Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

facehugger99

Boggles wrote: »

You might have been, I certainly wasn't.

:rolleyes: Spot the lad whose job or business wasn't affected by the response to Covid.

I'm all right Jack.

Boggles

facehugger99 wrote: »

:rolleyes: Spot the lad whose job or business wasn't affected by the response to Covid.

I'm all right Jack.

Because I pointed out the reality that there was no lockdown for much of the summer?

Cool.

Penfailed

BeefeaterHat wrote: »

It's not a few restrictions, it's entire sectors of the economy, hundred's of thousands of jobs and billions of euro stifled. Don't undersell it.

You can sell it any which way you choose. It doesn't change the fact that we weren't locked down over the summer.

Penfailed

facehugger99 wrote: »

:rolleyes: Spot the lad whose job or business wasn't affected by the response to Covid.

I'm all right Jack.

...still not a lockdown.

BeefeaterHat

Penfailed wrote: »

...still not a lockdown.

Who decides what makes it a lockdown?

Penfailed

BeefeaterHat wrote: »

Who decides what makes it a lockdown?

In this case, me. You may think some restrictions are a lockdown. I don't. I decided.

BeefeaterHat

Penfailed wrote: »

In this case, me. You may think some restrictions are a lockdown. I don't. I decided.

Well if it's a matter of personal opinion then neither you or me can state for a fact that it was a lockdown. I merely pointed out that massive sectors of the economy we're and still are shut down or at the very least hindered by restrictions, which in my mind is as good as a lockdown

Penfailed

BeefeaterHat wrote: »

Well if it's a matter of personal opinion then neither you or me can state for a fact that it was a lockdown. I merely pointed out that massive sectors of the economy we're and still are shut down or at the very least hindered by restrictions, which in my mind is as good as a lockdown

So...not a lockdown then? Glad we've cleared that up.

To me, a full lockdown is what we had in March/April. Level five is pretty close to a lockdown. Level four is severe restrictions and so on...

BeefeaterHat

Penfailed wrote: »

So...not a lockdown then? Glad we've cleared that up.

To me, a full lockdown is what we had in March/April. Level five is pretty close to a lockdown. Level four is severe restrictions and so on...

It was a lockdown. Massive sectors of the economy were shut down. What are you missing here?

Clonmel1000

Penfailed wrote: »

That's not a lockdown. That's having a few restrictions.

A few restrictions? I often wonder are some people genuinely delighted with this **** show and what sort of sad lives they had before their beloved new normal started.

Penfailed

BeefeaterHat wrote: »

It was a lockdown. Massive sectors of the economy were shut down. What are you missing here?

Some of the economy was shut down. People weren't locked down. There's a big distinction between the two. What are you missing here?

Rrrrrr2

Boggles wrote: »

You might have been, I certainly wasn't.

But if you wanted to do any of those things you were not able to or severely restricted- that’s a lockdown for those effected. This is the kind of pedantic nonsense we are faced with sadly- people living in their own little alternate realities and self absorbed planets

Rrrrrr2

Clonmel1000 wrote: »

A few restrictions? I often wonder are some people genuinely delighted with this **** show and what sort of sad lives they had before their beloved new normal started.

Of course they are- you can sense the joy in their endless dismissals

Penfailed

Clonmel1000 wrote: »

A few restrictions? I often wonder are some people genuinely delighted with this **** show and what sort of sad lives they had before their beloved new normal started.

Not delighted at all. It severely impacted my usual outlets. No gigs, no festivals, no pubs open to play with my band in, etc., etc. The point is, we had a few restrictions (some would say severe) over the summer...but a lockdown, it was not.

Rrrrrr2

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

There is a cohort of people who only believe having the front doors of their homes welded shut is a lockdown.

Great social studies to be done after this

Doubt freedom will return fully tbh

Nor would these dystopian lunatics ever want that- these people are puritanical in approach and if they can foist their beliefs and values on others then all the better- that’s clear as day with pubs/alcohol

BeefeaterHat

Penfailed wrote: »

Some of the economy was shut down. People weren't locked down. There's a big distinction between the two. What are you missing here?

