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Gender Identity in Modern Ireland (Mod warnings and Threadbanned Users in OP)
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If mothers have to become birthing people to avoid offense, where is the campaign to rename fathers as "inseminating people" ? Men as "people with a penis"? I haven't seen any suggestion of this. This erasure is only ever targeted at women. Says it all
I’ve heard of the “people with a penis” one, and what of it? You really think it’s the equivalent, as if men would give a crap about “male bodied persons” and all the rest of it? Men the world over have all sorts of nicknames for their penis, “penis haver” would be nothing new. Calling a man a pussy would be nothing new either, but that would be offensive to him because it’s associating him with femininity. To imagine that it’s men are pushing for this is simply to argue in the face of all evidence to the contrary, and I’ve pointed this out before -One eyed Jack wrote: »The inclusive language which people objected to was ‘anyone with a cervix’. Of course the literature included a reference to transgender men, and the change in language was absolutely done for their benefit, because while rates of of cervical screening tests are low among women, they’re even lower among women who do not identify themselves as women! It was a poor attempt to be inclusive of all women, recognising that not all women identify themselves as women. Men weren’t pushing for any change in the language. The HSE information page relating to prostate cancer hasn’t been updated to suggest that women need to be screened for prostate cancer for example -
Responding to the complaint, the HSE’s cervical cancer information service said it aimed to make the programme accessible and inclusive of everyone in the population and to reduce health inequalities where possible.
Advice had been taken from World Health Organisation and Government documents on the use of gender neutral language, while HSE communications guidelines advise the use of “gender-neutral text wherever possible”.
It pointed to a recent example of “language revision” during the mychild.ie campaign, when “your child” and “they” were used in place of “he” or “she” in communications.
CervicalCheck information material has been created in consultation with patients representatives and stakeholders, the HSE also pointed out.
The Marie Keating Foundation told the woman, who does not want to be identified, it was “not in a position” to support her call for references to “women” to be put back into the communications material.
The HSE had taken expert advice before making the decision, “which was not one they chose lightly”, the charity said.
The HSE information page on prostate cancer refers frequently to “men” but has not been updated since 2011.
HSE defends removing references to ‘women’ in online cervical cancer information
There are a minority of people who are of the opinion that the skenes glands in women are analogous to the prostate glands in men, on sites which are by far more popular than the HSE information pages, websites such as Healthline for example -
Can Females Get Prostate Cancer?
I know you’re trying to assert that it’s men who are pushing for this gender neutral inclusive language nonsense or that it’s done to appease men, but that’s not borne out by reality -
Skene’s gland cancer (female prostate gland cancer)
Written by a woman.
Opinion: Creating a more equal post-COVID-19 world for people who menstruate
Written by women.
And for what it’s worth, the Healthline article I referenced earlier in this post - also written by a woman.
Not the least bit interesting, nor is it peculiar, not least because of the fact that women appear to care more about their health than men do and so are quicker to highlight issues in the area of healthcare, but women also appear to care more about gender equality and inclusiveness than men do, which is why women are more prominent in that area too. Essentially, your argument isn’t with men promoting this nonsense, the fact is that the majority of people promoting it appear to be at least - women.
And I’d forgotten about this doozy -
There are no black women on that panel, and there are no autistic women on that panel; there are only people of colour with special needs, or people of colour and people with special needs, if you really must participate in the Oppression Olympics. If men were behind this inclusive language nonsense, you wouldn’t even realise it today as it would have been in such common use in the Anglo-sphere by now that it would have made the words ‘woman’ or ‘men’ appear unusual.
However, it’s simply a fact that men generally have no interest in participating in the Oppression Olympics, as much as even Emma Watson and the United Nations may have wanted them to with their ridiculous HeForShe campaign -
While HeForShe has been met for the most part with support and approval, HeForShe has also been met with criticism. Although HeForShe has actively represented LGBTQ+ issues alongside sister campaign United Nations Free & Equal, some have expressed concerns that the name of the movement leaves behind non-binary individuals. HeForShe states its goal to engage cisgender men (the "He") as allies to all other gender identities, i.e. the focus of UN Women (the "She"), the full name of which is the Global Entity for Gender Equality and therefore is aimed at addressing all forms of inequality.
I like Emma Watson, but that whole campaign is a virtue signalling farce, like pretty much all of the campaigns for women’s equality, but they’re not just focused on women’s equality any more, now it’s all forms of inequality, leaving women on the back burner so to speak, women’s equality not being the trendy cause it once was among middle and upper class white women in WEIRD societies.0 -
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Aye, indeed.:rolleyes:CtevenSrowder wrote: »Who here has said the existence of transwomen is homophobic? We both know I'm wasting my time because noone has, and you'll just run away anyway now anyway, as you also know this is false.
See you ina few weeks Joey. Keep safe.
I remember a pile-on on these threads and in national newspapers and in public statements and social media when two lesbians setup the Irish branch of LGB Alliance - one of whom suffers from gender dysphoria but natch, she's not the right kind.
I remember them both being vilified, called 'nazis' and not 'being worthy of public representation' and that 'the media should blackball them'
No doubt, the push for cancellation of this thread is being ramped up by the troops of 'truth'
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Aye, indeed.:rolleyes:
I remember a pile-on on these threads and in national newspapers and in public statements and social media when two lesbians setup the Irish branch of LGB Alliance - one of whom suffers from gender dysphoria but natch, she's not the right kind.
I remember them both being vilified, called 'nazis' and not 'being worthy of public representation' and that 'the media should blackball them'
No doubt, the push for cancellation of this thread is being ramped up by the troops of 'truth'
Again.
Fair enough re the Nazis (or not as if that happened then not good at all). But who are these people looking to 'cancel the thread'? Do you know how that sounds? At best petty attempt to invoke thoughts around cancel culture and associate it with posters here and at worst down right paranoid!0 -
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One. One lesbian. There are oodles of other lesbians speaking out very volubly on the matter elsewhere. There is a whole global organisation mainly founded by lesbians on the matter - maybe you have heard of it, LGB Alliance. Now according to the hysterical they are supposedly led by satan himself and are worse than Hitler's henchmen. Or not.
https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/the-lgb-alliance-is-not-transphobic-we-are-just-trying-to-protect-ourselves-39727908.html
I believe I previously posted that story ,
Anyone want to guess what the reply was ?
Transpobic propaganda was the answer
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I have reread it carefully and from a debate point of view I would be interested in hearing clear argument that outlines any and all transphobia in it. It helps to know what on earth people include within that specific condemnation.
Read it several times and there is nothing in it to suggest what was claimed ,
I'm sure it will be claimed it's full of contradictions and non inclusive language but that's the standard post reply in here oh but ,but ,but ,
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statesaver wrote: »
Cowards not men ,
Imagine not having the testicles to make a stand or say what you think due to being afraid of cancellation agenda crowd ,
It's not about inclusive language it's about erasing women
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statesaver wrote: »
Ha ha, what a coward. Absolutely terrified of offending anyone. Just WHAT are Labour at? It’s like they want to stay out of government. They have completely lost touch with the electorate. Richard Burgon this week and then last week, another of their MPs, Alex Sobel, openly saying that he didn’t think that hospital wards, prisons, domestic violence shelters and changing rooms should be segregated by sex. He didn’t stop there, going as far as to post this beaut of a tweet. The big coward has since deleted it, without, I believe, ever addressing it. What a goober.
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Who came second and in what?
In Trinity apparently:
“I just clicked a box saying I was female” – male Trinity student comes 2nd in women’s race
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He's a man that came second place in a women's race at trinity college ,some might say it's a little transpobic to call them a loon after all they did say they were female
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