RTE - head to correct thread if you want to discuss masks again

zerosugarbuzz

GreeBo wrote: »

You pay their wages.. Right... And were they working at the time in question?

Well they were at work obviously.

MelbourneMan

MelbourneMan wrote: »

Is the point you are making, that if there was widespread flouting of covid protocols then these RTE personnel should not get the particular focus they are attracting?
But that since, apart from a group of golfers some months ago, no one else in the country has broken covid protocol, even for a single instance, then these particular RTE workers should be criticised so publicly?

Howya horsebox. What seems to elude you (like most things) is that RTÉ have been pontificating to the nation for months about adhering to social distancing and wearing masks indoors. Day after day drilling home the same message, and then failing spectacularly to practice what they preach. It's called hypocrisy (your word of the day on Sesame Street), and these double standards cast a very unflattering light in the eyes of a public jaded by repeated condescension.

ISOP

MelbourneMan wrote: »

Is the point you are making, that if there was widespread flouting of covid protocols then these RTE personnel should not get the particular focus they are attracting?
But that since, apart from a group of golfers some months ago, no one else in the country has broken covid protocol, even for a single instance, then these particular RTE workers should be criticised so publicly?

The likes of Miriam O'Callaghan went after Woulfe and Phil Hogan with great relish. They need to be held to the same standards. They should all resign immediately, the bunch of hypocrites

NIMAN

I see a few people holding masks in their hands, so they either just carry them around for effect or else they were wearing them, but took them off for the photos.

I think I see Head of News and Eileen Dunne holding their masks.

mean gene

delighted to see them with egg in their face fully deserved

this is the channel that have been putting fear into a lot of pensioners all year with their fear mongering government agenda take on covid

Clonmel1000

I have to admit to being a bit torn on this one. I can’t stand RTE and rarely watch it and have found their behaviour since March reprehensible. I completely get the outrage over the double standards at play here from them and also the link with their hounding during golfgate.However what a terrible society and country we live in now where standing in for a photo with someone is seen as such a crime such a wrong thing to do. There’s probably a bigger issue here that’s developed or at least become apparent to me during this pandemic of people judging, finger wagging, curtain twitching, turning on each other which is unsettling to the extreme. The optics of this are all wrong, personally I don’t take any notice of what the man or the woman on the telly tells me anyway as I can think for myself thankfully but another witch hunt....meh.

NIMAN

The most interesting thing for me in this whole story is that RTe have a "Reception Supervisor".

What the hell is that? Is the reception area so busy that you need a special supervisor?

I can imagine the wages that go with that job!

Edit: or else its just a fancy title for a person who sits behind the front desk.

Darc19

Ah the faux outrage by the covid police.

It was a few photos

Get over it.

TomTomTim

Darc19 wrote: »

Ah the faux outrage by the covid police.

It was a few photos

Get over it.

It takes little self-awareness to make a statement like that. RTE has been pushing fear porn for months, using snapshots of Ireland to create outrage. So they are the guilty here by not living by their own standards, not us.

Mongfinder General

Darc19 wrote: »

Ah the faux outrage by the covid police.

It was a few photos

Get over it.

The RTE photos could probably be replicated a thousand times a day across the country. Many more are “guilty” of similar covid sins on a daily basis. The latest lockdown is a joke - from what I can see most people are just going about their business as much as they can. It is at the point where we see each other as the problem with the mindset being “everybody needs to stay at home, social distance and not make unnecessary journeys. Everybody needs to do this to stop the Spread of Covid”. That is, everybody except the individual. And because we’re all individuals we see others, particularly groups and crowds as the problem. Plus, we don’t really value the independence and life choices of others as we do our own because most of us put our own little lives first.
In terms of the personalities working for RTE, a lot of them are absolute arse holes pontificating about the dangers of Covid. They’re taking the piss with photos like that and deserve the same ****e that Seamus Wolfe is getting.

