Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Boggles

Rrrrrr2 wrote: »

No oddly, Tony despite all the rubbish he preaches is too important to repeat his copy/paste dictats from zoom or teams. I guess the virus doesn’t effect higher powers or overweight, middle aged “health” experts.

So you wouldn't deem the CMO an essential worker?

Red Alert

MadYaker wrote: »

Belfast Agreement? Ever heard of it? That’s not an option.

Locking down the country, making it a criminal offence to be beyond 2km from your residence wasn't also an option until the current circumstances made it necessary. Things north of the border are out of control.

Dyr

MadYaker wrote: »

Belfast Agreement? Ever heard of it? That’s not an option.

We closed that border tout suite to protect the National Herd, not a peep about the Belfast Agreement from anyone


I dont really understand why people immediately try to make up excuses for the government, especially bad ones.

Rrrrrr2

MadYaker wrote: »

Hahaha. This is what we’re up against lads. What a gobsh!te

So much for “all in it together eh”?

average_runner

Rrrrrr2 wrote: »

So much for “all in it together eh”?

Obviously not with the behaviour of people in level 3.

Harry Palmr

We're going to need to new thread for Tuesday

"Tightening of Restrictions"

Gael23

Boggles wrote: »

NPHET work from home?

I guess they are regarded as essential workers

average_runner

Harry Palmr wrote: »

We're going to need to new thread for Tuesday

"Tightening of Restrictions"

I think it will be more like chained down this time

Rrrrrr2

average_runner wrote: »

Obviously not with the behaviour of people in level 3.

Burn them at the stake !

PTH2009

Todays a good day with the vaccine news but watch it will still be doom and gloom from RTE/Dr Tony and the usual suspects

Rrrrrr2

PTH2009 wrote: »

Todays a good day with the vaccine news but watch it will still be doom and gloom from RTE/Dr Tony and the usual suspects

Not a hope in hell. The hysteria will be turned up another few levels for sure

average_runner

Rrrrrr2 wrote: »

Burn them at the stake !

Nope, just lock it down

PTH2009

Rrrrrr2 wrote: »

Not a hope in hell. The hysteria will be turned up another few levels for sure

Yeah the usual tripe

'We can't let our guard down'

'Avoid meeting the vunurbale people in your life, as you could kill them before they have the chance to get the vaccine' (this was said already)

'This rollout will take time and the Hospitals need time too. There overrun as it is"

If HSE **** this up than they will be riots

Don't Chute!

PTH2009 wrote: »

Yeah the usual tripe

'We can't let our guard down'

'Avoid meeting the vunurbale people in your life, as you could kill them before they have the chance to get the vaccine' (this was said already)

'This rollout will take time and the Hospitals need time too. There overrun as it is"

If HSE **** this up than they will be riots

There won’t be riots. There SHOULD be but there won’t. The HSE will deny responsibility for anything as usual and we will all be blamed somehow.

facehugger99

average_runner wrote: »

Nope, just lock it down

Lockdowns are great if you believe the only thing which matters is Covid.

They're great if you think the only consequences of lockdowns are a reduction in transmission rates.

The long-term effects of these lockdowns have never been questioned in any meaningful way by our political, burocratic or media establishments.

There is simply nobody asking any questions about the billions we are spending and what the medium to long-term consequences are. There are no cost benefits being produced, considered or debated.

What is happening is quite simply the biggest abdication of responsibility from vote-chasing politicians I've ever witnessed.

Boggles

facehugger99 wrote: »

Lockdowns are great if you believe the only thing which matters is Covid.

They're great if you think the only consequences of lockdowns are a reduction in transmission rates.

The long-term effects of these lockdowns have never been questioned in any meaningful way by our political, burocratic or media establishments.

There is simply nobody asking any questions about the billions we are spending and what the medium to long-term consequences are. There are no cost benefits being produced, considered or debated.

What is happening is quite simply the biggest abdication of responsibility from vote-chasing politicians I've ever witnessed.

So what is your alternative plan there?

Do you think the likes of London should not be introducing tough restrictions?

Do you think their should be going for your rather untested method of pandemic control, simply ignore it?

Rrrrrr2

average_runner wrote: »

Nope, just lock it down

That appears it be the default answer alright to everything- you should be on Nphet

Paddygreen

Christmas must be canceled, it’s scary and it upsets those of us who have been holding firm. What do we want? curfews!! When do we want them?? now!!

average_runner

Rrrrrr2 wrote: »

That appears it be the default answer alright to everything- you should be on Nphet

Can you pay me their wage?

Gael23

How do we get beyond Level 1 and back to normality?

