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Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    Oh look it's the guy who gave a thorough opinion about an article while at work that he never read instead of reading the article first while at work.

    Have you read that article yet by the by?

    Ya, I read it later that day and said so but you didn't read the thread obviously :eek::eek::eek::eek:( How could you !!!) it didn't change my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    Nah, you're just going to start trying to pretend about things you have shown you give zero f*cks about under Trump, and will be called out for that painfully obvious and intentional hypocrisy.

    You'll need to stop projecting about religious veneration too, just because you and others have shown a cultish unwavering loyalty to Trump during his presidency doesn't mean others do to the other side. I don't know that anyone in this entire thread loves Biden.

    And you can see the future too, very handy.
    Unwavering loyalty to trump, you mean not agreeing that he is satan.
    I never thought he was amazing but definitely not as bad as many made out, exceptionally bad on Covid though, that was terrible. But I wont start explaining myself thats not productive here.
    No, no If I have to be labelled a Trump Cultist you'll have to be portrayed as supplicating to the altar of Joe and Kamala, thats how it works around here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭deceit


    I'm curious will this be enough to swing Georgia back to trump as enough votes are involved in this video evidence of fraud to flip it.
    https://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status/1334569329334083586
    https://twitter.com/patsimknee/status/1334773420765089792
    https://twitter.com/magninano/status/1334778246446129154


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,294 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    deceit wrote: »
    I'm curious will this be enough to swing Georgia back to trump as enough votes are involved in this video evidence of fraud to flip it.
    https://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status/1334569329334083586
    https://twitter.com/patsimknee/status/1334773420765089792
    https://twitter.com/magninano/status/1334778246446129154

    Quick! Get those videos to Rudy!!!

    Once he stops rummaging in his jocks long enough to mop the hair dye off his face, maybe he can clench his butt long enough to make legal submissions before the Court!

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭deceit


    everlast75 wrote: »
    Quick! Get those videos to Rudy!!!

    Once he stops rummaging in his jocks long enough to mop the hair dye off his face, maybe he can clench his butt long enough to make legal submissions before the Court!
    You mean the info that Rudy released yesterday?
    I find it funny the people that make fun of Rudy go by a CNN narrative which with project Veritas sitting on their 9am calls for the last few months and releasing the info over the last few days of recordings that show this to be made up for political reasons.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    deceit wrote: »
    I'm curious will this be enough to swing Georgia back to trump as enough votes are involved in this video evidence of fraud to flip it.
    https://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status/1334569329334083586
    https://twitter.com/patsimknee/status/1334773420765089792
    https://twitter.com/magninano/status/1334778246446129154

    Username checks out


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    What are those videos meant to be showing us? Someone moved some boxes around on a CCTV footage. Some votes were uploaded after being counted. Someone walks down a corridor full of boxes waiting to be counted and asks for a box of envelopes to open because they are bored.

    Nothing there shows anything or proves anything about anything...except there were people doing things and boxes of paper. Nothing to indicate anything untoward took place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭deceit


    robinph wrote: »
    What are those videos meant to be showing us? Someone moved some boxes around on a CCTV footage. Some votes were uploaded after being counted. Someone walks down a corridor full of boxes waiting to be counted and asks for a box of envelopes to open because they are bored.

    Nothing there shows anything or proves anything about anything...except there were people doing things and boxes of paper. Nothing to indicate anything untoward took place.
    It shows them kicking out monitors saying voting was finished for the night.
    When it was finished they brought out boxes hidden under a table and started counting them. This correlates with the time Biden got a huge jump in the graphs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,294 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 930 ✭✭✭one armed dwarf


    If the boxes being brought out from under the table is evidence of fraud then why do they publicly video said evidence of fraud for the world to see?

    Like it's not a secret that video exists of ballot counting, especially not to the people doing said counting.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,316 ✭✭✭✭briany


    It's hilarious. The hearings are the equivalent of pub talking. If you have smoking gun evidence, then hasten to the nearest court. Otherwise, jog on, lad.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    deceit wrote: »
    It shows them kicking out monitors saying voting was finished for the night.
    When it was finished they brought out boxes hidden under a table and started counting them. This correlates with the time Biden got a huge jump in the graphs.

    No it doesn't.