Cluedo Monopoly

To be fair RTE give themselves a dressing down on Radio 1 Playback today. The reporting does make them appear part of the political elite. Errors of judgement just doesn't cut it in level 5.

jackboy

It’s a good time for a clear out. None of them involved would be much of a loss. Miriam is mediocre, Dobbo is a pain in the hole. Why not get rid of them hold some interviews and get some newbies in on low money.

These individuals are no longer in a position to question or lecture others about Covid.

HerrKuehn

HerrKuehn wrote: »

Normally I would agree, but it seems at some point in 2020 the rules changed. The appropriate response to a perceived transgression seems to now be the destruction of a persons career. So maybe they should consider their positions?

I don’t think they should- the details of the so called party consist of some socially distanced farewell speeches- they obviously lapsed a bit as the party/gathering went on and appeared in some photos massless and too close- hopefully no cases of COVID emerge from this little gathering but it wasn’t enough to push them into presenting children’s TV

In fairness I actually blame RTE management a lot more- they approved this gathering- and encouraged people to attend- they could have said, hey we’d like to mark the retirement of our colleague so why not form a socially distant line outside and cheer her on as she departs the building- that would have been sensible.

Loafing Oaf

Just found out that the person whose leaving do called all the commotion is called Phil Collins. Hopefully there wasn't 'something in the air' at it...

Jinglejangle69

ISOP wrote: »

The likes of Miriam O'Callaghan went after Woulfe and Phil Hogan with great relish. They need to be held to the same standards. They should all resign immediately, the bunch of hypocrites

That's because her bro is FF.

She always let's her political bias slip.

Maggie Cash in her studio to have a go at FG when Maggie was the flavour of the month.

Hate them all.

Privileged entitled talentless gombeens.

iamwhoiam

Deleted User wrote: »

I don’t think they should- the details of the so called party consist of some socially distanced farewell speeches- they obviously lapsed a bit as the party/gathering went on and appeared in some photos massless and too close- hopefully no cases of COVID emerge from this little gathering but it wasn’t enough to push them into presenting children’s TV

In fairness I actually blame RTE management a lot more- they approved this gathering- and encouraged people to attend- they could have said, hey we’d like to mark the retirement of our colleague so why not form a socially distant line outside and cheer her on as she departs the building- that would have been sensible.

I watched a clip on the RTE news after David Mc Cullagh apologised .A mans 100th birthday was celebrated with a drive by of neighbours .He had the sense to sit on a chair at a good distance and watch them go by waving and cheering .All the village came in cars with balloons etc and I just thought the ordinary Joe Soap has his head screwed on so much tighter than RTE

Happydays2020

They should resign. And RTÉ should be sold.

Thierry12

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I watched a clip on the RTE news after David Mc Cullagh apologised .A mans 100th birthday was celebrated with a drive by of neighbours .He had the sense to sit on a chair at a good distance and watch them go by waving and cheering .All the village came in cars with balloons etc and I just thought the ordinary Joe Soap has his head screwed on so much tighter than RTE

RTE don't believe a killer virus is out there that's for sure

Anyone of a working age and healthy should follow RTE's lead and get back to meeting friends and family, have coffees, some cake etc

Its over now

Boggles

Thierry12 wrote: »

RTE don't believe a killer virus is out there that's for sure

Anyone of a working age and healthy should follow RTE's lead and get back to meeting friends and family, have coffees, some cake etc

Its over now

Because Dobbo posed for a picture?

ForestFire

I challenge anyone defending RTE and the staff that organised and took part in this event and thinks its okay and perfectly acceptable.....

.... If you or anyone else thinks this is okay.... Then you organise a party in your workplace next week..... and be sure to invite your HR and H&S safe and post pictures for us next week, ...and let's see how you get on.

funnydoggy

Darc19 wrote: »

Ah the faux outrage by the covid police.

It was a few photos

Get over it.

So RTE can do no wrong?

According to the "rules" a social gathering is not allowed indoors and if there is one, it sure as shyte doesnt allow for that many people.