Some of the economy=20% of the workforce. Hospitality, tourism, transport and aviation have all been put to the sword, each employing tens of thousands of people and even more indirectly. I don't know why you're trying to downplay it because it goes against all reason

Ginger n Lemon

Damn. What has happened to this thread

Basically Penfailed and Boggles trying to convince us there was barely any lockdown in Ireland... clearly forgetting the part where we have a business sector that has been shut down for 9 months straight, thousands of people couldnt access cancer treatment or screening, 20% + unemployment for over 4 months of this year to name a few "restrictions"... :rolleyes:

Penfailed

BeefeaterHat wrote: »

Some of the economy=20% of the workforce. Hospitality, tourism, transport and aviation have all been put to the sword, each employing tens of thousands of people and even more indirectly. I don't know why you're trying to downplay it because it goes against all reason

I'm not trying to downplay it. I'm pointing out that you don't appear to be able to make the distinction between sections of the economy being shutdown and the nation being in lockdown. They are completely different things.

Penfailed

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Damn. What has happened to this thread

Basically Penfailed and Boggles trying to convince us there was barely any lockdown in Ireland... clearly forgetting the part where we have a business sector that has been shut down for 9 months straight, thousands of people couldnt access cancer treatment or screening, 20% + unemployment for over 4 months of this year to name a few "restrictions"... :rolleyes:

All hail the return of G'n'L to save everyone else from Boggles and I :rolleyes:

BeefeaterHat

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Damn. What has happened to this thread

Basically Penfailed and Boggles trying to convince us there was barely any lockdown in Ireland... clearly forgetting the part where we have a business sector that has been shut down for 9 months straight, thousands of people couldnt access cancer treatment or screening, 20% + unemployment for over 4 months of this year to name a few "restrictions"... :rolleyes:

The constant goalpost moving between what's a lockdown or not is like some bizarre version of the no true Scotsman fallacy with those two.

Penfailed

BeefeaterHat wrote: »

The constant goalpost moving between what's a lockdown or not is like some bizarre version of the no true Scotsman fallacy with those two.

Who's moving goalposts?

buried

Penfailed wrote: »

I'm not trying to downplay it. I'm pointing out that you don't appear to be able to make the distinction between sections of the economy being shutdown and the nation being in lockdown. They are completely different things.

Parts of the nation were completely shutdown over the summer though, Kildare was shut down over August with nobody allowed to leave the county, Same for Offaly and Laois. If you were lucky enough to be still working and got your annual summer holidays in any of those counties then your summer holiday was in a lockdown basically confined to your own gaff.

Rrrrrr2

BeefeaterHat wrote: »

Who decides what makes it a lockdown?

If “I’m alright Jack”= not a lockdown

Rrrrrr2

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Damn. What has happened to this thread

Basically Penfailed and Boggles trying to convince us there was barely any lockdown in Ireland... clearly forgetting the part where we have a business sector that has been shut down for 9 months straight, thousands of people couldnt access cancer treatment or screening, 20% + unemployment for over 4 months of this year to name a few "restrictions"... :rolleyes:

Again if it doesn’t effect them it’s not a lockdown. Let them eat cake etc

Penfailed

Rrrrrr2 wrote: »

If “I’m alright Jack”= not a lockdown

When's a lockdown not a lockdown? When it's obvious. There are levels of restrictions. The higher the level, the closer to lockdown. We haven't been in a full lockdown since March/April. That's my final word on that one. Until the next time...

Ginger n Lemon

Penfailed wrote: »

All hail the return of G'n'L to save everyone else from Boggles and I :rolleyes:

Thats your come back?

Quality has decreased dramatically

You should have at least corrected me, like you always correct others when they post "lockdown" and you say "few restrictions"... Ireland has had 20% + unemployment for 6 months this year, not 4 months. My mistake.

I know Pen, "few restrictions".

tobefrank321

The second wave in those countries who largely avoided the first wave, countries in central and eastern Europe and a few in the south such as Greece and Portugal, could end up worse than the first wave which was predominately western europe. Proximity or nearness to the centre of europe also appears to play a part. The further you are from the centre of europe the better. We're relatively lucky to be on the periphery of Europe.

bush

I'm starting to think we will go into lockdown or whatever you want to call it after Stephens day

Oxford dictionary definition of lockdown

A state of isolation or restricted access instituted as a security measure.

PTH2009

Hard to believe were living in an Ireland in where you have to get 'tickets' to go too Christmas mass

https://www.eventbrite.ie/e/midnight-christmas-eve-mass-tickets-131783318453

Penfailed

PTH2009 wrote: »

Hard to believe were living in an Ireland in where you have to get 'tickets' to go too Christmas mass

https://www.eventbrite.ie/e/midnight-christmas-eve-mass-tickets-131783318453

Hard to believe people still don't seem to realise that large gatherings should be restricted.