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Broadband in Cork

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    #62
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users Posts: 11,672 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    pwurple wrote: »
    Correct me if I'm wrong here...

    I'm urban Cork, south side. Living in this house for 8 years, and have never had broadband. One of a few houses that were built on the garden of another larger house. Seem to have been missed with communication infrastructure in general when they were built, and have not been able to ever get it fixed.

    House is not Siro enabled.
    No physical phoneline, the pole blew down in a storm years ago and was never replaced by eircom. It was rubbish anyway, very lossy. No phoneline means we cannot access vodaphone, eir, sky etc.
    Virgin Media - No service available
    Nova networks have told me the coverage isn't good here.
    We are ~110m from the nearest fibre enabled cabinet.

    So, apart from the crappy 3G/4G hotspots and dongles I've been using, there's nothing else, right?

    National broadband plan?
    Put your eircode in on nbi.ie
    If you’re not in it email DCCAE and they’ll survey your house.
    I’m in Rochestown and we’re being connected to fibre this month


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    #63
    TheDriver
    Registered Users Posts: 12,517 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    I failed to find any specific Ookla speed test but rather the speedtest by Ookla app which is same crowd as speedtest.net. I tested again using the app and as always, ping of 5ms and speeds of over 900 down, 100up.
    You also have nova selling the same product as pure and digiweb, sky and Vodafone deal with their own backhaul I think.


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    #64
    Sonics2k
    Registered Users Posts: 8,249 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Based in Carrigaline and recently had to switch from Sky due to the outrageous prices for speeds they offered, and the internet going down 4-5 times per day.

    Been with Vodafone a little over 3 weeks and getting over 800mb/s and not a single outage.


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    #65
    corks finest
    Registered Users Posts: 8,691 ✭✭✭corks finest


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    Based in Carrigaline and recently had to switch from Sky due to the outrageous prices for speeds they offered, and the internet going down 4-5 times per day.

    Been with Vodafone a little over 3 weeks and getting over 800mb/s and not a single outage.
    Lucky I'm with them years and have changed modems several times (VF insistence) had engineers out etc, but overall a decent service never at 800 mb down though


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    #66
    seefin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭seefin


    Need to decide whether to cancel virgin broadband today . Have ftth ( not Siro so Eir?) but Virgin sales rep said that even with this other providers won't be giving as fast speeds as sharing ? Is this true?
    Want to move to sky as get the tv package thrown in for same price but couldn't be dealing with any internet issues for the next year as wfh. Any thoughts ?


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    #67
    TheDriver
    Registered Users Posts: 12,517 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    seefin wrote: »
    Need to decide whether to cancel virgin broadband today . Have ftth ( not Siro so Eir?) but Virgin sales rep said that even with this other providers won't be giving as fast speeds as sharing ? Is this true?
    Want to move to sky as get the tv package thrown in for same price but couldn't be dealing with any internet issues for the next year as wfh. Any thoughts ?

    Sales guys will always give that rubbish, no one is as good as us.
    In theory sky should be as good but there are a good few stories over on the broadband forum of sky and vodafone customers suffering speed issues in the evening due to their own backhaul not being sufficient enough.
    I'd say ask neighbours who have similar products and ask for their experiences.


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    #68
    NeuralNetwork
    Closed Accounts Posts: 727 ✭✭✭NeuralNetwork


    pwurple wrote: »
    Correct me if I'm wrong here...

    I'm urban Cork, south side. Living in this house for 8 years, and have never had broadband. One of a few houses that were built on the garden of another larger house. Seem to have been missed with communication infrastructure in general when they were built, and have not been able to ever get it fixed.

    House is not Siro enabled.
    No physical phoneline, the pole blew down in a storm years ago and was never replaced by eircom. It was rubbish anyway, very lossy. No phoneline means we cannot access vodaphone, eir, sky etc.
    Virgin Media - No service available
    Nova networks have told me the coverage isn't good here.
    We are ~110m from the nearest fibre enabled cabinet.

    So, apart from the crappy 3G/4G hotspots and dongles I've been using, there's nothing else, right?

    You would need to just order FTTH from OpenEir or Siro when it’s available.

    The speeds available on copper phone lines have nothing to do with FTTH, they just use the same ducts ans poles to carry the fibre. Also if you last tried a phone like more than 7 years ago, it was ASDL2 over a long line from a telephone exchange. Almost all of Cork City suburbs has cabinet based VDSL2 with vectoring, which is vastly superior to ADSL.

    Siro would just become available based on your location at some stage. OpenEir would also be available based on location as they’ll be trying to win back customers who’ve left.

    If you’ve no phone line at all, you’d just have to order a new connection entirely. They don’t necessarily have any issues bringing in a line overhead.

    In older urban areas the lines typically run underground but come up at poles and do the drop from the pole overhead to the house. It’s not that big a deal to connect up.

    Also both of those networks are doing fairly big rollouts in the city. Just check your local Eir and ESB polls. If there’s fibre available you’ll see it literally looped on the polls every so often.

    Eir is currently rolling out FTTH micro ducts across the areas served by several of the city exchanges like Wellington Road (huge area of the northeast of the city), Quaker Road (big chunk of the south east city) and several others. They’ll have a lot of urban fibre to hone in place over the months ahead. COVID is slowing things up a bit, but they’re still rolling.


