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Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

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    #9572
    ExMachina1000
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    duploelabs wrote: »
    No its not. Please read a dictionary

    Lol
    Throw her s few bob. She wants s new laptop. Maybe a holiday if there is time.

    Although illegally accessing government websites might even be a federal crime so she might not have time for that holiday.


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    #9573
    [Deleted User]
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    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Lol
    Throw her s few bob. She wants s new laptop. Maybe a holiday if there is time

    Have you looked up the definition of grifting yet? Or do you just like making baseless accusations to feel good?


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    #9574
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    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    She broke the law by illegally logging into government websites.
    Police raided her home to seize her equipment.
    There is no wrong doing on the behalf of the police there. Standard operation

    Now she knows she is in trouble. Trouble she brought on herself. She is looking for 150k dollars to pay her fees and any debt from a court case.

    Is that accurate?

    Yes thats grifting

    Except the reason she logged in will likely affect the outcome of the case.

    Also grabbed from the merriam webster dictionary.

    Grifting: "to obtain (money or property) illicitly (as in a confidence game)"

    People donating to her are fully aware of why she's been arrested, they're also aware of the fact that she's provided accurate data on covid numbers that the state don't like being reported. She's doing a public service and logged into an account to encourage whistleblowing on state corruption.

    So no, not grifting as there is no confidence game in play and you really are a broken record with the angles you argue on these things.


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    #9575
    sydthebeat
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    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    She broke the law by illegally logging into government websites.
    Police raided her home to seize her equipment.
    There is no wrong doing on the behalf of the police there. Standard operation

    Now she knows she is in trouble. Trouble she brought on herself. She is looking for 150k dollars to pay her fees and any debt from a court case.

    Is that accurate?

    Yes thats grifting

    Her supposed "crime".... Sending a text message

    One Which Encouraged health service workers to speak out against the inaction against covid.

    Yeah, such a national security threat.....

    Again you don't know the meaning of the word Grift.

    But have a look at trumps "stop the steal" fund for a prime example of creaming money off idiots


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    #9576
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,450 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Lol
    Throw her s few bob. She wants s new laptop. Maybe a holiday if there is time

    Grifting is saying you need money for a cause but instead you're lining your own pockets.

    Like saying you need money to fight an election that categorically cannot be overturned, when you're actually pocketing the donations


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    #9577
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Except the reason she logged in will likely affect the outcome of the case.

    Also grabbed from the merriam webster dictionary.

    Grifting: "to obtain (money or property) illicitly (as in a confidence game)"

    People donating to her are fully aware of why she's been arrested, they're also aware of the fact that she's provided accurate data on covid numbers that the state don't like being reported. She's doing a public service and logged into an account to encourage whistleblowing on state corruption.

    So no, not grifting as there is no confidence game in play and you really are a broken record with the angles you argue on these things.

    The hypocrisy on this thread is ridiculous.

    Some grifting is ok
    Some law breaking is ok


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    #9578
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    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    The hypocrisy on this thread is ridiculous.

    Some grifting is ok
    Some law breaking is ok

    Yes, some law breaking is okay. Pretty sure you'll find plenty who have the utmost respect for the likes of Chelsea Manning, Deep Throat or Edward Snowden. They all broke the law in some form or another.

    Also you really don't understand the meaning of grifting.


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    #9579
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    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    The hypocrisy on this thread is ridiculous.

    Some grifting is ok
    Some law breaking is ok

    No, no grifting is ok. She is not grifting. Why don't just put on your big boy pants and admit that you misunderstood the meaning of the word and stop trying to skirt around it?


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    #9580
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,654 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    The hypocrisy on this thread is ridiculous.

    Some grifting is ok
    Some law breaking is ok

    No grifting is OK (look up the meaning, it's fraud. As a trumpist I'm sure you know the meaning of fraud)

    Its up to the courts to determine if a law has been broken, its not up to you to decide.


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    #9581
    ExMachina1000
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Yes, some law breaking is okay. Pretty sure you'll find plenty who have the utmost respect for the likes of Chelsea Manning, Deep Throat or Edward Snowden. They all broke the law in some form or another.

    Also you really don't understand the meaning of grifting.

    Who gets to decide which law breaking is ok?


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    #9582
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    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Who gets to decide which law breaking is ok?

    Those big boy pants will be staying off I take it?


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    #9583
    VinLieger
    Registered Users Posts: 18,167 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Who gets to decide which law breaking is ok?


    Trump apparently since hes the one going around pardoning people who have admitted to breaking the law.....


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    #9584
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,654 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Who gets to decide which law breaking is ok?

    lets wait to see if a law has been broken by this woman first, and if so, what the punishment will be


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    #9585
    eagle eye
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    Well hopefully the charges are dropped and if not and she gets convicted that Joe gives her a pardon and then a job


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    #9586
    ohnonotgmail
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    It seems the White House won't be having a nativity crib this year. They are having too much trouble finding three wise men and a virgin.


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    #9587
    PopePalpatine
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    It seems the White House won't be having a nativity crib this year. They are having too much trouble finding three wise men and a virgin.

    Those damned leftists stole Christmas! /s


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    #9588
    Cody montana
    Registered Users Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    1,500 Attorneys Call On Bar Associations To Condemn Trump Campaign Lawyers

    "Our profession needs to affirm that this behavior grossly deviates from the bar’s deep commitment to democratic institutions," they state in an open letter.


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    #9589
    MeMen2_MoRi_
    Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Who gets to decide which law breaking is ok?

    The courts get to decide, or use your judgement.. is breaking the law here such a damning thing when the intent is too help the wider public instead of it solely for the benefit of oneself.

