There is a generation that has not grown up with .......

iamstop

Aglomerado wrote: »

The Creative Zen was one of the best Mp3 players. I had a 6gb one, lasted for years. Never had one as good since. The case on it eventually got cracked after one too many drops. It was fairly big too and hard to lose, unlike the unbranded Chinese one I bought off Ebay that I can't find now. I'm using Spotify on my phone now instead.

For me the MAJOR thing I had against 'i' products was that they forced you to use itunes, which I hated.

I bought a little 2GB Philips mp3 player and when I got it home it didn't have drag and drop like I had thought it would. I even asked the guy in the shop who said it was. I was raging. They accepted the return any way and I stuck with my minidisc for another while until I eventually got the Galaxy S. Still have it and it still works, even if it is painfully slow! Lol. I've the S9+ now with 512GB. Don't think there is any going back to using anything besides the phone as a music player.
Having said that, very sad Google Music shutdown and 'turned into' Youtube Music. Absolutely AWEFUL app altogether. I had a great library on GM that was great for listening to whenever I'd go travelling (remember travelling?)
RIP Google Music

AndrewJRenko

Vita nova wrote: »

I was recently in a hardware store looking for a shower unit and was thinking of this thread. In the 'bad old days', showers were rare and baths were more common, if you wanted a shower you could buy this all plastic attachment which looked a bit like a doctor's stethoscope, i.e. a Y-connector and 2 tubes off it that plugged unto the hot and cold bath taps (mixers were rare) and a shower head connected to the common tube.

They were never great, you had to hold the head all the time and if you tugged hard on them you could easily pull the plugs off the taps, even high water pressure would push the plug off. You can still get them but usually only in Mr. Price or Dealz type stores.

The real fun was when one or other plug pulled off and you were either chilled to the bone or scalded with 1st degree burns.

km991148

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

well now, it is and it isn't. He does use a phone like that in The Matrix BUT the one in the movie flicks open. the real one had to be opened manually. The 7710 looked a bit like it and that did flick open and it is usually called the Matrix phone but is not the one used in the movie.

Great phone. I can still feel the solid thunk of the slider.

CoBo55 wrote: »

Wap... The mobile phone version of dial up, absolutely dreadful.

Imagine using a WAP phone as a modem for online access.. that was slow alright!

whysobecause

Going to a shady video rental shop and getting a couple of "blue movies"

The Continental Op

Getting to the end of a CAM copy on VHS only to find its been tapped over a blue movie and that you have some embarrassing extra material.

riclad

Trying to use a browser on a windows mobile os phone, it was awful
going to a video rental store,looking thru a book with 1000s, of adult xx films .
the films were not on display, you just picked one from the list.

i still use a small mp3 player .
If my phone battery is low.
Installing games on old pc,s , some games came on 4 cdrom discs before dvd
drives were standard
i read about wap, i never saw anyone using a wap website .
it was the web on phones before smartphones were invented .

Capt'n Midnight

Deleted User wrote: »

Changing jumpers on a motherboard or hard drive

Plug n' pray

The Continental Op

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Plug n' pray

Or as some one once out it

Plug n' play may arse.

Capt'n Midnight

bullpost wrote: »

Banging side of tele (When they had a side) fixed 99% of problems with it.

Ah but the trick was to know where to bang it.

On a VT52 there's a small microswitch near the seam on the middle of the right hand side. Meant you always got a free terminal. The person in front you would be banging every which way.

When they'd given up you could sit down and 'tap' the sweat spot when they weren't looking.


From back when a Ford Model T cost $300-$400
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/charles-proteus-steinmetz-the-wizard-of-schenectady-51912022/

Ford, whose electrical engineers couldn’t solve some problems they were having with a gigantic generator, called Steinmetz in to the plant. Upon arriving, Steinmetz rejected all assistance and asked only for a notebook, pencil and cot. According to Scott, Steinmetz listened to the generator and scribbled computations on the notepad for two straight days and nights. On the second night, he asked for a ladder, climbed up the generator and made a chalk mark on its side. Then he told Ford’s skeptical engineers to remove a plate at the mark and replace sixteen windings from the field coil. They did, and the generator performed to perfection.