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    #69
    Dbu
    Registered Users Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Dbu


    TheDriver wrote: »
    I was the same, they took a fiver off the full price. Didn't believe me when I said I was leaving. so I left.
    PURE are great, I got the gig for 35 for 12 months. Its BT backhaul, works perfectly. Wired, I get 920-940 consistently.
    I can't see myself going back to VF to be honest, endless hours on wait, pressing numbers, passed between departments and always ending up with COMREG because no one wants to sort billing issues.

    Thanks for this much appreciated.
    I have done a bit or research and Im going with Pure Telecom.
    One question if I may, Im out of contract with VF, do I still have to give 30 days notice (and pay for the privilege)
    Thanks


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    #70
    jcomm123
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭jcomm123


    Hi all. Moving to a house in Douglas where Siro is available it looks like. Anyone in the area have any experience of the options available? Trying to decide between Pure Telecom and Vodafone at the moment but open to see if there is anything else to consider.

    Thanks very much


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    #71
    pwurple
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,449 ✭✭✭✭pwurple


    NeuralNetwork wrote: »
    You would need to just order FTTH from OpenEir or Siro when it’s available.

    Siro have told me I am just over the 100m cut off from the nearest pole, so they will never be able to deliver a service here. Sorry that wasn’t clear in previous post.

    I’ve tried to order a new connection, but they have said the position of the house is too challenging to supply. I’m not up the top of a mountain, it’s city.

    We have power, sewers, water, road. It’s a 110m lane to behind someone else’s house, so they would need to run it in a pipe or put in a new pole... is that too far from a junction box?


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    #72
    pwurple
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,449 ✭✭✭✭pwurple


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    National broadband plan?
    Put your eircode in on nbi.ie
    If you’re not in it email DCCAE and they’ll survey your house.
    I’m in Rochestown and we’re being connected to fibre this month

    Nbi.ie shows us as a blue area, as we are an anomaly here. Almost every other house here is covered.

    Dccae said I am in a planned SIRO rollout zone. Siro website says no plans to cover my address.

    Around in the same circle again.

    Ugh.


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    #73
    the beer revolu
    Registered Users Posts: 17,038 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    pwurple wrote: »
    Nbi.ie shows us as a blue area, as we are an anomaly here. Almost every other house here is covered.

    Dccae said I am in a planned SIRO rollout zone. Siro website says no plans to cover my address.

    Around in the same circle again.

    Ugh.

    You don't have a broadband connection of any sort or you can't get high speed fibre broadband?

    If it's the latter, it's not uncommon. I live in the city centre and the last time I checked, no fibre options are available to us.
    10mbps is a good speed here.


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    #74
    NeuralNetwork
    Closed Accounts Posts: 727 ✭✭✭NeuralNetwork


    There’s a massive rollout of FTTH from openEir going on at the moment in Cork City. Keep an eye out for loops of black micro ducts appearing coming up out of the ground at telephone poles. That’s the first stage of the installations.

    They’re popping up all over the city at the moment.


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    #75
    pwurple
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,449 ✭✭✭✭pwurple


    NeuralNetwork wrote: »
    There’s a massive rollout of FTTH from openEir going on at the moment in Cork City. Keep an eye out for loops of black micro ducts appearing coming up out of the ground at telephone poles. That’s the first stage of the installations.

    They’re popping up all over the city at the moment.

    Yup. I can see them all along our street here.

    Still over 100m from my house though... so.. won’t be accessible to me, right?


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    #76
    NeuralNetwork
    Closed Accounts Posts: 727 ✭✭✭NeuralNetwork


    pwurple wrote: »
    Yup. I can see them all along our street here.

    Still over 100m from my house though... so.. won’t be accessible to me, right?

    Should be.

    If your house is fed underground for Eir, it will come in via a duct. If it’s overhead they run fibre pole to pole.

    Those loops are just where the ducts come up out of the ground to a small aggregation box that will serve multiple houses. There are similar devices in the underground vaults (manholes).

    In urban areas, there’s an extensive duct network underground, but some places still use overhead drop wires to connect houses, so you’ll get a wire coming up the side of the pole from underground.

    If you’ve an eir line coming in, the fibre will likely follow a very similar route.


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    #77
    pwurple
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,449 ✭✭✭✭pwurple


    My house is not fed for Eir. Pole blew down in a storm years ago and was not replaced. I do not have an eir service.


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    #78
    the beer revolu
    Registered Users Posts: 17,038 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    pwurple wrote: »
    My house is not fed for Eir. Pole blew down in a storm years ago and was not replaced. I do not have an eir service.

    You don't have a phone line?


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    #79
    NeuralNetwork
    Closed Accounts Posts: 727 ✭✭✭NeuralNetwork


    pwurple wrote: »
    My house is not fed for Eir. Pole blew down in a storm years ago and was not replaced. I do not have an eir service.

    That’s a fairly unusual situation.

    You’ll just have to order a service from any of the ISPs who use openEir when it is live then. They’ll run a new line and treat it as a totally new connection.

    They’ll be in win back mode anyway, their aim is to take customers back from Virgin in particular.


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