    It has someone speaking about those claims whilst we watch a video of some boxes being moved. She also says in the video it was 8:20am, not a time of day that would normally be called night, maybe time for a change of shift.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,168 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    briany wrote: »
    Have to think there are at least some Republicans who now think embracing the whole Tea Party movement wasn't such a great idea. It is directly out of that movement, and the naked populism spearheaded by Sarah Palin that the party now finds itself grappling a monster of a strength that could rend the party in two, and there'll be those who'll argue, even, that this schism has already been completed.

    Nah, it's not going to rend the party in two, it's going to swallow it whole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,973 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    everlast75 wrote: »

    The standard of legal drafting from trumps team is shocking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭deceit


    robinph wrote: »
    No it doesn't.

    It has someone speaking about those claims whilst we watch a video of some boxes being moved. She also says in the video it was 8:20am, not a time of day that would normally be called night, maybe time for a change of shift.
    https://twitter.com/stathanas/status/1334825762915016706/photo/1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭deceit


    Also they are voting boxes and they didn't just review letters, it shows them processing votes in the video. If the whole 2 hour period gets thrown out, that is enough to flip Georgia.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    deceit wrote: »

    What is that meant to prove? Some votes were counted, then they get uploaded to the results system and some coloured bars are printed on a graphic.

    Ratio of difference between the two columns matches the ratio between other uploads through the night. Big variation in the totals uploaded in each time slot, but so what. On it's own that proves nothing.

    Is it uploaded automatically on the hour, every hour? Is that chart showing each individual upload or is it showing hourly totals? Could one upload have been done at 1 minutes past the hour and another at 1 minute to the hour?

    They are just posting videos of boxes being moved and random charts, but no proof of anything other than an election happened and votes were counted and then added together.


  • Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    deceit wrote: »

    I'm a bit confused as what your view is. The link from this tweet demonstrates that it's nonsense?

    https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2020/12/fact-check-video-from-ga-does-not-show-suitcases-filled-with-ballots-pulled-from-under-a-table-after-poll-workers-dismissed.html
    The media and party observers were never told to leave because counting was over for the night, but they apparently followed workers who left once their job of opening envelopes was completed, the chief investigator for the secretary of state told Lead Stories. The observers were free to return at anytime, she said. Georgia law allows observers, but does not require them to be there for ballots to be counted, she said.
    deceit wrote: »
    Also they are voting boxes and they didn't just review letters, it shows them processing votes in the video. If the whole 2 hour period gets thrown out, that is enough to flip Georgia.

    No it wouldn't. Biden has a 12,670 vote lead and this hoax nonsense is regarding 10,000 ballots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,615 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    deceit wrote: »
    It shows them kicking out monitors saying voting was finished for the night.
    When it was finished they brought out boxes hidden under a table and started counting them. This correlates with the time Biden got a huge jump in the graphs.

    We all know this will be disproven in a few days.
    Then what narrative will ye run on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,054 ✭✭✭Shelga


    Anyone notice how quickly media coverage of Trump, over here anyway, seems to have shrunk since Biden was declared winner 4 weeks ago? I mean, yeah, they're covering his insane rants about a stolen election, but it's like 5th or 6th story now. He's not the first thing I see on the news every day anymore.

    It is utterly blissful and I can't wait to mute him completely from January 21st on.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭deceit


    robinph wrote: »
    What is that meant to prove? Some votes were counted, then they get uploaded to the results system and some coloured bars are printed on a graphic.

    Ratio of difference between the two columns matches the ratio between other uploads through the night. Big variation in the totals uploaded in each time slot, but so what. On it's own that proves nothing.

    Is it uploaded automatically on the hour, every hour? Is that chart showing each individual upload or is it showing hourly totals? Could one upload have been done at 1 minutes past the hour and another at 1 minute to the hour?

    They are just posting videos of boxes being moved and random charts, but no proof of anything other than an election happened and votes were counted and then added together.

    The machines on the desks are the counting machines, at the very least the processed votes without poll watchers present which I believe in Georgia is enough to get them tossed?
    These are counting the votes as they are processed live but tallied at specific intervals.
    Its also telling that they removed the central dominion server in this location when a judge was processing an ordering to prevent it being tampered with saying the system required patches and then broke the server. They did the same in this location with the 2018 election.


  • Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    deceit wrote: »
    The machines on the desks are the counting machines, at the very least the processed votes without poll watchers present which I believe in Georgia is enough to get them tossed?

    No it isn't. I already pointed that out in my post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,316 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Shelga wrote: »
    It is utterly blissful and I can't wait to mute him completely from January 21st on.