Henry Ford was thrilled until he got an invoice from General Electric in the amount of $10,000. Ford acknowledged Steinmetz’s success but balked at the figure. He asked for an itemized bill.

Steinmetz, Scott wrote, responded personally to Ford’s request with the following:

Making chalk mark on generator $1.

Knowing where to make mark $9,999.

Ford paid the bill.

AndrewJRenko

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

On a VT52 there's a small microswitch near the seam on the middle of the right hand side. Meant you always got a free terminal. The person in front you would be banging every which way.

When they'd given up you could sit down and 'tap' the sweat spot when they weren't looking.

They were some poxy yokes, the VT52s with the tiny screen and the fixed keyboard!

riclad wrote: »

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Installing games on old pc,s , some games came on 4 cdrom discs before dvd
drives were standard

Sheer luxury. Young people today don't know how lucky they are.

You haven't lived until you've installed MS Office on a production line of office PCs from 23 x 1.44" floppy discs.

Spore

Betamax... wait, no one has :pac:

Spore

developing your own photos! I seriously have all the gear, from the enlarger to the contact plates and the photographic paper and all the chemicals and timers etc. Just got all the gear out of the attic there. Everything still works. The enlarger was made in Czechoslovakia, I mean the country doesn't exist anymore but the enlarger does!

The Continental Op

Spore wrote: »

Betamax... wait, no one has :pac:

There is a generation that has not grown up with ....... out the shame of knowing they made a wrong decision.

buried

Maybe not so much in other countries but definitely here in Ireland there is a generation that has not grown up with mainstream radio stations playing a selection of new forward pushing music or syndicating a show that selects current forward pushing pop/rock/electronic music. This was not the case in the 80's, 90's early 2000's. The last mainstream show to do this was probably Dineen's slot for Today FM about nearly 15 years ago now. An Taobh Tuathail on Raidió na Gaeltachta still does it, but unfortunately that station is far from the ears of the majority. It's a f**king shame because plenty of good new music is being released on a constant basis but the mainstream stations won't touch it or allow anybody to play it. And these artists could do with the showcasing, especially now in the current situation where live shows are basically gone.

jamesbondings

wooden spoons/belts those of you who know, you know.

MsStote

...dialup internet sound lol

ohnonotgmail

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

They were some poxy yokes, the VT52s with the tiny screen and the fixed keyboard!


Sheer luxury. Young people today don't know how lucky they are.

You haven't lived until you've installed MS Office on a production line of office PCs from 23 x 1.44" floppy discs.

you had it easy. try installing windows 95 from 48(or was it 49) floppy discs.

Galwayguy35

Warm dry summers and cold frosty winters.

School desks with the ink well.

The yellow and white school bus that was probably already 20 years old.

Getting a haircut about every 3 months.

Army jackets and stonwashed jeans being the fashion trend.

Culchie thing here but having to spend the summer hols in the bog at turf.

The Continental Op

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

you had it easy. try installing windows 95 from 48(or was it 49) floppy discs.

Fairly sure it was only 13, but still far toooooo many.

ohnonotgmail

The Continental Op wrote: »

Fairly sure it was only 13, but still far toooooo many.

no i had it wrong. it was 29 not 48 or 49. That was the OEM version. the retail version came on 13 "floppies" but they weren't regular floppies as they held more than 1.44MB

bertiebomber

waiting and being patient - E.G like meeting a nice boy and arranging to see him the following weekend, looking forward to it and him being where you had agreed to meet. The pure innocent excitement of it.

bertiebomber

jamesbondings wrote: »

wooden spoons/belts those of you who know, you know.

thats whats wrong with this bunch no discipline no correction PC parenting = little scumbags

Bowlardo

Proper chocolate.
Cadburys dairy milk used to be unbelievable.
Nearly all chocolate are gone to shyte now and can't hold to the original receipe
Add proper Lucozade to the mix
whoops cold bars with more E numbers than you could shake a stick at

