England v Republic of Ireland - Match Thread - 8pm 12/11/20 - RTE

magma69

10000maniacs wrote: »

Roy Keane
Liam Brady
Steve Highway
Johnny Giles
Frank Stapleton
Ray Houghton
Paul McGrath
Dave O'Leary
Don Givens
John Aldridge
Denis Irwin
Ronnie Whelan

No point in fielding a team at this level if we don't have a SINGLE PLAYER to polish any of their boots.
Sad.

Yes, let's just retire our entire senior international set up. Brilliant suggestion.

Francie Barrett

Jesus, O'shea lucky there.

ben.schlomo

Fromvert wrote: »

Our squad is in a sad state and has been for a long time. England could field a team of full backs and hammer us

Trippier - Walker - Wan-Bissaka - Targett

Maitland Niles - TAA - James - Chilwell

Lamptey - Saka 

What was score in that one? Motm? Who reffed it?

useless

Hamilton has caught the virus off Cunningham. Has just invented a new England player called Jade Bellingham

Mr.Nice Guy

event wrote: »

Definitely.
They can hire Sam Allaydyce or Tony Pulis and get us back to the style of football that we have played for the last 12 years. We got to amazing highs like getting to 2 euros, playing 7 games and losing 5 of them. Scoring 4 goals and conceding 15. Players like Conor Sammon and Paul Green getting a game. Getting beat 4-1 by Wales, 5-1 by Denmark and Portugal.

We have such a great and vivid history that losing games is so alien to us, we need to sack him before he ruins our amazing world reputation and chances of qualifying for the next world Cup. Cos we we always certs to get to that

Why is it assumed Kenny is going to do better than the above, as opposed to doing much worse?

Where are the amazing highs in over 500 minutes of football with no goals in open play?

Witcher

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Why is it assumed Kenny is going to do better than the above, as opposed to doing much worse?

Where are the amazing highs in over 500 minutes of football with no goals in open play?

'Dundalk..something, something, Europa League'

Beating the mighty Jeunesse Esch who are currently 7th in the Luxembourg premier division.

Did Mick Mccarthy ever beat those world killers...I don't think so.

Kermit.de.frog

7th game on the trot without a win.

10000maniacs

10000maniacs wrote: »

Roy Keane
Liam Brady
Steve Highway
Johnny Giles
Frank Stapleton
Ray Houghton
Paul McGrath
Dave O'Leary
Don Givens
John Aldridge
Denis Irwin
Ronnie Whelan

No point in fielding a team at this level if we don't have a SINGLE PLAYER to polish any of their boots.
Sad.

Don Givens?

That was random! I'd have gone for Duff, Robbie Keane, Staunton and about 25 more before I'd think about Givens!

SEPT 23 1989

Cunningham is trying to polish a turd

Francie Barrett

"not often you see Harry Maguire playing successful Hollywood crosses"

ERG89

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

9th game on the trot without a win.

A goal is progress at this stage never mind a win as we are f*cking desperate

weldoninhio

The future is bright according to Kenny C.

LuckyLloyd

It's been pure ****e under Kenny. Let's just call a spade a spade.

CantGetNoSleep

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Well he managed to get Dundalk to play his style in the Europa League

They still got hockeyed in every game though but maybe he is trying the same here

The White Feather

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

9th game on the trot without a win.

I would just like us to score at this point. Even a shot on target would be nice

Quantum Erasure

Deleted User wrote: »

Taking a knee isn't about adopting and apologising...

What's it about so?

signostic

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

9th game on the trot without a win.

We are winning this one on back passes

Kermit.de.frog

NI Slovakia going to extra time.

ziggyman17

I can see Neil Warnock being unveiled in about 12 months as the new manager and saviour of the Irish team.........:D

RonanG86

glenjamin wrote: »

Yet he and Hendrick are undroppable, while Cullen, Knight and Byrne can't seem to get a look in.

Hendrick shows flashes but hasn't delivered a consistent performance over 90 minutes, pretty much ever in an Ireland shirt. Hourihane appears to be wasting his talent with laziness. Doesn't get involved in the game nearly enough. I don't watch Villa, is he like this for them?

They've both been shocking tonight. Neither showing for the ball leaving the likes of Duffy & Christie trying to playmake from the back, which works about as well as you could predict. The few times they have picked it up deep they haven't been on the half turn or looking for space properly and just have to go back to the defenders.

He has to try someone else. Molumby did more than the two incumbents put together the couple of times he played without being the reincarnation of Ronnie Whelan or anything mad like that. What are the likes of Cullen or Knight going to do? Not play well? That's what Hourihane and Hendrick are doing at the moment, might as well try.

Mr.Nice Guy

Witcher wrote: »

'Dundalk..something, something, Europa League'

And if we're being hyper critical of the performances of limited teams in tournaments...

Dundalk's Europa League record under Kenny: 4 losses, 1 draw, 1 win. Bottom of the group and eliminated. Goal difference of -3.

This is what we're basing the future of the national team on.

The White Feather

The White Feather wrote: »

I would just like us to score at this point. Even a shot on target would be nice

Curtis provides it. Him and Molumby look hungry at least

Peter File

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

They still got hockeyed in every game though but maybe he is trying the same here

They didnt get "hockeyed" in the Europa league with him as manager.
This though is a hockeying!

Faugheen

People have short memories.

All of these ‘big moments’ recently people seem to forget that we rode our luck immensely.

No surprise we look much better since Molumby’s come on again. He needs to play ahead of Hourihane.

Kenny is in over his head.

His lack of decent quality management experience is catching up with him.

crushproof

Not a great spectacle from an Irish perspective. I've no idea what's going on with Duffy but he's been utter muck at Celtic and showing it here. Did he somehow manage to bluff his way through his entire time in England? Absolutely baffling.

