Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

Call Me Jimmy

Deleted User wrote: »

Except for the fact that it's actually true. It actually happened. Someone, somewhere gave the ok to actually do this. And even worse, America's Mayor (TM) turned up to jump through the hoops. Didn't bother to question the fact that he was giving a live speech in the back lot of a whatever the f*ck it was.

Giuliani is an obviously successful former prosecutor who suddenly became dumb when he started representing Donald Trump, does that not even cause a twinge in any part of your brain? BuT HE SpOkE To RusSiAn SpY AnD hE'S An AlCoHoLiC I rEaD iT In Me NeWsFeeD

vojiwox

froog wrote: »

reports of riot police gathering in white house. hopefully nothing dumb happens.

Hopefully Biden asks everyone at every site to just head home.

Cheers, now get home!

fullstop

hotmail.com wrote: »

I see another "policy" is to "heel" America.

Heel it from what?

Americans really are crazy.

Are you ok bud? You seem really upset.

NovemberWren

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Because there is an audience for that in Australia

maybe not so strange. Australia is very near to China and they may be very au fait with the politics of China.

Whereas the Australians themselves are more in the adventurous, buccaneering mould?

ohnonotgmail

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

i'm saying if trump can prove one, then he can call into question the whole thing. 'if 1, why not more?'

that's the tactic i think he will use. its irrelevant really as it turns out, as in January it goes to Pelosi i think if the election result remains in question.

So trump's end game (i think) will be to do that, so he always has (in his mind) that one silver lining to hold on to.

if the above scenario is the case, what happens? pelosi until the house votes on next president?

there have always been isolated cases of voter fraud. they are not going to overturn an entire election because somebody voted on behalf of their dead mother. Trump need to prove the election was rigged systematically. And he can't prove that because he doesn't have any evidence.

Guy:Incognito

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

i'm saying if trump can prove one, then he can call into question the whole thing. 'if 1, why not more?'

So if Hillary can find one from 2016 we can roll back the last 4 years then?

namloc1980

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

i'm saying if trump can prove one, then he can call into question the whole thing. 'if 1, why not more?'

that's the tactic i think he will use. its irrelevant really as it turns out, as in January it goes to Pelosi i think if the election result remains in question.

So trump's end game (i think) will be to do that, so he always has (in his mind) that one silver lining to hold on to.

if the above scenario is the case, what happens? pelosi until the house votes on next president?

It won't happen like that. The court cases will fail badly as they have so far this week. Judges have literally laughed Trump lawyers out of court in Georgia and Michigan already.

ohnonotgmail

NovemberWren wrote: »

maybe not so strange. Australia is very near to China and they may be very au fait with the politics of China.

Whereas the Australians themselves are more in the adventurous, buccaneering mould?

Sky Australia is the way it is because it is owned by Rupert Murdoch. Nothing to do with china. australia is 6000KM from beijing at its nearest point. not really very near.

LuckyLloyd

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

i'm saying if trump can prove one, then he can call into question the whole thing. 'if 1, why not more?'

that's the tactic i think he will use. its irrelevant really as it turns out, as in January it goes to Pelosi i think if the election result remains in question.

So trump's end game (i think) will be to do that, so he always has (in his mind) that one silver lining to hold on to.

if the above scenario is the case, what happens? pelosi until the house votes on next president?

It doesn't work like that.

Ultimately I think this litigation efforts are all a desperate damaging salve to his wounded ego. He has no chance of success and succeeding isn't the real objective anyway.

y0ssar1an22

Dante7 wrote: »

Biden just increased his margin by 1600 in Georgia after the latest dump of 1900. He is over 9000 ahead there now with not many votes left to count.

thats 84.2% of that tranche, presume clayton or dekalb county?

Billy Mays

The president's lawyer having a press conference in an out of town parking lot next to a sex shop

Madness

Guy:Incognito

NovemberWren wrote: »

maybe not so strange. Australia is very near to China a.

What rambling nonsense is this?

y0ssar1an22

froog wrote: »

that's not how the law works.

how does it work?

Call Me Jimmy

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

Giuliani is an obviously successful former prosecutor who suddenly became dumb when he started representing Donald Trump, does that not even cause a twinge in any part of your brain? BuT HE SpOkE To RusSiAn SpY AnD hE'S An AlCoHoLiC I rEaD iT In Me NeWsFeeD

If I was asked to give a live interview in a back lot next to a porn shop - I work in IT by the way - I think I'd have the sense to refuse and assume a colossal mistake had been made. Good luck with whatever you have going on with your caps lock there.

namloc1980

NovemberWren wrote: »

maybe not so strange. Australia is very near to China and they may be very au fait with the politics of China.

