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Nurse baby killer

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    #2
    E mac
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    British media seem to be quiet enough on this so far.


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    RasTa
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    18 babies in total, surely the worst serial killer in British history?


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    Boggles
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    RasTa wrote: »
    18 babies in total, surely the worst serial killer in British history?

    Well she hasn't been found guilty of anything.

    But how do you define "worse"?

    We have one in the news today that would have been up there.


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    RasTa
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    Boggles wrote: »
    Well she hasn't been found guilty of anything.

    But how do you define "worse"?

    We have one in the news today that would have been up there.

    Babies and been employed as a healthcare professional


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    Boggles
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    RasTa wrote: »
    Babies and been employed as a healthcare professional

    Neither of those things are new unfortunately.

    But again she isn't "worst" anything yet.

    These allegations have dragged on for quite some time.


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    Tom Mann Centuria
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    Beverley Allitt was another children's nurse who murdered children, attacked at least 13 kids in total. Healthcare isn't immune from employing very sick individuals, despite all the checks.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



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    Grab All Association
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    Remember Rebecca Leighton whose life was ruined by been falsely accused of murder?

    The gummy mouthed chavs shouting outside the court, the scum sun/mail paparazzi trying to take photos prison truck. Until convicted she should’ve been afforded anonymity. The uk never learns or it’s intentional to help Rupert sell papers.


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    humberklog
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    RasTa wrote: »
    18 babies in total, surely the worst serial killer in British history?

    Harold Shipman by a country mile.


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    suicide_circus
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    Grab All Association wrote: »
    The gummy mouthed chavs

    AKA parents of the dead babies


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    BorneTobyWilde
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    Must have little to go on if they have spoken to her multiple times before. Pinning it on someone just to feel like you're solving it is not the answer.
    Must be very little evidence in the case considering the story so far.


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    gmisk
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    spook_cook wrote: »
    A different ward and a few weeks in difference, and she'd be doing mighty work altogether.
    Huh? What do you mean?


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    Bikerman2019
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    Of course, innocent until proven guilty, but the delay in this suggests they were being super careful and lining up their ducks properly before acting.



    It is all over the local press
    https://www.chesterstandard.co.uk/news/18866296.nurse-lucy-letby-court-charged-murder-eight-babies-countess-chester-hospital---happened/
    https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/live-babies-murder-accused-letby-19275550


    And it is good that she is locked up. This is my home area hospital and I, along with my close family were born there. If she is found guilty, she will not be safe anywhere.


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    suicide_circus
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    Dont most countries name a person charged with murder?


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    seamus
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    Bikerman2019 wrote: »
    Of course, innocent until proven guilty, but the delay in this suggests they were being super careful and lining up their ducks properly before acting.
    This is probably it.

    Like Shipman, these kinds of killings are quite easy to detect ("Hey, loads of kids are dying over here") but really hard to prove.

    When someone knows what they're doing, then the difference between murder and natural death is very difficult to prove.

    The only reason Shipman was caught, was because he murdered a woman who had left 400k to him in her will. If he'd just gone on killing without material gain, his death toll could have twice what it was.

    The one time a flag was raised, police investigated and found no wrongdoing. He was believed to have killed about 210 people at that point.

    If this woman is found guilty - or if the court process doesn't completley exonerate her - she'll be one of the most notorious killers in modern UK history. Worse than the Wests or Hindley.


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    Tom Mann Centuria
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    Plenty of ways to murder people in healthcare, Potassium, Insulin, Air, Sedation, Anti coagulants etc etc., some easier to detect than others and with intravenous access already there, it can be done in seconds.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



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    Bikerman2019
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    seamus wrote: »
    This is probably it.

    Like Shipman, these kinds of killings are quite easy to detect ("Hey, loads of kids are dying over here") but really hard to prove.

    When someone knows what they're doing, then the difference between murder and natural death is very difficult to prove.

    The only reason Shipman was caught, was because he murdered a woman who had left 400k to him in her will. If he'd just gone on killing without material gain, his death toll could have twice what it was.

    The one time a flag was raised, police investigated and found no wrongdoing. He was believed to have killed about 210 people at that point.

    If this woman is found guilty - or if the court process doesn't completley exonerate her - she'll be one of the most notorious killers in modern UK history. Worse than the Wests or Hindley.


    This has hit a raw nerve. I know this hospital well. I was born there, my nieces were born there. If she is not COMPLETELY cleared, then she will be a marked person for life. I sincerely hope this is not true.


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    smurf492
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    Not the first killer nurse in ythe U.K. Remember Beverley Allitt and the children she both killed and attempted to kill...


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    ohnonotgmail
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    gmisk wrote: »
    Huh? What do you mean?

    It is a poorly judged jab at abortion.


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    gmisk
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    It is a poorly judged jab at abortion.
    Wow....classy!


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    political analyst
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    seamus wrote: »
    This is probably it.

    Like Shipman, these kinds of killings are quite easy to detect ("Hey, loads of kids are dying over here") but really hard to prove.

    When someone knows what they're doing, then the difference between murder and natural death is very difficult to prove.

    The only reason Shipman was caught, was because he murdered a woman who had left 400k to him in her will. If he'd just gone on killing without material gain, his death toll could have twice what it was.

    The one time a flag was raised, police investigated and found no wrongdoing. He was believed to have killed about 210 people at that point.

    If this woman is found guilty - or if the court process doesn't completley exonerate her - she'll be one of the most notorious killers in modern UK history. Worse than the Wests or Hindley.

    Actually, the Moors Murderers and the Wests are worse because of the agony they inflicted on their victims before killing them.


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    [Deleted User]
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    May the poor mites Rest In Peace. Thoughts and prayers with the bereaved families.


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    Be right back
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    May the poor mites Rest In Peace. Thoughts and prayers with the bereaved families.

    Two of the babies were of a set of triplets. Heartbreaking.


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    jimmycrackcorm
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    It's a double heartbreak for the parents. First the suffering of having their eagerly awaited baby die, then later find out that the baby was deliberately killed.
    That's another level of cruelty.


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    walshb
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    Boggles wrote: »
    Well she hasn't been found guilty of anything.

    But how do you define "worse"?

    We have one in the news today that would have been up there.

    I’d define worse here due to the victims being completely helpless and defenceless babies. The most helpless in our society..


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    Boggles
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    walshb wrote: »
    I’d define worse here due to the victims being completely helpless and defenceless babies. The most helpless in our society..


    I think Robert Black stands out as the most depraved cretinous piece of excrement that has ever been shát into existence in Britain.


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    walshb
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    Boggles wrote: »
    I think Robert Black stands out as the most depraved cretinous piece of excrement that has ever been shát into existence in Britain.

    Definitely up there alright! Vile man!


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    Sardonicat
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    Boggles wrote: »
    I think Robert Black stands out as the most depraved cretinous piece of excrement that has ever been shát into existence in Britain.

    I think he's in joint position with the Wests, followed closely by Hindley and Brady.


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    walshb
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    For me the most depraved and rotten of all are Baby Ps killers!!

    But this woman, if she did do this, and most likely she did, as they have been gathering evidence years now, is up there as just as scummy!


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    Jenna James
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    If true, the duplicity is astonishing. Horrific.


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    JP Liz V1
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    May the poor mites Rest In Peace. Thoughts and prayers with the bereaved families.
    Be right back wrote: »
    Two of the babies were of a set of triplets. Heartbreaking.

    :(

    RIP
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