The English lads are loving this and as someone else said they could field a third or fourth team and still beat us. Dire times.

~Rebel~

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Why is it assumed Kenny is going to do better than the above, as opposed to doing much worse?

Where are the amazing highs in over 500 minutes of football with no goals in open play?

I’d assume nothing from anyone with regards Ireland tbh, though I do like a bit of a change in style at least. It’s made me more actively interested in watching, instead of grudging acceptance that I’d watch. Well, today aside. Nothing good was ever coming from this fixture.

The White Feather

RonanG86 wrote: »

Hendrick shows flashes but hasn't delivered a consistent performance over 90 minutes, pretty much ever in an Ireland shirt.

Sometimes I think Hendrick has the Ireland managers nudes !! :pac:

kksaints

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

They still got hockeyed in every game though but maybe he is trying the same here

Eh, no they didn't. They got four points, were the first Irish team to win a group match and never lost by more than one goal against much larger and much more European experienced clubs.

c.p.w.g.w

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

They still got hockeyed in every game though but maybe he is trying the same here

Yeah hockeyed in every game

10000maniacs

Deleted User wrote: »

Don Givens?

That was random! I'd have gone for Duff, Robbie Keane, Staunton and about 25 more before I'd think about Givens!

Givens was an exceptional player for Ireland and QPR. QPR were a pretty decent team in the mid 70's and Givens was the driving force. They were pipped to the title by one point in 1975.

Faugheen

RonanG86 wrote: »

Hendrick shows flashes but hasn't delivered a consistent performance over 90 minutes, pretty much ever in an Ireland shirt. Hourihane appears to be wasting his talent with laziness. Doesn't get involved in the game nearly enough. I don't watch Villa, is he like this for them?

They've both been shocking tonight. Neither showing for the ball leaving the likes of Duffy & Christie trying to playmake from the back, which works about as well as you could predict. The few times they have picked it up deep they haven't been on the half turn or looking for space properly and just have to go back to the defenders.

He has to try someone else. Molumby did more than the two incumbents put together the couple of times he played without being the reincarnation of Ronnie Whelan or anything mad like that. What are the likes of Cullen or Knight going to do? Not play well? That's what Hourihane and Hendrick are doing at the moment, might as well try.

This is very harsh on Hendrick. Hourihane was so lazy that Hendrick was the only one actually looking for the ball.

He’s controlled it incredibly well and he’s easily the best at that in this Irish team. People expect him to be this wizard but he’s not. Again, he looks better again since Molumby’s come on.

Hendrick is one of very few players who can come out of this game with any credit.

~Rebel~

The White Feather wrote: »

Sometimes I think Hendrick has the Ireland managers nudes !! :pac:

I don’t mind him at 6 to be honest. Hate seeing him at 10 though.

Dire performance, embarrassing result, empty stadium, a global pandemic and Kenny Cunningham. The only bright spot is that the RTÉ Player has held up well

c.p.w.g.w

kksaints wrote: »

Eh, no they didn't. They got four points, were the first Irish team to win a group match and never lost by more than one goal against much larger and much more European experienced clubs.

I included the table in an attached file below, but people will just ignore the facts on Kenny's performance in Europe with Dundalk...

weldoninhio

ziggyman17 wrote: »

I can see Neil Warnock being unveiled in about 12 months as the new manager and saviour of the Irish team.........:D

Current championship manager of the month nominee Neil Warnock? We’d be lucky.

The White Feather

sugarman wrote: »

I'd think expectations of our team, even with a full strength squad available need to be exponentially lowered.

They are lowered. We would like to just see us score at least. A few shots on target maybe.

magma69

This scoreline is exactly what you'd expect considering the gulf in class between squads. We're a mid level championship team against a top 4 Premiership team. Kenny deserves some time.

Peter File

Matt Doherty is Kenny's man of the match!!

For Forks Sake

What match is Cunningham describing? Because what he's talking about bears zero resemblance to what I'm seeing with my own eyes

Francie Barrett

Harry Maguire could have had a hat trick.

Father Hernandez

Does Kenny Cunningham have to give man of the match to an Irish player?

What's the point?

De Bhál

Lol motm

RonanG86

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

And if we're being hyper critical of the performances of limited teams in tournaments...

Dundalk's Europa League record under Kenny: 4 losses, 1 draw, 1 win. Bottom of the group and eliminated. Goal difference of -3.

This is what we're basing the future of the national team on.

Beating then Champions League regulars BATE Borisov to get there doesn't count as part of his Europa League record?

SEPT 23 1989

Does Kenny understand man of the match?

Faugheen

I’d have no problem playing Kevin Long and Dara O’Shea at CB against Wales to be honest. Long hasn’t been bad since coming into the side and O’Shea has taken both chances he’s been handed.

Kenny picking Doherty as MOTM? Dunno about that now.

weldoninhio

Peter File wrote: »

Matt Doherty is Kenny's man of the match!!

He’s been a defensive rock apparently.

johnnyryan89

Deleted User wrote: »

Dire performance, embarrassing result, empty stadium, a global pandemic and Kenny Cunningham. The only bright spot is that the RTÉ Player has held up well

Shocked that I've had no issues whatsoever tonight with the RTE player. It's definitely the first time I can say that.

LuckyLloyd

magma69 wrote: »

This scoreline is exactly what you'd expect considering the gulf in class between squads. We're a mid level championship team against a top 4 Premiership team. Kenny deserves some time.

He's getting time. He'll have gotten his time after the next two games are over. His honeymoon good will is all used up.

rizzodun

6 wrote: »

Kenny is in over his head.

His lack of decent quality management experience is catching up with him.

He's hardly releasing medical devices to market....

Geddit??

I'll see myself out....