    It'll definitely be a welcome relief, but it would be unwise for anyone to think Trump or Trumpism is done. It would be the same folly as driving back a cockroach infestation, but only to the point where you don't really see any around the house. Meanwhile they're perfectly free to multiply in the walls and under the floorboards.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    If you have gone to the trouble of setting up a conspiracy across multiple counties, in multiple states with different leadership in each of those states to cheat at an election that is relatively finely balanced that you need so many thousand extra votes to appear in the right counting center at the time of the night and you somehow manage to have hundreds of people involved across each state pre filling out all these fake ballots. How do you manage to keep all of those people quiet about the scam, and why didn't you make sure that they filled out the other parts of the ballot as well to ensure that you also won the other various votes that were going on at the same time?

    If you have all this system setup to cheat, why do it so badly?


  • Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    robinph wrote: »
    If you have gone to the trouble of setting up a conspiracy across multiple counties, in multiple states with different leadership in each of those states to cheat at an election that is relatively finely balanced that you need so many thousand extra votes to appear in the right counting center at the time of the night and you somehow manage to have hundreds of people involved across each state pre filling out all these fake ballots. How do you manage to keep all of those people quiet about the scam, and why didn't you make sure that they filled out the other parts of the ballot as well to ensure that you also won the other various votes that were going on at the same time?

    If you have all this system setup to cheat, why do it so badly?

    Pretty much every conspiracy collapses when you think of it logically like that.

    "Every young, gifted boy who dreamt of becoming an astronaut when he was young and who then went on to work incredibly hard to fulfil that dream ended up being corrupt as they didn't speak out when the government told them and everyone else at NASA that they were going to fake a moon landing in order to trick millions of people for political reasons? Not a single one of those intelligent people at NASA had a conscious to just say no and tell the media what was going on? Not one?"

    Logic, however, is not a friend to conspiracy theorists.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    robinph wrote: »
    If you have gone to the trouble of setting up a conspiracy across multiple counties, in multiple states with different leadership in each of those states to cheat at an election that is relatively finely balanced that you need so many thousand extra votes to appear in the right counting center at the time of the night and you somehow manage to have hundreds of people involved across each state pre filling out all these fake ballots. How do you manage to keep all of those people quiet about the scam, and why didn't you make sure that they filled out the other parts of the ballot as well to ensure that you also won the other various votes that were going on at the same time?

    If you have all this system setup to cheat, why do it so badly?

    What was the plan supposed to be?

    We want to beat Trump , but we're still going to let McConnell have the Senate so he can neuter every possible piece of Legislation we might ever want to pass.

    What exactly is the point of carrying out Massive unprecedented levels of hyper sophisticated Fraud only to forget to tick a few extra boxes such that it prevents you from actually having any influence???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    deceit wrote: »
    The machines on the desks are the counting machines, at the very least the processed votes without poll watchers present which I believe in Georgia is enough to get them tossed?
    These are counting the votes as they are processed live but tallied at specific intervals.
    Its also telling that they removed the central dominion server in this location when a judge was processing an ordering to prevent it being tampered with saying the system required patches and then broke the server. They did the same in this location with the 2018 election.


    You should know that these daft conspiracy theories aren't aimed at serious people. Instead they're aimed at the gullible as a way to raise money. That's why sensible people people aren't falling for them while America's lower percentile are falling for it in droves. There are politicians and media heads promoting it too for their own interests but most of them don't believe it either. Again, these theories are aimed at the gullible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,942 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    deceit wrote:
    You mean the info that Rudy released yesterday? I find it funny the people that make fun of Rudy go by a CNN narrative which with project Veritas sitting on their 9am calls for the last few months and releasing the info over the last few days of recordings that show this to be made up for political reasons.
    I don't watch CNN, it's too biased for my taste.
    Rudy though is an absolute disgrace. Anybody with an ounce of respect for him is either a joker or lacking something.
    There's no possible way for a sound mind to not see what he is.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    It is very instructive that thus far , the only one mad enough to actually go into a court room with any of this so called "evidence" is Sidney Powell, and even Rudy thinks she's a bit off kilter.

    Talk is cheap.. Well for them it is, so far it has cost all his gullible supporters over $200M in donations to "Fund the fight" AKA "Pay Off Donnies Debts"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,294 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    What is noticeable is there are those that are perfectly willing to say how cracked and loopy Rudy and Sidney Powell are, but somehow seem to avoid saying that Trump is as bad if not worse for employing them and echoing what they are saying....

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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