Whereas the Australians themselves are more in the adventurous, buccaneering mould?

Eh hang on there a second: Dublin is closer to Beijing by about 800km than Sydney is.

froog

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

how does it work?

you can't win a case by saying "here's one example of something illegal, therefore everything is illegal". it's the equivalent of the chewbacca defense.

namloc1980

This crowd in Wilmington looks so much more positive than the toxic crowd at MAGA rallies.

y0ssar1an22

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

there have always been isolated cases of voter fraud. they are not going to overturn an entire election because somebody voted on behalf of their dead mother. Trump need to prove the election was rigged systematically. And he can't prove that because he doesn't have any evidence.

if he can prove 1 case of fraud in every state (he lost), he can question the outcome in each of those states.

i agree, it wont matter a damn. but this is what i think he will try and do.

also agree that systemic rigging was so far from happening. i just think he is pot committed to this course of action and is too stubborn to back out now.

joe40

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

i'm saying if trump can prove one, then he can call into question the whole thing. 'if 1, why not more?'

that's the tactic i think he will use. its irrelevant really as it turns out, as in January it goes to Pelosi i think if the election result remains in question.

So trump's end game (i think) will be to do that, so he always has (in his mind) that one silver lining to hold on to.

if the above scenario is the case, what happens? pelosi until the house votes on next president?

There could easily be a case of voter fraud. It is a serious crime in America. I don't know but imagine there have been convictions in the past, it doesn't nullify the vote of millions of people.
I'm fairly sure there have been cases in our own country off voter fraud but incidence is too small to have any affect on election outcome.

Movementarian

Tigerbaby wrote: »

The "weight" I refer to is from both democrat and republican sources

I like to keep an open mind. I would recommend it to you.

No evidence then. Thanks

froog

a good (presumably) quality stream of his speech.

https://live.joebiden.com/c/victory

NovemberWren

NovemberWren wrote: »

maybe not so strange. Australia is very near to China and they may be very au fait with the politics of China.

Whereas the Australians themselves are more in the adventurous, buccaneering mould?

Australia is not near China and I don't think the Aussies would take kindly to you describing them as pirate fungus.

namloc1980

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

if he can prove 1 case of fraud in every state (he lost), he can question the outcome in each of those states.

i agree, it wont matter a damn. but this is what i think he will try and do.

also agree that systemic rigging was so far from happening. i just think he is pot committed to this course of action and is too stubborn to back out now.

Individual cases of voter fraud have happened at nearly every election and been prosecuted. None of those elections have ever been thrown out in their entirety. It won't happen here either.

y0ssar1an22

namloc1980 wrote: »

It won't happen like that. The court cases will fail badly as they have so far this week. Judges have literally laughed Trump lawyers out of court in Georgia and Michigan already.

but does he then not appeal to the next court until he ends up in the SC?

Strumms

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

if he can prove 1 case of fraud in every state (he lost), he can question the outcome in each of those states.

i agree, it wont matter a damn. but this is what i think he will try and do.

also agree that systemic rigging was so far from happening. i just think he is pot committed to this course of action and is too stubborn to back out now.

It’s nothing to him, he can afford it, an outgoing president who cares not a fûck, not one fûck about democracy, not one interest in anything aside from his ego, business, business community blahhh blahhh... mad times we are living through... he’s given the Democrats 20 years plus of ammunition if he goes ahead, people will simply stop trusting the Republicans, stop voting for them en masse, I’d say the republicans are ready to fûck him under the bus.

namloc1980

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

but does he then not appeal to the next court until he ends up in the SC?

No. The cases were thrown out for lack of evidence. There is nowhere to go after that.

Overheal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n22EQZfqG8s

y0ssar1an22

namloc1980 wrote: »

Individual cases of voter fraud have happened at nearly every election and been prosecuted. None of those elections have ever been thrown out in their entirety. It won't happen here either.

i just think trump will try and do this. i don't think he will be successful but he's a sore loser.

as an aside, how did the voter fraud happen?

froog

me on trump's twitter during biden speech.

jmayo

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

but does he then not appeal to the next court until he ends up in the SC?

Supreme court will not bail him out if he gets there.