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Are you adhering to the Households rule?

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    #722
    Paddygreen
    Registered Users Posts: 716 ✭✭✭Paddygreen


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    There is zero chance i could get covid on an empty beach but its outside the 5kms so I cant go .

    It’s against the rules. Confronted a strange looking jogger this morning, an outsider with a bad attitude who seemed to think he could jog wherever he wanted. Not on my patch. I used shame to banish him.


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    #723
    whatawaster
    Registered Users Posts: 12,906 ✭✭✭✭whatawaster


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    I agree with you .I have a nephew in a different county who could technically speaking visit his grandmothers grave in this county but not his parents who live 15 minutes away from the graveyard

    His dead grandmother and himself cannot infect each other


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    #724
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users Posts: 16,133 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    whatawaster wrote: »
    His dead grandmother and himself cannot infect each other

    And I cant infect a beach or it me but I am still not allowed go there


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    #725
    zerosugarbuzz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭zerosugarbuzz


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    And I cant infect a beach or it me but I am still not allowed go there

    True.


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    #726
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    zerosugarbuzz wrote: »
    Bit of a sweeping statement. You may either be lacking compassion or people to visit on compassionate grounds but not all of us are so unlucky. I would be making visits on these grounds whether the loopholes as you call them are there or not. Also if someone wants to visit a grave, there is Absolutely no chance of them contracting the virus from their already dead loved one.

    I see no problem with someone visiting the grave of a loved one, but the majority have proven they’ll use every loophole going to take advantage of. It’s the people saying they’re going to a grave and going elsewhere I’d be concerned about.


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    #727
    Triangle
    Registered Users Posts: 960 ✭✭✭Triangle


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    And I cant infect a beach or it me but I am still not allowed go there

    It's a large complex issue. You keep the rules simple so everyone knows them.

    My honest opinion is, if you live in a rural setting beside a beach only you go to. Then no harm.


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    #728
    whatawaster
    Registered Users Posts: 12,906 ✭✭✭✭whatawaster


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    And I cant infect a beach or it me but I am still not allowed go there

    The rules cannot cover every situation, I can see why the graveyard exception exists.

    Nobody needs to go to a beach.

    I can see why someone who has recently lost someone might need to go to a grave


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    #729
    D3V!L
    Registered Users Posts: 2,947 ✭✭✭D3V!L


    I have a sister that went to her in-laws house for Christmas, spent the couple fo days there. Then travelled 200 kilometres into the Midlands and stayed with my mother (who I can't visit) , stayed with her and then visited other homes of other siblings.

    Then to top it off her partner travelled all the way down to Midlands town to collect her and bring her back to their shared Dublin house.

    I'm so annoyed I can't talk to her.


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    #730
    zerosugarbuzz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭zerosugarbuzz


    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    I see no problem with someone visiting the grave of a loved one, but the majority have proven they’ll use every loophole going to take advantage of. It’s the people saying they’re going to a grave and going elsewhere I’d be concerned about.

    A wild guess but I’d imagine you have no proof of this.


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    #731
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users Posts: 16,133 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    D3V!L wrote: »
    I have a sister that went to her in-laws house for Christmas, spent the couple fo days there. Then travelled 200 kilometres into the Midlands and stayed with my mother (who I can't visit) , stayed with her and then visited other homes of other siblings.

    Then to top it off her partner travelled all the way down to Midlands town to collect her and bring her back to their shared Dublin house.

    I'm so annoyed I can't talk to her.

    We were only chatting here about situations like that .It is beginning to cause rifts and rows among families and its a very sad thing to see .


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    #732
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users Posts: 16,133 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    whatawaster wrote: »
    The rules cannot cover every situation, I can see why the graveyard exception exists.

    Nobody needs to go to a beach.

    I can see why someone who has recently lost someone might need to go to a grave

    Yes , I can understand that , but unfortunately its a loop hole open wide to abuse


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    #733
    Stark
    Registered Users Posts: 20,978 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Paddygreen wrote: »
    It’s against the rules. Confronted a strange looking jogger this morning, an outsider with a bad attitude who seemed to think he could jog wherever he wanted. Not on my patch. I used shame to banish him.

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    #734
    zerosugarbuzz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭zerosugarbuzz


    D3V!L wrote: »
    I have a sister that went to her in-laws house for Christmas, spent the couple fo days there. Then travelled 200 kilometres into the Midlands and stayed with my mother (who I can't visit) , stayed with her and then visited other homes of other siblings.

    Then to top it off her partner travelled all the way down to Midlands town to collect her and bring her back to their shared Dublin house.

    I'm so annoyed I can't talk to her.

    Can you not wait and see if anyone becomes ill as a result of her actions? You could also take into account the fact that all those people welcomed her into their homes.


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    #735
    Browning
    Registered Users Posts: 122 ✭✭Browning


    My Brother and his wife plus four kids when to her mother's on christmas day for dinner. There they met 5 other family groups in total approx 14-18 people. Guess what 7 have already tested positive including my brother. He is floored with it at the minute, hopefully he will be ok. In the meantime his business and livelehood is in jeopardy. Its all about the small decisions and choices that you make. Was an oversized dinner worth catching covid. Ask my brother and his family. I think you know the answer.


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    #736
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    I see no problem with someone visiting the grave of a loved one, but the majority have proven they’ll use every loophole going to take advantage of. It’s the people saying they’re going to a grave and going elsewhere I’d be concerned about.