None of them are working and if that capacity they acted in on the day involves taking photos then they can do that at home, it's not essential.
why do you think the politicians are in the convention centre at times spread out, they want to be seen to be AS compliant as they would like us to be.

RTE ****ed up, simple as as that. I hate finger wagging myself but I hate a pious hypocrite even more, bloody den of vipers over there in Montrose.

I will also say that the BOSS there has huge questions to answer when Tony H is saying he suspects many bosses are forcing workers to come in and do jobs that can be done at home. "the message isn't getting through, if you can work from home, do so"..Blowing up balloons, swigging champers and pulling selfies??really..essential???

Boggles

rusty cole wrote: »

I will also say that the BOSS there has huge questions to answer when Tony H is saying he suspects many bosses are forcing workers to come in and do jobs that can be done at home. "the message isn't getting through, if you can work from home, do so"..Blowing up balloons, swigging champers and pulling selfies??really..essential???

I saw a balloon.

Didn't see any alcohol or selfies.

Link?

Boggles

Boggles wrote: »

I saw a balloon.

Didn't see any alcohol or selfies.

Link?

There was a photo yesterday with a person in the back round holding a wine glass, more than one.. and a bottle on a table. it was in one of the red tops im sure..No i don't have it here in my back pocket.

if I can screen grab it i'll stick it up.

also, we have to stagger our breaks in the work canteen even just to comply..this shower took the piss. alcohol aside, you dont agree with my other points then? how myopic can you get.

really?? THE MIND Boggles at times eh!

iamwhoiam

Boggles wrote: »

I saw a balloon.

Didn't see any alcohol or selfies.

Link?

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.thesun.ie/news/6173261/rte-apologise-masks-distancing-retirement-bash-miriam-dobson/amp/

Second picture down . At least 3 balloons

Boggles

rusty cole wrote: »

There was a photo yesterday with a person in the back round holding a wine glass, more than one.. and a bottle on a table. it was in one of the red tops im sure..No i don't have it here in my back pocket.

The "red tops" are online now and they got the same photos from the same source as everyone else. i.e. online.

Should be easy enough find.

Listen I want to be suitable outraged, but I can't be at your imagination.

So were there people drinking alcohol and taking selfies or not?

Boggles

iamwhoiam wrote: »

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.thesun.ie/news/6173261/rte-apologise-masks-distancing-retirement-bash-miriam-dobson/amp/

Second picture down . At least 3 balloons

Well that changes everything.

iamwhoiam

Boggles wrote: »

Well that changes everything.

Answered your post that said you saw a balloon . Nothing more , nothing less

Boggles

Looks like a mad party TBF.

Boggles

Boggles wrote: »

The "red tops" are online now and they got the same photos from the same source as everyone else. i.e. online.

Should be easy enough find.

Listen I want to be suitable outraged, but I can't be at your imagination.

So were there people drinking alcohol and taking selfies or not?

There's a picture of the boss and a lady has what looks to be a coffee cup in here hand, blatantly rubbing our noses in it, it's so obviously VODKA.

Nope I checked the red tops, it was a different pic but relating to parties so as to draw comparisons when I'm wrong I say I'm wrong...on the drink anyway.

to all the other charges??guilty!! guilty!!!!! I'm changing my name to Maximillian Robespierre..

razorblunt

Boggles wrote: »

Looks like a mad party TBF.

You've taken one photo the others had numerous people all with arms around each other for photos. Miriam either about to or finishing a hug.
It's absolutely idiotic that not one of them thought "hold on a second" during it. It shows too how things like this start off really well as per your photo and then loosen up really quickly.

It would be a handy excuse for Dee Forbes to cut a few loose but we all know that isn't going to happen.

funnydoggy

They had their apologies written out before this even took place, I'd bet money on it.

Impromptu my ass.

Thierry12

Boggles wrote: »

Well that changes everything.

Boggles you know it was wrong and they know it was wrong

Why are you trying to defend them?