CoBo55

Space rocks I think they were called, they would actually bounce out of your mouth, brilliant!!

bertiebomber

home grown veg & fruit

AndrewJRenko

buried wrote: »

Maybe not so much in other countries but definitely here in Ireland there is a generation that has not grown up with mainstream radio stations playing a selection of new forward pushing music or syndicating a show that selects current forward pushing pop/rock/electronic music. This was not the case in the 80's, 90's early 2000's. The last mainstream show to do this was probably Dineen's slot for Today FM about nearly 15 years ago now. An Taobh Tuathail on Raidió na Gaeltachta still does it, but unfortunately that station is far from the ears of the majority. It's a f**king shame because plenty of good new music is being released on a constant basis but the mainstream stations won't touch it or allow anybody to play it. And these artists could do with the showcasing, especially now in the current situation where live shows are basically gone.

My 16yo didn't know how to tune in a radio station - asked me 'what number is 98FM at, Dad'. They've never used a radio dial.

ohnonotgmail

bertiebomber wrote: »

waiting and being patient - E.G like meeting a nice boy and arranging to see him the following weekend, looking forward to it and him being where you had agreed to meet. The pure innocent excitement of it.

Meeting someone under Clerys clock if you were a dub. Deciding how long you were going to stand there until you realised they weren't coming and gave up.

bertiebomber

waiting a whole week for an episode of Dallas !!

buried

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

My 16yo didn't know how to tune in a radio station - asked me 'what number is 98FM at, Dad'. They've never used a radio dial.

Yeah, that's kind of grim enough in itself. There is something comforting about listening to or watching broadcasts that you know other people are listening to or watching at the same time. It has a sort of communal effect, much like forums like this have, you know others are or may be involving themselves into what you are experiencing at the same time. It's not surprising though that your kid doesn't know what a radio dial is. The mainstream radio stations plays nothing for them only what the radio stations think they want, not what the kids actually need which is forward pushing work.

Capt'n Midnight

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

They were some poxy yokes, the VT52s with the tiny screen and the fixed keyboard!

The VT100's were the mutt's nuts compared to them.

Capt'n Midnight

ablelocks wrote: »

would you not think of refurbishing it and build in current tech?

The lazy option is Buetooth receiver wired into the volume control.

Most of the good separates had various inputs so dead easy to upgrade. If you can find the right cable that is.


Longwave and AM and turning the radio to get a good signal.


Cablelink used to have a matrix of their channels like a zoom meeting. So you could see the sports channel on 1/16th of the screen. No sound but you could listen to the radio and squint.

The Continental Op

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

The lazy option is Buetooth receiver wired into the volume control.

Most of the good separates had various inputs so dead easy to upgrade. If you can find the right cable that is.


Longwave and AM and turning the radio to get a good signal.


Cablelink used to have a matrix of their channels like a zoom meeting. So you could see the sports channel on 1/16th of the screen. No sound but you could listen to the radio and squint.

Longwave and AM no play well with anything with a microprocessor in it. If it wasn't for the massive interference from my computer I'd be listening to BBC Radio 4 as I type this on a Roberts (LW) Radio.

Day Lewin

Ha, radios?

Who remembers hanging a bunch of keys on the television "rabbit ears" to improve the reception?

Also, twiddling the knobs on the back of it: Horizontal Hold and Vertical Hold. No idea what those really were for, but it passed the time. Hissss...

CoBo55

Day Lewin wrote: »

Ha, radios?

Who remembers hanging a bunch of keys on the television "rabbit ears" to improve the reception?

Also, twiddling the knobs on the back of it: Horizontal Hold and Vertical Hold. No idea what those really were for, but it passed the time. Hissss...

Vertical hold stopped the picture rolling vertically, usually adjusted by the father accompanied by directions from the mother;)

Double lines around everything in the picture was another one.

branie2

Expensive flights before Michael O'Leary came along

The Continental Op

CoBo55 wrote: »

Vertical hold stopped the picture rolling vertically, usually adjusted by the father accompanied by directions from the mother;)

Double lines around everything in the picture was another one.

I don't remember it being quite as organized or polite as that.

