Looks like you were way too conservative with your estimate.