    Why would you be concerned? Its none of your business. Move on, live your own life and take your own precautions. You cannot control the actions of others, we will get through this. Stop being concerned about "others". It will make you happier too. :)


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    #737
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Why would you be concerned? Its none of your business. Move on, live your own life and take your own precautions. You cannot control the actions of others, we will get through this. Stop being concerned about "others". It will make you happier too. :)

    That’s not how all this works. Every needless risk the likes of you take increases the risk for everyone else, including me and the people I care about. Unfortunately your rotten attitude to others seems to be the common one too. We went from clapping on the doorsteps to sneaking around parties and forgetting our elderly very quick when it stopped suiting. Awful nation we’ve turned into.


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    #738
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    zerosugarbuzz wrote: »
    A wild guess but I’d imagine you have no proof of this.

    That’s what it always boils down to for someone on here that has nothing to say. No sorry, I didn’t run a survey on the general public. I just opened my eyes.


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    #739
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    That’s what it always boils down to for someone on here that has nothing to say. No sorry, I didn’t run a survey on the general public. I just opened my eyes.

    When one makes a claim , it’s not unreasonable to ask for evidence of said claim tbh.


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    #740
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    When one makes a claim , it’s not unreasonable to ask for evidence of said claim tbh.

    It’s not reasonable at all to expect someone to run a survey of the whole country to state something, no. I’m on the roads enough, it’s obvious.


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    #741
    Paddygreen
    Registered Users Posts: 716 ✭✭✭Paddygreen


    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    It’s not reasonable at all to expect someone to run a survey of the whole country to state something, no. I’m on the roads enough, it’s obvious.

    I envy the cocoons Reg. I am always out and about too Reg and It is absolutely horrific out there, people doing stuff, I start gagging, makes me sick Reg.


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    #742
    Stateofyou
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Why would you be concerned? Its none of your business. Move on, live your own life and take your own precautions. You cannot control the actions of others, we will get through this. Stop being concerned about "others". It will make you happier too. :)

    Interesting comment, when in the best of times this is a country of curtain twitchers, school gate gossipers, and judgmental begrudgery so bad it's a national pastime.


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    #743
    jrosen
    Registered Users Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭jrosen


    We will all only get through this If we all do as we are being asked. We are in this situation now because people took the piss. People continued to visit multiple people, failed to wear masks, failed to keep their distance.

    The really annoying thing is we all have the power to make this easier on eachother by making small sacrifices. It’s evident there are plenty who don’t want to play ball


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    #744
    Paddygreen
    Registered Users Posts: 716 ✭✭✭Paddygreen


    jrosen wrote: »
    We will all only get through this If we all do as we are being asked. We are in this situation now because people took the piss. People continued to visit multiple people, failed to wear masks, failed to keep their distance.

    The really annoying thing is we all have the power to make this easier on eachother by making small sacrifices. It’s evident there are plenty who don’t want to play ball

    Shame. Public shaming is the way to go. Pointing and shunning are great tools, point at the rule breakers at a distance then shun them to drive home the point that they are unclean. The dermatitis is so bad on my hands now from slathering them with industrial alcohol and a cocktail of various chemicals that I finding it harder to point. Who’ll take my place?


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    #745
    John O.Groats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    Don’t be flippant, it achieves nothing. Outside grabbing you those few thanks you need anyway.

    For now they should fall under the 5km rule at the very least and not be an open excuse for any amount of travel. People can’t visit their relations that are alive currently so I don’t see why this is being left as a loophole just to visit dead ones.



    .

    Paddy is a parody account but it `s quite obvious that he is anti restrictions at heart.


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    #746
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    dwainec wrote: »
    If this is true they may as well just open fully. What a joke of a "lock down"

    Anyone that wants to 100% lockdown, can. And they’ll be 100% safe. Why so nosy about what others do?


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    #747
    Stateofyou
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Anyone that wants to 100% lockdown, can. And they’ll be 100% safe. Why so nosy about what others do?

    And anyone that wanted to did, but clearly without the majority of people doing the same the country is in big trouble. No one is 100% safe when the health care system of said country is on it's knees.


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    #748
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    And anyone that wanted to did, but clearly without the majority of people doing the same the country is in big trouble. No one is 100% safe when the health care system of said country is on it's knees.

    The health care system is the least busy it’s been for years.


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    #749
    Mongfinder General
    Registered Users Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭Mongfinder General


    jrosen wrote: »
    We will all only get through this If we all do as we are being asked. We are in this situation now because people took the piss. People continued to visit multiple people, failed to wear masks, failed to keep their distance.

    The really annoying thing is we all have the power to make this easier on eachother by making small sacrifices. It’s evident there are plenty who don’t want to play ball

    Took the piss is putting it mildly. I help out with a football team that has good facilities. 90% of the trades is from regulars. Well, all I can say is that during the month of December they behaved like cnuts. 3 or 4 drinks is all it took. Broke every rule/piece of guidance in the book. Literally didn’t give a fcuk. All ages, all backgrounds. Pig ignorant. Well **** them, because they probably won’t see a pint fir another theee months.


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    #750
    John O.Groats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    The health care system is the least busy it’s been for years.

    Evidence for this claim?


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    #751
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    John O.Groats wrote: »
    Evidence for this claim?

    All figures available from the HSE.


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