    Like with Donnie fighting the great crime of mass voter fraud that there is supposedly massive amounts of evidence of yet the legal team can not speak of it in courts, all the while his groupies harass people by email etc for more money to fight this zero evidence case..

    I know which one sounds better for the wider public to fund!


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    #9590
    MeMen2_MoRi_
    Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    Bidens nomination for defence sec, sits on the board of one of the military industrial complex companies (Raytheon).

    Uhmmm new war incoming??

    I didn't watch a whole lot of bidens campaign talks, of the few clips I seen the only country I seen him speak about was Venezuela and working with partners to help the Venezuelan people..


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    #9591
    Boggles
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    MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »
    Bidens nomination for defence sec, sits on the board of one of the military industrial complex companies (Raytheon).

    Uhmmm new war incoming??

    I wonder does he know Mark Esper?


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    #9592
    MeMen2_MoRi_
    Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    Boggles wrote: »
    I wonder does he know Mark Esper?

    Probabilities would suggest yes.


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    #9593
    MeMen2_MoRi_
    Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    Sorry not sorry, this gave me a good chuckle..

    https://twitter.com/CaslerNoel/status/1336145088137801728?s=19


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    #9594
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »
    Bidens nomination for defence sec, sits on the board of one of the military industrial complex companies (Raytheon).

    Uhmmm new war incoming??

    I'm not sure what Biden was thinking here in terms of optics. It's definitely not a good look to have a former military Raytheon board member in this position given that it had been a civilian role until Trump. He might do a good job but this really doesn't look great.

    As for a new war, I don't think there's any appetite for that but the arms manufacturers don't need the US to be directly involved in a war to turn a profit when they can sell to cnuts like the Saudis.


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    #9595
    seamus
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    MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »
    Sorry not sorry, this gave me a good chuckle..

    https://twitter.com/CaslerNoel/status/1336145088137801728?s=19

    That actually fits suprisingly well with the claim that Trump has to permanently wear an adult nappy.

    Allegedly years of abusing prescription meds have left him partially incontinent.


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    #9596
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    mcmoustache wrote: »
    I'm not sure what Biden was thinking here in terms of optics. It's definitely not a good look to have a former military Raytheon board member in this position given that it had been a civilian role until Trump. He might do a good job but this really doesn't look great.

    As for a new war, I don't think there's any appetite for that but the arms manufacturers don't need the US to be directly involved in a war to turn a profit when they can sell to cnuts like the Saudis.

    What do you mean by this? There have been plenty of SecDefs who have previously been in the military, including under Trump. In what way is Lloyd Austin not a civilian but James Mattis is?

    Edit: I misread you, I thought you said "including Trump" rather than "until Trump". :)


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    #9597
    MeMen2_MoRi_
    Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    mcmoustache wrote: »
    I'm not sure what Biden was thinking here in terms of optics. It's definitely not a good look to have a former military Raytheon board member in this position given that it had been a civilian role until Trump. He might do a good job but this really doesn't look great.

    As for a new war, I don't think there's any appetite for that but the arms manufacturers don't need the US to be directly involved in a war to turn a profit when they can sell to cnuts like the Saudis.

    What is also not a great bit of info, is that he needs a waiver to be confirmed because he isn't long enough retired from service... Not that he's not long enough out of being a board member at Raytheon.

    To me that sounds like a broken system.

    Hopefully the suspicions don't come to pass.


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    #9598
    Smee_Again
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    seamus wrote: »
    That actually fits suprisingly well with the claim that Trump has to permanently wear an adult nappy.

    Allegedly years of abusing prescription meds have left him partially incontinent.

    Well he certainly **** the bed in terms of his covid response.


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    #9599
    MeMen2_MoRi_
    Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    Smee_Again wrote: »
    Well he certainly **** the bed in terms of his covid response.

    Funny thing is, I think he started out trying to do the right things.. somewhere along the line someone either got in his his ear or he just had a fcuk it moment and gazed at the shining lights of the stock market and threw his hat behind the stocks and getting them back going again and hasn't been for turning since.

    Everything started to turn for the worse with trump and covid response around the time of the infamous tweets of liberate Michigan all that stuff.


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    #9600
    robinph
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    MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »
    Funny thing is, I think he started out trying to do the right things..

    Sorry, what? When was he trying to do the right things at the start of anything?

    It's a hoax, will all be gone in a couple of weeks, China created it, don't wear masks, drink bleach, stick a lUV light up your bum, the dems did it, name the vaccine after me...


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    #9601
    Quin_Dub
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    MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »
    Funny thing is, I think he started out trying to do the right things.. somewhere along the line someone either got in his his ear or he just had a fcuk it moment and gazed at the shining lights of the stock market and threw his hat behind the stocks and getting them back going again and hasn't been for turning since.

    Everything started to turn for the worse with trump and covid response around the time of the infamous tweets of liberate Michigan all that stuff.

    I couldn't disagree with that viewpoint more.

    He never got it right.

    He started off by trying to downplay it - "15 people, going down to zero very soon" etc.

    Then in early March he started to actually take it seriously, but only briefly.

    He was having the daily Press conferences and his popularity was on the up, getting some of the "rally round the flag" lift that most world leaders were getting.

    Then however he started to enjoy the daily limelight too much and his verbal diarrhea screwed it up with his disinfectant and "shining a light inside the body" rubbish.

    So , he stopped the briefings and just gave up personally - He put Pence in charge and just wandered off for a while.

    Then as the election season began to pick up pace he decided that the only thing he had to campaign on was the Economy so he started pushing the whole "Liberate" mantra.

    It's been an utter abdication of responsibility since then.


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