CoBo55

The Continental Op wrote: »

I don't remember it being quite as organized or polite as that.

I gave the U version:pac:

branie2

TV stations closing down for the night.

Jenna James

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Meeting someone under Clerys clock if you were a dub. Deciding how long you were going to stand there until you realised they weren't coming and gave up.

Getting a 50 outside Brown Thomas (in Cork)

alias no.9

iamstop wrote: »

For me the MAJOR thing I had against 'i' products was that they forced you to use itunes, which I hated.

iTunes had its uses, once upon a time it seemed so hard to break out of the Apple ecosystem that Nokia made headlines by managing to get an iPhone to share its contacts by getting one of their phones to present itself as a car kit via Bluetooth. Not long after Sony were shipping software with their phones that prompted you to make an unencrypted backup of your iPhone from which the Sony software stripped just about any piece of personal data that you might have wanted to migrate to your new phone. I love that iTunes was the chink in the armour.

branie2

One Foot In the Grave

branie2

Smoking in pubs

Anesthetize

Making your own stone axes to go hunt woolly mammoths.

Carving crude stick figures onto the walls of your cave.

Banging flint stones together to start a fire, so that you can keep warm and not die.

Danno

Making your own TV aerial to pick up the 2 BBCs, UTV and CH4 from the nearest hill that had a relay. Didn't have the £100+ to purchase an aerial booster and have it installed. Could only ever get 2 out of the 4 stations, and if the weather was ****e, so was the reception.

LineConsole

“Video piracy, daylight robbery.”

Capt'n Midnight

LineConsole wrote: »

“Video piracy, daylight robbery.”

You Wouldn’t Steal a Car ?

The rights agency stole that work and then tried to claim massive fees for collecting the resulting fine.


FACT the Federation Against Copyright Theft pirated that music from Melchior Rietveldt who only licensed it to Buma/Stemra for one event and then when he went to the music royalty collection agency in the Neatherlands who are the aforementioned Buma/Stemra they tried to keep a third of that money as a finders fee.

sabat

A shelf on the wall of the chipper with chocolate bars and smokes because getting 10 Major and a Yorkie with your cod and chips was totally normal.

IAMAMORON

10 Major and a box of matches, Pints of bottled milk left outside your front door in the morning, taping the Radio.
Listening to Horse races in the bookies on the radio.
Spin the Bottle,Tip The Can,10 penny bags, apple drops,Chilly Willies
Brown Bags of Broken Biscuits and Club Milks,Super Cans
Bosco
The Magic Door
Slow Sets
Subutteo
Playing soccer with a Tennis Ball at break time
Kiss Cuddle or Torture
Driving down Grafton Street, or parking on it.
Leaving a car unlocked or without an alarm or demobiliser
Bus Conductors
Smoking in the Cinema, or on the bus.
Getting the ride
Shifting
A G A G R A G R O AGRO
Stink Bombs
Itching Powder
Address Books
actually dialing a phone number
RentaGhost
Anything Goes
Bagpuss
Battle of the Planets
Thermo Nuclear War
The Famous Five
Buck Rogers
The A Team
Nancy Drew
Champion the Wonder Horse
People actually phoning up the Late Late Show to talk about stuff that mattered and people up half the night listening to it and debating it for the whole week because it mattered.
The Pope
Pinching arse ( it is a lost art these days, only practiced by the very brave, or women, they get away with anything now its not fair )
Hogging the phone
Yokes that cost 25 quid and worked all night and gave you multiple rushes and made you look like a window licker
I can't remember the rest, its all a blur really.

Capt'n Midnight

Anesthetize wrote: »

Making your own stone axes to go hunt woolly mammoths.

Carving crude stick figures onto the walls of your cave.

Banging flint stones together to start a fire, so that you can keep warm and not die.

Stone axes, imported flints, fire ?

Luxury. We used to dream of a damp cave instead of having to live in the belly of a rotting mammoth carcass.

BeerWolf

Watching films on Laser Discs in the 80s and early 90s. Paired with a THX Surround Sound 5.1 setup was some quality stuff to watch on.