Thats me

Gael23 wrote: »

How do we get beyond Level 1 and back to normality?

With these people?

Don't Chute!

Thats me wrote: »

With these people?

What’s the problem there?

namloc1980

PTH2009 wrote: »

Yeah the usual tripe

'We can't let our guard down'

'Avoid meeting the vunurbale people in your life, as you could kill them before they have the chance to get the vaccine' (this was said already)

'This rollout will take time and the Hospitals need time too. There overrun as it is"

If HSE **** this up than they will be riots

The rollout of the vaccine on a big scale is going to take a lot longer than people think.

Thats me

Don't Chute! wrote: »

What’s the problem there?

Do you believe it is possible to prevent transmission in such places?

PTH2009

PTH2009 wrote: »

Todays a good day with the vaccine news but watch it will still be doom and gloom from RTE/Dr Tony and the usual suspects

Tony tell the public to get informed by the HSE and other reliable credible sources. He maintains that people will be misled by Anti-Vaccine campaigners with screwed up agendas. OK fair enough.

So here's an instance below where irish women were kept in the dark about information which may have extended or even saved their lives, information of the most sensitive and important nature imaginable and yet it was withheld from them and not only that, they had to take the HSE to court regarding it.
So Tony will happily chirp about anything else lest the information required ever be the truth. Ask us so you can be informed and we'll tell you what we need you to know, believe, buy etc.

https://extra.ie/2018/05/16/news/irish-news/tony-holohan-knew-of-cervical-check-memo

He has a huge credibility problem and that's the big issue with peoples opinion of him nowadays I think. You don't need to get personal to damage his already tarnished reputation, what's worse is he has the job despite this.

I also find it funny that when it suits some people in the media, they'll Hold the like of robert DeNiro on high as a beacon to ward off the Donald (Trump)..
I wonder though, with all the big celebs rolling up their sleeves, will anyone shine a light on Bobby's views about Vaccines in general??

https://www.thejournal.ie/robert-de-niro-vaccines-3242529-Feb2017/

Rrrrrr2

namloc1980 wrote: »

The rollout of the vaccine on a big scale is going to take a lot longer than people think.

If there was an actual will and drive from the useless pen pushers in Nphet and government an emergency plan would swing into immediate effect, vaccinating 24/7. Such has been the brevity and depth of restrictions over the past year nothing less should do in my opinion.
Instead more of the same arse covering and finger waving from the new normal brigade is almost we will get. And excuses as long as your arm as to why that couldn’t possibly happen

Benimar

PTH2009 wrote: »

Yeah the usual tripe

'We can't let our guard down'

'Avoid meeting the vunurbale people in your life, as you could kill them before they have the chance to get the vaccine' (this was said already)

'This rollout will take time and the Hospitals need time too. There overrun as it is"

If HSE **** this up than they will be riots

What’s tripe about any of that?

We can’t leave our guard down? Well some have already and numbers have doubled in a few days. That would suggest we should keep our guard up, no?

Don’t meet the vulnerable? Not a single person in Ireland will be fully vaccinated until mid to late January. To meet them now if you aren’t 100% sure you haven’t got COVID 19 does put them at risk.

The rollout will take time? Well, yes it will. Even in Ireland there are almost 2m people in the vulnerable category. Some people seem to think the whole world will be vaccinated by Patrick’s Day!

Rrrrrr2

Don't Chute! wrote: »

What’s the problem there?

People enjoining themselves and trying to enjoy a sliver of life- Covid no no’s I’m afraid

namloc1980

Rrrrrr2 wrote: »

If there was an actual will and drive from the useless pen pushers in Nphet and government an emergency plan would swing into immediate effect, vaccinating 24/7. Such has been the brevity and depth of restrictions over the past year nothing less should do in my opinion.
Instead more of the same arse covering and finger waving from the new normal brigade is almost we will get. And excuses as long as your arm as to why that couldn’t possibly happen

No point in having 24/7 vaccinations when we don't have the vaccine to administer. The first batch will arrive at the weekend with just 9,750 doses.

namloc1980

Benimar wrote: »

What’s tripe about any of that?

We can’t leave our guard down? Well some have already and numbers have doubled in a few days. That would suggest we should keep our guard up, no?

Don’t meet the vulnerable? Not a single person in Ireland will be fully vaccinated until mid to late January. To meet them now if you aren’t 100% sure you haven’t got COVID 19 does put them at risk.

The rollout will take time? Well, yes it will. Even in Ireland there are almost 2m people in the vulnerable category. Some people seem to think the whole world will be vaccinated by Patrick’s Day!

St Patrick's Day 2022 maybe for the Western world and many years for the rest of the planet.