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Gender Identity in Modern Ireland (Mod warnings and Threadbanned Users in OP)
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[Deleted User] wrote: »Absolutely not.
If a man finds a trans woman attractive AFTER he knows their sex, then yes, he would be bisexual as he is knowingly finding a member of the same sex attractive.
There is a trans person called Blair White who was born male and now because of makeup and surgery passes as a very convincing and conventionally attractive woman.
If a straight man saw them and was sexually interested they would not be necessarily bisexual. Blair is purposely portraying female traits.
If the man knew that Blair was a biological man and still had sexual interest in them, then yes, they would be bisexual.
Bisexuality is having a sexual interest in male and female people.
I gave a simplistic definition because it's very simple.
Blair White and her boyfriend are just one example though, and even they don’t define their relationship in the same terms as you do with her boyfriend describing himself as straight. From a scientific point of view, the term which describes people who are attracted to people who are transgender is gynandromorphophilic (you can see why it’s not often used outside a scientific context
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In scientific literature, the terms gynandromorphophilic (noun: gynandromorphophilia) and gynemimetophilic (noun: gynemimetophilia) are used for men who are attracted to trans women who possess a combination of male and female physical characteristics.
Don’t get me wrong like I get where you’re coming from, it’s just that I’m not too hung up on defining sexual orientation for other people or anything else because to me personally, it’s just not that important how someone else defines their sexual orientation.
I couldn’t care less that they are exclusively sexually attracted to either men or women or that they have only ever had sex with men or women (I would care considerably if they defined themselves as being sexually attracted to children, of either sex), but generally speaking it’s just not something which I get too hung up about because while I may have one understanding, theirs may be completely different, and I don’t imagine for a minute that anyone is likely to define themselves according to how I, or anyone else for that matter, sees fit.
I’ve known far too many people who don’t define themselves according to english dictionary definitions and scientific or medical definitions and I’ve never felt any particular need to correct them on their terminology or use of language.
I think that’s where anyone is going to stumble if they try to define other people according to their standards or understanding, or try to define what other people’s standards or understanding should be, especially if they’re the sort of person who complains that they’re being “compelled” to refer to other people as they wish to be referred to. The opposite side of that is that those people wish for allowances to be made for them, to compel people to refer to themselves as that person wishes to refer to them.
That strikes me as double standards - freedom for themselves to refer to other people how they like, while arguing that people shouldn’t have the freedom to refer to themselves as they see themselves. It goes against the principles of self-determination, which is everyone’s human right, though other people of course do not recognise or acknowledge self-determination as a human right either when it doesn’t suit them to recognise that other people have human rights too, that they’re not just inanimate objects devoid of dignity or feelings and emotions.0 -
One eyed Jack wrote: »Blair White and her boyfriend are just one example though, and even they don’t define their relationship in the same terms as you do with her boyfriend describing himself as straight. From a scientific point of view, the term which describes people who are attracted to people who are transgender is gynandromorphophilic (you can see why it’s not often used outside a scientific context) -
In scientific literature, the terms gynandromorphophilic (noun: gynandromorphophilia) and gynemimetophilic (noun: gynemimetophilia) are used for men who are attracted to trans women who possess a combination of male and female physical characteristics.
Don’t get me wrong like I get where you’re coming from, it’s just that I’m not too hung up on defining sexual orientation for other people or anything else because to me personally, it’s just not that important how someone else defines their sexual orientation.
I couldn’t care less that they are exclusively sexually attracted to either men or women or that they have only ever had sex with men or women (I would care considerably if they defined themselves as being sexually attracted to children, of either sex), but generally speaking it’s just not something which I get too hung up about because while I may have one understanding, theirs may be completely different, and I don’t imagine for a minute that anyone is likely to define themselves according to how I, or anyone else for that matter, sees fit.
I’ve known far too many people who don’t define themselves according to english dictionary definitions and scientific or medical definitions and I’ve never felt any particular need to correct them on their terminology or use of language.
I think that’s where anyone is going to stumble if they try to define other people according to their standards or understanding, or try to define what other people’s standards or understanding should be, especially if they’re the sort of person who complains that they’re being “compelled” to refer to other people as they wish to be referred to. The opposite side of that is that those people wish for allowances to be made for them, to compel people to refer to themselves as that person wishes to refer to them.
That strikes me as double standards - freedom for themselves to refer to other people how they like, while arguing that people shouldn’t have the freedom to refer to themselves as they see themselves. It goes against the principles of self-determination, which is everyone’s human right, though other people of course do not recognise or acknowledge self-determination as a human right either when it doesn’t suit them to recognise that other people have human rights too, that they’re not just inanimate objects devoid of dignity or feelings and emotions.
Define yourself as you want. It won't make you right if you use a word incorrectly.
The never ending stream of infinite genders can have whatever definition they want.
Heterosexual, bisexual and homosexual are all established and defined. Wanting to change the definition because of gender identity is bull****.
It's typical of the same people who claim separation of gender and sex when it suits and then conflating when they decide.
Let the gender identity obsessed have their genders and definitions that make them feel cosy and non triggered.
When it comes to actual biological sex, there needs to be some adherence to common sense.0 -
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