Boggles

Thierry12 wrote: »

Boggles you know it was wrong and they know it was wrong

Why are you trying to defend them?

I'm not.

I'm offering a counter weight to the hilarious fake outrage.

The narrative being painted on here is that it was drink fueled raucous party.

It clearly wasn't, but I don't think the point of this thread has anything to with what actually happened.

Personally I think George Lee should take one for the team and resign, then we can all move on.

iamwhoiam

Thierry12 wrote: »

Boggles you know it was wrong and they know it was wrong

Why are you trying to defend them?

To annoy .

Deeper Blue

How are people trying to defend this behavior??

They've lectured the public relentlessly all year and gleefully shat on Phil Hogan et al after golfgate.

They should absolutely be hauled over the coals and made to resign, just like Hogan and his pals.

funnydoggy

I'm seeing the same people outraged over other gatherings, such as golfgate, completely dismissive of this one. Why? They're both examples of absolute hypocrisy and cognisant rule breaking.

We're told to get the f*ck on with the restrictions nearly every night of the week by some of these people.

They then turn around with this with some weasel words about how they are so sorry and won't do it again.

expectationlost

the photos https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:jbHOJB8JdVUJ:https://www.superannrte.ie/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26view%3Darticle%26id%3D7548:phil-collins-retirement-photos-13-11-2020%26catid%3D31%26Itemid%3D104+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ie&client=firefox-b-d

funnydoggy

expectationlost wrote: »

the photos https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:jbHOJB8JdVUJ:https://www.superannrte.ie/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26view%3Darticle%26id%3D7548:phil-collins-retirement-photos-13-11-2020%26catid%3D31%26Itemid%3D104+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ie&client=firefox-b-d

"Impromptu"

iamwhoiam

expectationlost wrote: »

the photos https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:jbHOJB8JdVUJ:https://www.superannrte.ie/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26view%3Darticle%26id%3D7548:phil-collins-retirement-photos-13-11-2020%26catid%3D31%26Itemid%3D104+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ie&client=firefox-b-d

Impromptu my ass !

Deeper Blue

If it was impromptu does that mean her husband and two daughters work at RTE too?

Dakota Dan

drunkmonkey wrote: »

No he was never in favour of them Cillian de Gascun the same. It was Ronan Glynn brought them in while Tony was off. They don't prevent the user from getting Covid that's blatantly obvious at this stage.

He said before they were mandatory that he was out shopping one weekend and was concerned with the amount of people not wearing masks.

DebDynamite

Must be great pensions in RTE for a relatively young looking woman to be able to retire

Thierry12

DebDynamite wrote: »

Must be great pensions in RTE for a relatively young looking woman to be able to retire

Thought the same

How many people did she have arm around in those photos lol

Probably did it with everyone off camera too

They should show security footage for the day

Be some laugh then

Boggles

DebDynamite wrote: »

Must be great pensions in RTE for a relatively young looking woman to be able to retire

She looks about retirement age.

What was she a secretary for 35 years at RTE?

I imagine she will be rolling in it all right.

suicide_circus

I dont give a bollix if RTE staff or anyone else has a party but it goes to show the contempt in which they hold the plebs to whom they dish up steaming bowls of fear and paranoia every evening.

Level 42

RTE is the virus

ShineOn7

Has any heads rolled yet over this? If it hasn't happened by now I doubt it will at all

Even Phil Hogan was forced to resign, so what makes Dee Forbes different?

Boggles

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Has any heads rolled yet over this? If it hasn't happened by now I doubt it will at all

Even Phil Hogan was forced to resign, so what makes Dee Forbes different?

She wasn't at it.

Unless you think Ursula von der Leyen should be forced to resign because the bould Phil spent a night in Galway stuffing his face with pints?

ZX7R

Problem for me is rte employees did it during level 5 restrictions.
Golf gate happened in level two point something didn't it.
And people were forced to resign then.
So why not now breaking level 5 is that not worse per se